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I am trying to make a small network from a Windows XP SP2 desktop and a Dell
Inspiroin 8100 Windows XP Pro. I currently connect to the internet through a
Linksys router. When I plug in the Laptop to the router, I don't can't get
internet access. I ran the network set-up wizard and it still doesn't work.
One of the option ask you how you connect to the internet and on both I
select a gateway or router for the connection. I am just having so much
trouble trying to connect these computers to a network. I can't get the
computers to see each other and share an internet connection. Please help!!!
 
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      6th Dec 2004
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:09:04 -0800, "Luke Ulrych"
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>I am trying to make a small network from a Windows XP SP2 desktop and a Dell
>Inspiroin 8100 Windows XP Pro. I currently connect to the internet through a
>Linksys router. When I plug in the Laptop to the router, I don't can't get
>internet access. I ran the network set-up wizard and it still doesn't work.
>One of the option ask you how you connect to the internet and on both I
>select a gateway or router for the connection. I am just having so much
>trouble trying to connect these computers to a network. I can't get the
>computers to see each other and share an internet connection. Please help!!!


Luke,

If you have a Linksys NAT router, try "This computer connects thru another
computer".

Try this web page for details:
<http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/networksetupwiz.htm>

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      6th Dec 2004
Correct, I am using a Linksys router. Would I select that option for both
computers? Would this also solve the problem of the computers seeing each
other because I can't do that either.

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:09:04 -0800, "Luke Ulrych"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >I am trying to make a small network from a Windows XP SP2 desktop and a Dell
> >Inspiroin 8100 Windows XP Pro. I currently connect to the internet through a
> >Linksys router. When I plug in the Laptop to the router, I don't can't get
> >internet access. I ran the network set-up wizard and it still doesn't work.
> >One of the option ask you how you connect to the internet and on both I
> >select a gateway or router for the connection. I am just having so much
> >trouble trying to connect these computers to a network. I can't get the
> >computers to see each other and share an internet connection. Please help!!!

>
> Luke,
>
> If you have a Linksys NAT router, try "This computer connects thru another
> computer".
>
> Try this web page for details:
> <http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/networksetupwiz.htm>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
>

 
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      6th Dec 2004
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:37:12 -0800, "Luke Ulrych"
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>Correct, I am using a Linksys router. Would I select that option for both
>computers? Would this also solve the problem of the computers seeing each
>other because I can't do that either.


Luke,

A NAT router is seen as another computer (probably because the NAT router issues
DHCP addresses and configuration), and yes both computers, if you run the wizard
to configure them, need that setting. If both computers connect directly to the
router (I don't know your setup yet).

It is hella easier to do this manually. The wizard does not make this easier.
It takes maybe 5 minutes to do this using a manual configuration process.

Once you run this on both computers, they should be configured so they're
capable of file sharing, though there may be additional settings for that.

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer, after you get internet
access working.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing.

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      6th Dec 2004

Dear Luke/Chuck

With advance apologies for barging in - but I have experienced a similar
problem - that as yet, after nearly 2 months since purchase of a new laptop -
I have NOT been able to resolve.

Problem Definition:

HP pavilion (running XP Home SP1), can NOT see shared files on IBM Thinkpad
(running XP Pro SP2), and gives the error message (that everyone else has
been reporting) "\\Tlw-laptop1\tlw is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource <blah blah blah>" It then then goes
on with an even more cryptic message (is that possible?) "Not enough server
storage is available to process
this command", EVEN THOUGH it can SEE the IBM Thinkpad on the network...

I have already gone through this newsgroup and implemented a regedit
modification by adding a DWORD value of 4 for "Mixed" to the
HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters
as per suggestion of Mr. Steve Winograd - and this STILL has NOT fixed the
problem...

The configuration information is as follows:

Network/System Background:

Dial-up connection to internet - connection is shared - and works i.e. IBM
can access the HP's internet connection.

Wireless peer-to-peer connection set up. NetBios is enabled on TCP/IP on
both computers.

Using simple sharing on IBM Thinkpad running Pro, EVERYTHING is shared,
including C: drive, folders etc. (still does not work)

Domain name: "HPIBM", setup and apparently working on both systems

Observations: IBM can see and share, shared files on HP (i.e. networking
works - but only ONE WAY i.e. from IBM to HP, not the other way i.e. not from
HOME to PRO)

Therefore, I look forward to ANYONE - who can solve the apparently
infinitely complicated problem - "how to network 2 laptop computers..."


Regards,

Todd

=========ipconfig dump for HP Laptop running Windows XP HOME SP1=======



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : tlw-hp-basestat

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 54g MaxPerformance
802.11g

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-4B-57-E5-07

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-41-17-16



PPP adapter i-Com:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.3.165

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.3.165

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 212.0.145.250

212.0.145.251

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled


===========ipconfig dump for IBM ThinkPad running Windows XP Pro SP2=======



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : TLW-LAPTOP1

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mshome.net



Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IBM High Rate Wireless LAN
MiniPCI Combo Card

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-E0-89-35-36

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.113

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 06, 2004
11:09:39 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 13, 2004
11:09:39 PM



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet
Adapter (10/100)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-E2-56-D1-8A





"Chuck" wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:37:12 -0800, "Luke Ulrych"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Correct, I am using a Linksys router. Would I select that option for both
> >computers? Would this also solve the problem of the computers seeing each
> >other because I can't do that either.

>
> Luke,
>
> A NAT router is seen as another computer (probably because the NAT router issues
> DHCP addresses and configuration), and yes both computers, if you run the wizard
> to configure them, need that setting. If both computers connect directly to the
> router (I don't know your setup yet).
>
> It is hella easier to do this manually. The wizard does not make this easier.
> It takes maybe 5 minutes to do this using a manual configuration process.
>
> Once you run this on both computers, they should be configured so they're
> capable of file sharing, though there may be additional settings for that.
>
> Please provide ipconfig information for each computer, after you get internet
> access working.
> Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
> window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
> NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify
> operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
>

 
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:45:03 -0800, "Todd" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>Dear Luke/Chuck
>
>With advance apologies for barging in - but I have experienced a similar
>problem - that as yet, after nearly 2 months since purchase of a new laptop -
>I have NOT been able to resolve.


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Todd,

With all due respect to the frustration that you must be feeling, and the
similarity between your symptoms and Luke's, I still suggest that you start a
new thread, with your complete diagnosis and procedures to date.

This is to benefit both you and Luke, and to aid all the helpers here.

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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:45:03 -0800, "Todd" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>
>Dear Luke/Chuck
>
>With advance apologies for barging in - but I have experienced a similar
>problem - that as yet, after nearly 2 months since purchase of a new laptop -
>I have NOT been able to resolve.
>
>Problem Definition:
>
>HP pavilion (running XP Home SP1), can NOT see shared files on IBM Thinkpad
>(running XP Pro SP2), and gives the error message (that everyone else has
>been reporting) "\\Tlw-laptop1\tlw is not accessible. You might not have
>permission to use this network resource <blah blah blah>" It then then goes
>on with an even more cryptic message (is that possible?) "Not enough server
>storage is available to process
>this command", EVEN THOUGH it can SEE the IBM Thinkpad on the network...
>
>I have already gone through this newsgroup and implemented a regedit
>modification by adding a DWORD value of 4 for "Mixed" to the
>HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters
>as per suggestion of Mr. Steve Winograd - and this STILL has NOT fixed the
>problem...


Todd,

In spite of the fact that by answering you directly, I am encouraging thread
hijacking, which benefits nobody, I see a possible immediate diagnosis to your
problem.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=177078
<http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2000092713243506>

I don't think this is necessarily the diagnosis to Todd's problem though. If
this does not solve your problem immediately, please follow my earlier advice.

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      6th Dec 2004
Chuck,

Your suggestion cracked it - as Norton AntiVirus was running on the ThinkPad.

I increased the value of IRPStackSize (on the ThinkPad) to 23, and it works
like a charm (HP can now see Thinkpad), so a warm "thank-you" for that.

And apologies for my lack of protocol, which I have noted for next time - my
only intent was to seek assistance, which I (again) greatly appreciate.

Kind regards,
Todd

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> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:45:03 -0800, "Todd" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Dear Luke/Chuck
> >
> >With advance apologies for barging in - but I have experienced a similar
> >problem - that as yet, after nearly 2 months since purchase of a new laptop -
> >I have NOT been able to resolve.
> >
> >Problem Definition:
> >
> >HP pavilion (running XP Home SP1), can NOT see shared files on IBM Thinkpad
> >(running XP Pro SP2), and gives the error message (that everyone else has
> >been reporting) "\\Tlw-laptop1\tlw is not accessible. You might not have
> >permission to use this network resource <blah blah blah>" It then then goes
> >on with an even more cryptic message (is that possible?) "Not enough server
> >storage is available to process
> >this command", EVEN THOUGH it can SEE the IBM Thinkpad on the network...
> >
> >I have already gone through this newsgroup and implemented a regedit
> >modification by adding a DWORD value of 4 for "Mixed" to the
> >HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters
> >as per suggestion of Mr. Steve Winograd - and this STILL has NOT fixed the
> >problem...

>
> Todd,
>
> In spite of the fact that by answering you directly, I am encouraging thread
> hijacking, which benefits nobody, I see a possible immediate diagnosis to your
> problem.
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=177078
> <http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2000092713243506>
>
> I don't think this is necessarily the diagnosis to Todd's problem though. If
> this does not solve your problem immediately, please follow my earlier advice.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
>

 
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:35:05 -0800, "Todd" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Chuck,
>
>Your suggestion cracked it - as Norton AntiVirus was running on the ThinkPad.
>
>I increased the value of IRPStackSize (on the ThinkPad) to 23, and it works
>like a charm (HP can now see Thinkpad), so a warm "thank-you" for that.
>
>And apologies for my lack of protocol, which I have noted for next time - my
>only intent was to seek assistance, which I (again) greatly appreciate.
>
>Kind regards,
>Todd


Glad to help, Todd. Thanks for the update.

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