Hello...

I can't see or ping the other PC on my home network. Both are on the
same workgroup. I can't even ping my own machine. Is this a problem
with my router? I want to be able to share files and folders and use
remote desktop (both are on XP Pro) but I am stopped by this problem.

Suggestions?

Thanks,
Brian

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> I can't see or ping the other PC on my home network. Both are on the
> same workgroup. I can't even ping my own machine. Is this a problem
> with my router? I want to be able to share files and folders and use
> remote desktop (both are on XP Pro) but I am stopped by this
> problem.

Same workgroup.. doesn't matter.
File and printer sharing and Remote Desktop allowed through the software
firewalls... matters.

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Similar problem when setting up a wireless modem/router.
I'm using Zone Alarm free and had to manually configure it on each PC to
allow traffic between them.

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> Hello...
>
> I can't see or ping the other PC on my home network. Both are on the
> same workgroup. I can't even ping my own machine. Is this a problem
> with my router? I want to be able to share files and folders and use
> remote desktop (both are on XP Pro) but I am stopped by this problem.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>

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> Hello...
>
> I can't see or ping the other PC on my home network. Both are on the
> same workgroup. I can't even ping my own machine. Is this a problem
> with my router? I want to be able to share files and folders and use
> remote desktop (both are on XP Pro) but I am stopped by this problem.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
Your router is probably in perfect running order. The reality of it all is
that WinXp networking doesn't work for the average home or small office
user. Even most MVPs will agree with me here.

With all the security, firewalls and anti-virus software that comes with XP
or needs to be installed to keep it functioning, the days of home or small
office networking are basically finished. Unless that is of course you have
an onsite MVP or networking professional close at hand or willing to spend
many hours trying to configure it AND keep it functioning

It's a complicated task setting up a network with XP it was much simplier
with Win2000. A good place to start if you really want to persist is
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/category04

~~~
a.. April 25, 2002 - A Microsoft executive, Christopher Jones, testified
today that using a personal computer would turn into a confusing and
frustrating experience if antitrust sanctions were sought against Microsoft.
Hmmm... Isn't the PC experience already frustrating and confusing, thanks to
Microsoft?

I am using Windows OneCare...I will check the setting and see what
happens...I bet I will get a resounding "Duh" when it is all said and
done...thanks!
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> > I can't see or ping the other PC on my home network. Both are on the
> > same workgroup. I can't even ping my own machine. Is this a problem
> > with my router? I want to be able to share files and folders and use
> > remote desktop (both are on XP Pro) but I am stopped by this
> > problem.
>
> Same workgroup.. doesn't matter.
> File and printer sharing and Remote Desktop allowed through the software
> firewalls... matters.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Hello...
>
> I can't see or ping the other PC on my home network. Both are on the
> same workgroup. I can't even ping my own machine. Is this a problem
> with my router? I want to be able to share files and folders and use
> remote desktop (both are on XP Pro) but I am stopped by this problem.

This is most commonly caused by a misconfigured firewall. Run the
Network Setup Wizard on all computers, making sure to enable File &
Printer Sharing, and reboot. The only "gotcha" is that this will turn
on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party
firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like
Norton 2005/06) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have
third-party firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area
Network traffic as trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an
IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would
substitute your correct subnet.

If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center:

a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
accounts/passwords on all computers.

b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
Simple File Sharing enabled.

Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means
that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its
resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it
matters in your situation.

Then create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
Shared Documents folder.

If that doesn't work for you, here is an excellent network
troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna. Take the time to go through it
and it will usually pinpoint the problem area(s) -
http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

Malke
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Keith Manning wrote:

> Your router is probably in perfect running order. The reality of it
> all is that WinXp networking doesn't work for the average home or
> small office user. Even most MVPs will agree with me here.

No, they won't. Setting up a home or small business network is easily
done in less than 15 minutes or so, depending on how many machines are
involved. If you are having difficulties, you're doing something wrong.

Malke
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Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

"Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Keith Manning wrote:
>
>> Your router is probably in perfect running order. The reality of it
>> all is that WinXp networking doesn't work for the average home or
>> small office user. Even most MVPs will agree with me here.
>
> No, they won't. Setting up a home or small business network is easily
> done in less than 15 minutes or so, depending on how many machines are
> involved. If you are having difficulties, you're doing something wrong.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Be real! How many times have you connected 2 PCs together using a cross over
cable, hub or router and pressed Control Panel | Network Setup Wizard....
and it's ever worked without configuring your firewall, passwords and a
whole pile of other confusing stuff for home users?

It's easy for you to say that, you're setting up PC's and networks all day,
every day. I'm talking about the average home user, in which case the
networking wizard just doesn't work, and never has. Get real!

Keith Manning wrote:
> Be real! How many times have you connected 2 PCs together using a
> cross over cable, hub or router and pressed Control Panel | Network
> Setup Wizard.... and it's ever worked without configuring your
> firewall, passwords and a whole pile of other confusing stuff for
> home users?
> It's easy for you to say that, you're setting up PC's and networks
> all day, every day. I'm talking about the average home user, in
> which case the networking wizard just doesn't work, and never has.
> Get real!

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...p/homenet.mspx

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Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Keith Manning wrote:

> Be real! How many times have you connected 2 PCs together using a
> cross over cable, hub or router and pressed Control Panel | Network
> Setup Wizard.... and it's ever worked without configuring your
> firewall, passwords and a whole pile of other confusing stuff for home
> users?
>
> It's easy for you to say that, you're setting up PC's and networks all
> day, every day. I'm talking about the average home user, in which case
> the networking wizard just doesn't work, and never has. Get real!

Sorry Mr. Manning, I'm am being quite "real". If you are connecting two
machines together with a crossover cable and have a router involved,
that is why you are having difficulties. I know lots of regular people
who have gone to the store, purchased a wireless router, and
successfully networked their machines. I also know lots of regular
people who have called me to do it for them, for which I and my
children are grateful.

Like everything else complicated - and computers are complicated and
powerful machines - you can either take the time to learn how to use
them and prepare for a job before plunging in OR you can have someone
who does whatever it is for a living do the job for you. There is no
shame in calling a plumber to work on plumbing instead of pulling out
the Home Repair book. It is a choice. Personally, I always opt to call
the plumber.

Malke
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Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User