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ANTant@zimage.com
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      16th Oct 2003
Hi.

Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
ATI's driver and MMC.

When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
(video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.

Thank you in advance.
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      16th Oct 2003
How about changing the CPU usage in the MMC software. If you go to the TV
app setup, re-run the initialization wizard. Just keep hitting "next" until
you get to the screen with the Temporary File Settings., the window title is
"TV-On-Demand Initialization Wizard".

At the bottom of this screen is an ADVANCED button. Click this and set the
CPU load to HIGH, also try moving the Video Performance and Image Quality
sliders to midway. This may help things a little, but it probably still is
not a great idea to do anything else while recording.

Also, what type of files are you recording to? That may also make a
difference, especially with the slower hard drives you are using. UDMA2 is
not really fast when it comes to digital video.

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> Hi.
>
> Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
> when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
> have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
> and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
> ATI's driver and MMC.
>
> When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
> (video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
> recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
> multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
> Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.
>
> Thank you in advance.
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      16th Oct 2003
Guess Who <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> How about changing the CPU usage in the MMC software. If you go to the TV
> app setup, re-run the initialization wizard. Just keep hitting "next" until
> you get to the screen with the Temporary File Settings., the window title is
> "TV-On-Demand Initialization Wizard".


> At the bottom of this screen is an ADVANCED button. Click this and set the
> CPU load to HIGH, also try moving the Video Performance and Image Quality
> sliders to midway. This may help things a little, but it probably still is
> not a great idea to do anything else while recording.


I will try that. I belive I did set CPU load to high, but I don't remember.
Are you able to record smoothly during high CPU usage?


> Also, what type of files are you recording to? That may also make a
> difference, especially with the slower hard drives you are using. UDMA2 is
> not really fast when it comes to digital video.


I am recording to ATI VCR files with closed captioning.


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> newsLCcnWpAdIMk2ROiU-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi.
> >
> > Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
> > when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
> > have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
> > and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
> > ATI's driver and MMC.
> >
> > When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
> > (video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
> > recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
> > multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
> > Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.

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      17th Oct 2003
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> Guess Who <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > How about changing the CPU usage in the MMC software. If you go to the TV
> > app setup, re-run the initialization wizard. Just keep hitting "next" until
> > you get to the screen with the Temporary File Settings., the window title is
> > "TV-On-Demand Initialization Wizard".


> > At the bottom of this screen is an ADVANCED button. Click this and set the
> > CPU load to HIGH, also try moving the Video Performance and Image Quality
> > sliders to midway. This may help things a little, but it probably still is
> > not a great idea to do anything else while recording.


> I will try that. I belive I did set CPU load to high, but I don't remember.
> Are you able to record smoothly during high CPU usage?


I forgot to note that using Good quality (default preset) shows 50%+ CPU usage
in Windows' task manager. Is that normal? I still want high quality video.


> > Also, what type of files are you recording to? That may also make a
> > difference, especially with the slower hard drives you are using. UDMA2 is
> > not really fast when it comes to digital video.


> I am recording to ATI VCR files with closed captioning.



> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > newsLCcnWpAdIMk2ROiU-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
> > > when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
> > > have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
> > > and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
> > > ATI's driver and MMC.
> > >
> > > When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
> > > (video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
> > > recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
> > > multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
> > > Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.

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      17th Oct 2003
If you don't want to drop frames, you have to dedicate the computer to
capturing and not use it to do other tasks, especially those that
generate lots of interrupts, .e.g, modem over serial port.

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:11:53 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Hi.
>
>Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
>when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
>have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
>and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
>ATI's driver and MMC.
>
>When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
>(video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
>recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
>multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
>Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.
>
>Thank you in advance.


 
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ANTant@zimage.com
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      17th Oct 2003
Hmm, that stinks. That means getting a faster system wouldn't help much.
Thanks for replying.


Andy <1@2.7> wrote:
> If you don't want to drop frames, you have to dedicate the computer to
> capturing and not use it to do other tasks, especially those that
> generate lots of interrupts, .e.g, modem over serial port.


> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:11:53 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:


> >Hi.
> >
> >Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
> >when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
> >have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
> >and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
> >ATI's driver and MMC.
> >
> >When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
> >(video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
> >recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
> >multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
> >Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.
> >
> >Thank you in advance.

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      18th Oct 2003
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:11:53 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Hi.
>
>Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
>when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
>have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
>and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
>ATI's driver and MMC.
>
>When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
>(video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
>recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
>multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
>Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.
>
>Thank you in advance.


first cause is the hard drives , and having DMA on, some chipsets and the DMA
drivers are problematic. try tuning all components to optimum
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      18th Oct 2003
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> >Hi.
> >
> >Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
> >when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
> >have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
> >and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
> >ATI's driver and MMC.
> >
> >When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
> >(video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
> >recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
> >multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
> >Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.
> >
> >Thank you in advance.


> first cause is the hard drives , and having DMA on, some chipsets and the DMA
> drivers are problematic. try tuning all components to optimum


How do I tune all to optimum? I thought they were optimum already. I
have Hyperion 4in1 driver, all updates, latest BIOS, etc.
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      19th Oct 2003
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:39:48 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

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>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:11:53 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

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>> >Hi.
>> >
>> >Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
>> >when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
>> >have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
>> >and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
>> >ATI's driver and MMC.
>> >
>> >When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
>> >(video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
>> >recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
>> >multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
>> >Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.
>> >
>> >Thank you in advance.

>
>> first cause is the hard drives , and having DMA on, some chipsets and the DMA
>> drivers are problematic. try tuning all components to optimum

>
>How do I tune all to optimum? I thought they were optimum already. I
>have Hyperion 4in1 driver, all updates, latest BIOS, etc.


have you checked in the system icon to see if your IDE controller in on UDMA?

is you hard drive defragged so it has a linear path when writting?

how much memory do you have? how is the harddrive buffers set up?

I'm using a RAID 0 with 3 harddrives hooked up to a Rocketraid 404 and do all
my captures to it, also have the main drive well defragged
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      19th Oct 2003
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> >> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:11:53 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

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> >> >Hi.
> >> >
> >> >Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
> >> >when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
> >> >have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
> >> >and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
> >> >ATI's driver and MMC.
> >> >
> >> >When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
> >> >(video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
> >> >recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
> >> >multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
> >> >Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.
> >> >
> >> >Thank you in advance.

> >
> >> first cause is the hard drives , and having DMA on, some chipsets and the DMA
> >> drivers are problematic. try tuning all components to optimum

> >
> >How do I tune all to optimum? I thought they were optimum already. I
> >have Hyperion 4in1 driver, all updates, latest BIOS, etc.


> have you checked in the system icon to see if your IDE controller in on UDMA?


Yep. Primary IDE Channel Properties: UDMA Mode 4 and UDMA Mode 2.
Secondary IDE Channel Properties: UDMA Mode 2 and Multi-Word DMA Mode 2
However, I forgot to mention that the HDD that gets recordings are not
the ones above. It is on the new Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus ST3120026A 120
GB (8 MB cache; 7200 RPM) HDD. According to Promise BIOS, it said UDMA 5.


> is you hard drive defragged so it has a linear path when writting?


Yep! I think the last time I defrag this HDD was two weeks ago. Do I need
to do it often? If so, then how often?


> how much memory do you have? how is the harddrive buffers set up?


See above for RAM (1 GB). How do I check HDD buffer setups?


> I'm using a RAID 0 with 3 harddrives hooked up to a Rocketraid 404 and do all
> my captures to it, also have the main drive well defragged


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