Win XP Pro Dell PC - Am having HD problem so disconnected from network to
troubleshoot. Can't log on unless PC is connected to the network. I've tried
SAFE MODE and can't get on that way.

Does anyone know how to get past the log on screen w/o connecting the PC to
the network?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
KenP
Merry Christmas

"KenP" <(E-Mail Removed)> said this in news item
news0DEE62F-5963-4AD3-8188-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Win XP Pro Dell PC - Am having HD problem so disconnected from network to
> troubleshoot. Can't log on unless PC is connected to the network. I've
> tried
> SAFE MODE and can't get on that way.
>
> Does anyone know how to get past the log on screen w/o connecting the PC
> to
> the network?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> KenP
> Merry Christmas

What actually happens when you try to log on?

perhaps, you might try an
old trick but it is not a
guarantee.

as you boot the o.s.
hold down the right shift
key and don't release until
you see the first icon on the
desktop.

it may take up to five minutes
to get to the desktop.

------

what the shift key method will
do is to prevent third party drivers
from loading with the desktop.

perhaps, the above may not help
but wouldn't hurt.



DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- @Hotmail.com
- nntp Postologist
~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>

"KenP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news0DEE62F-5963-4AD3-8188-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Win XP Pro Dell PC - Am having HD problem so disconnected from network to
> troubleshoot. Can't log on unless PC is connected to the network. I've
> tried
> SAFE MODE and can't get on that way.
>
> Does anyone know how to get past the log on screen w/o connecting the PC
> to
> the network?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> KenP
> Merry Christmas

"db" <(E-Mail Removed)> said this in news item
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> perhaps, you might try an
> old trick but it is not a
> guarantee.
>
> as you boot the o.s.
> hold down the right shift
> key and don't release until
> you see the first icon on the
> desktop.
>
> it may take up to five minutes
> to get to the desktop.
>
> ------
>
> what the shift key method will
> do is to prevent third party drivers
> from loading with the desktop.
>
> perhaps, the above may not help
> but wouldn't hurt.
>
>
>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> - Systems Analyst
> - Database Developer
> - Accountancy
> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
> - @Hotmail.com
> - nntp Postologist
> ~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen

Holding down the Shift key during the logon phase will prevent an automatic
logon. It will *not* prevent any drivers from being loaded. The OP probably
does not need to play around with drivers anyway. If he wanted to prevent
them from loading then he should boot into Safe Mode.

I get error " the sys could not log you on" check uname/pword and domain."
All are correct cause if I hook to network I have no problem. I can't even
log on to the PC using PC domain/workgroup instead of the domain.

I tried holding SHIFT key down and still get Log On screen.

"Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:

>
>
> "KenP" <(E-Mail Removed)> said this in news item
> news0DEE62F-5963-4AD3-8188-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Win XP Pro Dell PC - Am having HD problem so disconnected from network to
> > troubleshoot. Can't log on unless PC is connected to the network. I've
> > tried
> > SAFE MODE and can't get on that way.
> >
> > Does anyone know how to get past the log on screen w/o connecting the PC
> > to
> > the network?
> >
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> > KenP
> > Merry Christmas
>
> What actually happens when you try to log on?
>
> .
>

Holding down left or rite SHIFT key didn't change anything. I still get Log
On screen. Thanks.

"db" wrote:

> perhaps, you might try an
> old trick but it is not a
> guarantee.
>
> as you boot the o.s.
> hold down the right shift
> key and don't release until
> you see the first icon on the
> desktop.
>
> it may take up to five minutes
> to get to the desktop.
>
> ------
>
> what the shift key method will
> do is to prevent third party drivers
> from loading with the desktop.
>
> perhaps, the above may not help
> but wouldn't hurt.
>
>
>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> - Systems Analyst
> - Database Developer
> - Accountancy
> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
> - @Hotmail.com
> - nntp Postologist
> ~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
>
> "KenP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news0DEE62F-5963-4AD3-8188-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Win XP Pro Dell PC - Am having HD problem so disconnected from network to
> > troubleshoot. Can't log on unless PC is connected to the network. I've
> > tried
> > SAFE MODE and can't get on that way.
> >
> > Does anyone know how to get past the log on screen w/o connecting the PC
> > to
> > the network?
> >
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> > KenP
> > Merry Christmas
>
> .
>

Holding down the Shift key will always get you to the logon screen. This is
the way it's designed.

It is now becoming clear that your PC is normally connected to some domain.
If so then the logon panel gives you an option of getting validated by your
domain or locally. If this option is not visible then pressing the "More"
button will make it visible.

If pressing the "More" button does not show you the domain logon then I
suspect that you disjoined your machine from the domain via the Control
Panel. If so then you must use a local account/password. Your network
administrator will give it to you. While it is possible to bang your way
through and erase the existing local password, you might be doing yourself a
disservice. Not only will your popularity rating with your network
administrators drop sharply but you may have a rare time accessing your
files and using your various programs.



"KenP" <(E-Mail Removed)> said this in news item
news:280A8D5E-3FB0-49B7-AA62-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I get error " the sys could not log you on" check uname/pword and domain."
> All are correct cause if I hook to network I have no problem. I can't even
> log on to the PC using PC domain/workgroup instead of the domain.
>
> I tried holding SHIFT key down and still get Log On screen.
>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "KenP" <(E-Mail Removed)> said this in news item
>> news0DEE62F-5963-4AD3-8188-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Win XP Pro Dell PC - Am having HD problem so disconnected from network
>> > to
>> > troubleshoot. Can't log on unless PC is connected to the network. I've
>> > tried
>> > SAFE MODE and can't get on that way.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how to get past the log on screen w/o connecting the
>> > PC
>> > to
>> > the network?
>> >
>> > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>> > KenP
>> > Merry Christmas
>>
>> What actually happens when you try to log on?
>>
>> .
>>

Thanks to all. I'll just hook back to network, run diags on hd and replace it
from there. The little r/w arm is banging around so I'm gonna have to reload
O/S and apps.

"Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:

>
>
> "db" <(E-Mail Removed)> said this in news item
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > perhaps, you might try an
> > old trick but it is not a
> > guarantee.
> >
> > as you boot the o.s.
> > hold down the right shift
> > key and don't release until
> > you see the first icon on the
> > desktop.
> >
> > it may take up to five minutes
> > to get to the desktop.
> >
> > ------
> >
> > what the shift key method will
> > do is to prevent third party drivers
> > from loading with the desktop.
> >
> > perhaps, the above may not help
> > but wouldn't hurt.
> >
> >
> >
> > DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> > - Systems Analyst
> > - Database Developer
> > - Accountancy
> > - Veteran of the Armed Forces
> > - @Hotmail.com
> > - nntp Postologist
> > ~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen
>
> Holding down the Shift key during the logon phase will prevent an automatic
> logon. It will *not* prevent any drivers from being loaded. The OP probably
> does not need to play around with drivers anyway. If he wanted to prevent
> them from loading then he should boot into Safe Mode.
>
> .
>

On Dec 24, 8:24*am, KenP <K...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all. I'll just hook back to network, run diags on hd and replace it
> from there. The little r/w arm is banging around so I'm gonna have to reload
> O/S and apps.
>
>


That stupid r/w arm and it's banging around.

Those silly HD problems, not being able to get on in Safe Mode and
that check uname/pword.

It's an outrage.