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Carl St-Gelaos
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      9th Jan 2004
Hi everyone,
I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
drive in windows 2000.
I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB

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      9th Jan 2004
Tried WinUpdate?
There is a fix for large disk support.
David

"Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi everyone,
> I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
> drive in windows 2000.
> I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
> win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
> In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
>
> Thanks
> Carl St-Gelais
> (E-Mail Removed)



 
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Jisha
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      9th Jan 2004
I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a registry edit
which has to be made for drives larger than 137gb.
Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for more...

"DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Tried WinUpdate?
> There is a fix for large disk support.
> David
>
> "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi everyone,
> > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
> > drive in windows 2000.
> > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
> > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
> > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
> >
> > Thanks
> > Carl St-Gelais
> > (E-Mail Removed)

>
>



 
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DL
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      10th Jan 2004
I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I didn't
David

"Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
> My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a registry edit
> which has to be made for drives larger than 137gb.
> Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for more...
>
> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Tried WinUpdate?
> > There is a fix for large disk support.
> > David
> >
> > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
> > > drive in windows 2000.
> > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
> > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
> > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Carl St-Gelais
> > > (E-Mail Removed)

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Leonard Severt [MSFT]
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      10th Jan 2004
"DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I didn't
> David
>
> "Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
>> My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a registry
>> edit which has to be made for drives larger than 137gb.
>> Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for more...
>>
>> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Tried WinUpdate?
>> > There is a fix for large disk support.
>> > David
>> >
>> > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > Hi everyone,
>> > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
>> > > drive in windows 2000.
>> > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
>> > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
>> > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Carl St-Gelais
>> > > (E-Mail Removed)
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>
>


Its called 48 bit addressing and yes it has to be enabled in the
registry and supported by the hardware.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305098

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup Team

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DL
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      10th Jan 2004
I am using large SATA disks was that the difference?, as I didnt undertake
any reg edit, to enable them.
David

"Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns946C53A035103leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I didn't
> > David
> >
> > "Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
> >> My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a registry
> >> edit which has to be made for drives larger than 137gb.
> >> Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for more...
> >>
> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Tried WinUpdate?
> >> > There is a fix for large disk support.
> >> > David
> >> >
> >> > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > > Hi everyone,
> >> > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
> >> > > drive in windows 2000.
> >> > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
> >> > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
> >> > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks
> >> > > Carl St-Gelais
> >> > > (E-Mail Removed)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>
> Its called 48 bit addressing and yes it has to be enabled in the
> registry and supported by the hardware.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305098
>
> Leonard Severt
>
> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
>
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.



 
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Leonard Severt [MSFT]
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      11th Jan 2004
"DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:#F1x$(E-Mail Removed):

> I am using large SATA disks was that the difference?, as I didnt
> undertake any reg edit, to enable them.
> David
>
> "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns946C53A035103leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
>> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>> > I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I didn't
>> > David
>> >
>> > "Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
>> >> My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a
>> >> registry edit which has to be made for drives larger than 137gb.
>> >> Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for more...
>> >>
>> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Tried WinUpdate?
>> >> > There is a fix for large disk support.
>> >> > David
>> >> >
>> >> > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > > Hi everyone,
>> >> > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
>> >> > > drive in windows 2000.
>> >> > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
>> >> > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
>> >> > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks
>> >> > > Carl St-Gelais
>> >> > > (E-Mail Removed)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>> Its called 48 bit addressing and yes it has to be enabled in the
>> registry and supported by the hardware.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305098
>>
>> Leonard Severt
>>
>> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
>>
>> --
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.

>
>
>


There should be no difference with SATA since it is an extension of
ATAPI. I guess it is possible for 3rd party driver to do some type of
translation but I have never heard of that. If you check your registry
do you have the key? If you do and you didn't put it there then a driver
did it. Windows 2000 and XP must have that key to do 48 bit addressing
to support drives larger than 127 gig. It is basic math, with 31 bits
and max sizes on heads and cylinders there are only so many sectors
possible.

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup Team

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DL
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      11th Jan 2004
I checked my registry, there is no key, as per the kb article "to enable
48-bit LBA....."
Since I have 2*150gb sata drive in a mirror raid setup, which appear to be
functioning correctly, to their full capacity, I'm wondering if I should add
this key?
David

"Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns946D13DC52A66leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:#F1x$(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > I am using large SATA disks was that the difference?, as I didnt
> > undertake any reg edit, to enable them.
> > David
> >
> > "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:Xns946C53A035103leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed):
> >>
> >> > I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I didn't
> >> > David
> >> >
> >> > "Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
> >> >> My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a
> >> >> registry edit which has to be made for drives larger than 137gb.
> >> >> Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for more...
> >> >>
> >> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > Tried WinUpdate?
> >> >> > There is a fix for large disk support.
> >> >> > David
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > > Hi everyone,
> >> >> > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
> >> >> > > drive in windows 2000.
> >> >> > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
> >> >> > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
> >> >> > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Thanks
> >> >> > > Carl St-Gelais
> >> >> > > (E-Mail Removed)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Its called 48 bit addressing and yes it has to be enabled in the
> >> registry and supported by the hardware.
> >>
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305098
> >>
> >> Leonard Severt
> >>
> >> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
> >>
> >> --
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.

> >
> >
> >

>
> There should be no difference with SATA since it is an extension of
> ATAPI. I guess it is possible for 3rd party driver to do some type of
> translation but I have never heard of that. If you check your registry
> do you have the key? If you do and you didn't put it there then a driver
> did it. Windows 2000 and XP must have that key to do 48 bit addressing
> to support drives larger than 127 gig. It is basic math, with 31 bits
> and max sizes on heads and cylinders there are only so many sectors
> possible.
>
> Leonard Severt
>
> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
>
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.



 
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Leonard Severt [MSFT]
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      11th Jan 2004
"DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:#(E-Mail Removed):

> I checked my registry, there is no key, as per the kb article "to
> enable 48-bit LBA....."
> Since I have 2*150gb sata drive in a mirror raid setup, which appear
> to be functioning correctly, to their full capacity, I'm wondering if
> I should add this key?
> David
>
> "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns946D13DC52A66leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
>> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:#F1x$(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>> > I am using large SATA disks was that the difference?, as I didnt
>> > undertake any reg edit, to enable them.
>> > David
>> >
>> > "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> > message news:Xns946C53A035103leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
>> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> >> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>> >>
>> >> > I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I didn't
>> >> > David
>> >> >
>> >> > "Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
>> >> >> My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a
>> >> >> registry edit which has to be made for drives larger than
>> >> >> 137gb. Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for
>> >> >> more...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> > Tried WinUpdate?
>> >> >> > There is a fix for large disk support.
>> >> >> > David
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> > > Hi everyone,
>> >> >> > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
>> >> >> > > drive in windows 2000.
>> >> >> > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
>> >> >> > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
>> >> >> > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Thanks
>> >> >> > > Carl St-Gelais
>> >> >> > > (E-Mail Removed)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Its called 48 bit addressing and yes it has to be enabled in the
>> >> registry and supported by the hardware.
>> >>
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305098
>> >>
>> >> Leonard Severt
>> >>
>> >> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
>> >> no rights.
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>> There should be no difference with SATA since it is an extension of
>> ATAPI. I guess it is possible for 3rd party driver to do some type of
>> translation but I have never heard of that. If you check your
>> registry do you have the key? If you do and you didn't put it there
>> then a driver did it. Windows 2000 and XP must have that key to do 48
>> bit addressing to support drives larger than 127 gig. It is basic
>> math, with 31 bits and max sizes on heads and cylinders there are
>> only so many sectors possible.
>>
>> Leonard Severt
>>
>> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
>>
>> --
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.

>
>
>


Here is one thing I have seen only 3 weeks ago. I had a customer that
had 200 gig SATA drive. He create one partition on it. Installed Windows
2000. He then started copying data and when he got around 115 gig of
data the system crashed and wouldn't boot. He next repartitioned the
drive with a 10 gig for OS and 180 gig for data. He installed and
started copying data again and once again the system crashed. Thats when
he called to Microsoft and had a case created and I worked with him. On
his OS drive the MFT was wiped out. We recreated that partition,
installed, updated to SP4 and made the registry key change. The data on
the second partition was fine. Customer continued to copy data until he
had 160 gig of data on the 2nd partition with no problems. Conclusion
from this; when copying data and he reached the 137 gig limit which is
really a limit of the head and cylinder drive numbers those numbers
wrapped around (reseting to low numbers) causing the data copy to
overwrite the MFT at the beginning of the drive. So my answer is yes
create the key and play it safe. Of course you can copy 137 gig of data
to your drive and see what happens.

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup team.

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      11th Jan 2004
OK so I add the key but reading KB I'm not sure of exact procedure.
In regedit the Edit menu enables;
New:-
Add Key
String Value
Binary Value
DWord Value
and not Add Value as outlined in KB
David

"Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns946D5D69FA4EBleonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.43...
> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:#(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > I checked my registry, there is no key, as per the kb article "to
> > enable 48-bit LBA....."
> > Since I have 2*150gb sata drive in a mirror raid setup, which appear
> > to be functioning correctly, to their full capacity, I'm wondering if
> > I should add this key?
> > David
> >
> > "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:Xns946D13DC52A66leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> >> news:#F1x$(E-Mail Removed):
> >>
> >> > I am using large SATA disks was that the difference?, as I didnt
> >> > undertake any reg edit, to enable them.
> >> > David
> >> >
> >> > "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> >> > message news:Xns946C53A035103leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
> >> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed):
> >> >>
> >> >> > I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I didn't
> >> >> > David
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> >> I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
> >> >> >> My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a
> >> >> >> registry edit which has to be made for drives larger than
> >> >> >> 137gb. Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for
> >> >> >> more...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> >> > Tried WinUpdate?
> >> >> >> > There is a fix for large disk support.
> >> >> >> > David
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> >> > > Hi everyone,
> >> >> >> > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
> >> >> >> > > drive in windows 2000.
> >> >> >> > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
> >> >> >> > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
> >> >> >> > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Thanks
> >> >> >> > > Carl St-Gelais
> >> >> >> > > (E-Mail Removed)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Its called 48 bit addressing and yes it has to be enabled in the
> >> >> registry and supported by the hardware.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305098
> >> >>
> >> >> Leonard Severt
> >> >>
> >> >> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> >> >> no rights.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> There should be no difference with SATA since it is an extension of
> >> ATAPI. I guess it is possible for 3rd party driver to do some type of
> >> translation but I have never heard of that. If you check your
> >> registry do you have the key? If you do and you didn't put it there
> >> then a driver did it. Windows 2000 and XP must have that key to do 48
> >> bit addressing to support drives larger than 127 gig. It is basic
> >> math, with 31 bits and max sizes on heads and cylinders there are
> >> only so many sectors possible.
> >>
> >> Leonard Severt
> >>
> >> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
> >>
> >> --
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.

> >
> >
> >

>
> Here is one thing I have seen only 3 weeks ago. I had a customer that
> had 200 gig SATA drive. He create one partition on it. Installed Windows
> 2000. He then started copying data and when he got around 115 gig of
> data the system crashed and wouldn't boot. He next repartitioned the
> drive with a 10 gig for OS and 180 gig for data. He installed and
> started copying data again and once again the system crashed. Thats when
> he called to Microsoft and had a case created and I worked with him. On
> his OS drive the MFT was wiped out. We recreated that partition,
> installed, updated to SP4 and made the registry key change. The data on
> the second partition was fine. Customer continued to copy data until he
> had 160 gig of data on the 2nd partition with no problems. Conclusion
> from this; when copying data and he reached the 137 gig limit which is
> really a limit of the head and cylinder drive numbers those numbers
> wrapped around (reseting to low numbers) causing the data copy to
> overwrite the MFT at the beginning of the drive. So my answer is yes
> create the key and play it safe. Of course you can copy 137 gig of data
> to your drive and see what happens.
>
> Leonard Severt
>
> Windows 2000 Server Setup team.
>
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.



 
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