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On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:53:27 -0800, kevinw <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote: > > >"Chuck" wrote: > >> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:31:30 -0800, kevinw <(E-Mail Removed)> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:31:19 -0800, kevinw <(E-Mail Removed)> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Chuck >> >> > >> >> >Further info to my last reply. >> >> > >> >> >I checked each computer of the eight that are servers they are >> >> >1. KW Tablet - running XP Pro, no firewall only NAV >> >> >2. Sharon 2 - running XP Pro, no firewall only NAV >> >> >3. Vaio Portable - running XP Pro, no firewall only NAV >> >> >4. Vaiostorage - running XP Pro, no firewall only NAV >> >> >5. Wine Cellar - running XP Home, No firewall, only NAV >> >> >6. Kevins Vaio - running XP Pro - No firewall, only NAV >> >> >7. HDstorage - NSD - >> >> >8. PS 540205 - Netgear Printserver >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >I did check all the Network Services and got rid of some stuff and re-ran >> >> >browstat on KevinsVaio and Vaioportable and they have changed but still >> >> >can't see the KevinsVaio computer on any of the Network Places on any computer >> >> > >> >> >Here are the new browstats: >> >> > >> >> >For KevinsVaio: >> >> > >> >> >Status for domain HOME on transport >> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{56FC4341-2C3D-40D4-8CA4-F3F012E52D64} >> >> > Browsing is active on domain. >> >> > Master browser name is: KEVINSVAIO >> >> > Master browser is running build 2600 >> >> > 1 backup servers retrieved from master KEVINSVAIO >> >> > \\KEVINSVAIO >> >> > There are 8 servers in domain HOME on transport >> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{56FC4341-2C3D-40D4-8CA4-F3F012E52D64} >> >> > There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport >> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{56FC4341-2C3D-40D4-8CA4-F3F012E52D64} >> >> > >> >> > For Vaio Portable >> >> > >> >> >Status for domain HOME on transport >> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B344E5A1-60FC-41B2-91F8-2B3B51513865} >> >> > Browsing is active on domain. >> >> > Master browser name is: KEVINSVAIO >> >> >Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build >> >> >of browser master: 5 >> >> > Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5 >> >> > 1 backup servers retrieved from master KEVINSVAIO >> >> > \\KEVINSVAIO >> >> > There are 8 servers in domain HOME on transport >> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B344E5A1-60FC-41B2-91F8-2B3B51513865} >> >> > There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport >> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B344E5A1-60FC-41B2-91F8-2B3B51513865} >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Hope this helps? >> >> >> >> Kevin, >> >> >> >> You have 2 significant changes there. >> >> # The master browser, as reported by both computers, is now KEVINSVAIO. >> >> # Both computers have server datagrams from all 8 computers ("There are 8 >> >> servers"), and both are in the same workgroup ("There are 1 domains"). >> >> >> >> What does browstat from SHARON2 (the previous master browser) look like? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >> >> My email is AT DOT >> >> actual address pchuck mvps org. >> >> >> > >> >Chuck >> > >> >Here is the browstat report for Sharon2 >> > >> > >> > >> >Status for domain HOME on transport >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{619825E0-1F41-4B4F-832C-976CF53408AA} >> > Browsing is active on domain. >> > Master browser name is: KEVINSVAIO >> >Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build >> >of browser master: 5 >> > Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5 >> > 1 backup servers retrieved from master KEVINSVAIO >> > \\KEVINSVAIO >> > There are 7 servers in domain HOME on transport >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{619825E0-1F41-4B4F-832C-976CF53408AA} >> > There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{619825E0-1F41-4B4F-832C-976CF53408AA} >> > >> > >> >I see it says 7 servers? I ran browstat on KevinsVaio again and it also >> >shows 7 servers and I think that's becasue the KWtablet is in hibernation and >> >wireless so my bet is it goes away when that happens. >> > >> >Hope this helps? >> >> Kevin, >> >> This is the fun part. You at least appear to have eliminated the segmented >> workgroup ("There are 1 domains"). Now try and translate the 7 servers. >> Observe Network Neighborhood, which 7 computers are visible? Does that support >> the theory that KWTablet being in hibernation causes "There are 7 servers"? >> >> If you don't see all computers in NN, look at the anonymous and invisible >> settings, on all computers. One computer, of your 8, has either a firewall >> problem, or one of those settings. Read this article with an open, and >> inquisitive, mind. >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/1...isibility.html >> >> And one often overlooked question - do you have shares on all computers? With >> Windows XP, a server without shares will be invisible. >Fun? Sorry not for me. I barely understadn what's going on here. > >I really can't make much sense out fo the article syou asked me to read. > >I'm also am not sure I really have 8 server computers. Usnig TCPNP to view >what's on line the eight connections are actually 6 computers, 1 network >attached sotrage device and 1 print server. I don' think the last 2 have >firewalls at least none that I can see. > >I checked and rechecked the settings on file sharing for all the computer >and they are all set to simple file sharing and have at least one folder >shareable. > >I also ran Network Places on all the machines and unfortunately they all >can't see each other > >1 Kevins Vaio - sees everybody >2 Sharon 2 - see but KevinVaio >3 VaioNotebook - sees eveybody but KevinsVaio >4 Wine Cellar - sees eveybody but KevinsVaio >5 KW Tablet - sees eveybody but KevinsVaio >6 Vaio Storage Room - sees eveybody but KevinsVaio, Sharon2, and >VaioNotebook > >The browstat is now identical in all of the computers and looks like this: > > >Status for domain HOME on transport >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{56FC4341-2C3D-40D4-8CA4-F3F012E52D64} > Browsing is active on domain. > Master browser name is: SHARON2 >Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build >of browser master: 5 > \\\\SHARON2 . Version:05.01 Flags: 71203 NT POTENTIAL BACKUP >MASTER > 3 backup servers retrieved from master SHARON2 > \\SHARON2 > \\VAIOPORTABLE > \\KEVINSVAIO > There are 8 servers in domain HOME on transport >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{56FC4341-2C3D-40D4-8CA4-F3F012E52D64} > There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{56FC4341-2C3D-40D4-8CA4-F3F012E52D64} > >I've rechecked and there ar eno fire walls of any kind on any computer. > >But....I have no idea where I am at. > >I have no idea what to try next. I have no idea why the computers all see >each other in Network Places except KevinsVaio. Exception VaioStorage Room >not seeing KevinsVaio, Sharon2 and VaioNotebook. > >Sorry I really don't know a lot or how to fix it at this point. Got any ideas OK, stay cool. I use words like fun, because my momma taught me not to say stuff like %^&*ing ^&**@hit and other words.  Now, the term server is anything sharing resources on the LAN. To Windows Networking, and computer running Windows (with the server service running), the NAS, and the print server, are all servers. Servers are what get listed by the browser in Network Neighborhood. This, below, is a good start. Is it consistent - that is, if you restart any of the computers, does it stay the same? If this EVER changes, when we make any change, I will need to know this. >1 Kevins Vaio - sees everybody >2 Sharon 2 - see but KevinVaio >3 VaioNotebook - sees eveybody but KevinsVaio >4 Wine Cellar - sees eveybody but KevinsVaio >5 KW Tablet - sees eveybody but KevinsVaio >6 Vaio Storage Room - sees eveybody but KevinsVaio, Sharon2, and >VaioNotebook Next, the key bit of information in browstat is this: > Master browser name is: SHARON2 Are you certain that SHARON2 is the MB reported by each computer? Finally, let's start this phase of the investigation with an inventory of Operating System and status of each computer when browstat was run, and when you looked at Network Neighborhood. Please list (to your best ability, or "unknown" if you don't know), for each computer: # Operating System name, edition (if XP, Home, Pro, MCE?), if XP Pro or MCE, is Simple File Sharing enabled or disabled? # When you ran browstat, was SHARON2 logged in? # When you look in Network Neighborhood (and see or don't see another computer), was that other computer online? Was the other computer logged in? -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. |
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