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      12th Sep 2006
hey guys, i recently had to get my computer reformatted, and as such i lost
the network settings that i had been running for some time, i always used my
older computer as a server (its technically not a server, but it holds all my
files), and form this computer i would run all those files. However since i
had this computer reformatted i can't access the server from this machine, i
can see it but it tells be i do not have permission to access it. i have set
permissions to allow everybody on the network full control, but i still get
the same error about permissions, however i can access this computer from the
server problem free, but its very inconvenient to transfer and view files
like that. can anybody help me here?
 
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      12th Sep 2006
Raven wrote:

> hey guys, i recently had to get my computer reformatted, and as such i
> lost the network settings that i had been running for some time, i
> always used my older computer as a server (its technically not a
> server, but it holds all my files), and form this computer i would run
> all those files. However since i had this computer reformatted i can't
> access the server from this machine, i can see it but it tells be i do
> not have permission to access it. i have set permissions to allow
> everybody on the network full control, but i still get the same error
> about permissions, however i can access this computer from the server
> problem free, but its very inconvenient to transfer and view files
> like that. can anybody help me here?


This is most commonly caused by a misconfigured firewall. Run the
Network Setup Wizard on both computers, making sure to enable File &
Printer Sharing, and reboot. The only "gotcha" is that this will turn
on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party
firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like
Norton 2005/06) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have
third-party firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area
Network traffic as trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an
IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would
substitute your correct subnet.

If one or more of the computers is XP Pro:

a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
accounts/passwords on all computers.

b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
Simple File Sharing enabled.

Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means
that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its
resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it
matters in your situation.

Then create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
Shared Documents folder.

If that doesn't work for you, here is an excellent network
troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna. Take the time to go through it
and it will usually pinpoint the problem area(s) -
http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

Malke
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      12th Sep 2006
Yes, more than likely it is the firewall.
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"Malke" wrote:

> Raven wrote:
>
> > hey guys, i recently had to get my computer reformatted, and as such i
> > lost the network settings that i had been running for some time, i
> > always used my older computer as a server (its technically not a
> > server, but it holds all my files), and form this computer i would run
> > all those files. However since i had this computer reformatted i can't
> > access the server from this machine, i can see it but it tells be i do
> > not have permission to access it. i have set permissions to allow
> > everybody on the network full control, but i still get the same error
> > about permissions, however i can access this computer from the server
> > problem free, but its very inconvenient to transfer and view files
> > like that. can anybody help me here?

>
> This is most commonly caused by a misconfigured firewall. Run the
> Network Setup Wizard on both computers, making sure to enable File &
> Printer Sharing, and reboot. The only "gotcha" is that this will turn
> on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party
> firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like
> Norton 2005/06) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have
> third-party firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area
> Network traffic as trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an
> IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would
> substitute your correct subnet.
>
> If one or more of the computers is XP Pro:
>
> a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
> Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
> accounts/passwords on all computers.
>
> b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
> Simple File Sharing enabled.
>
> Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means
> that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its
> resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it
> matters in your situation.
>
> Then create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
> home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
> folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
> Shared Documents folder.
>
> If that doesn't work for you, here is an excellent network
> troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna. Take the time to go through it
> and it will usually pinpoint the problem area(s) -
> http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

 
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      12th Sep 2006


"jmwills" wrote:

> Yes, more than likely it is the firewall.
> --
> MCP (2K) Net+, A+
> Server-Networking MVP
>
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
> > Raven wrote:
> >
> > > hey guys, i recently had to get my computer reformatted, and as such i
> > > lost the network settings that i had been running for some time, i
> > > always used my older computer as a server (its technically not a
> > > server, but it holds all my files), and form this computer i would run
> > > all those files. However since i had this computer reformatted i can't
> > > access the server from this machine, i can see it but it tells be i do
> > > not have permission to access it. i have set permissions to allow
> > > everybody on the network full control, but i still get the same error
> > > about permissions, however i can access this computer from the server
> > > problem free, but its very inconvenient to transfer and view files
> > > like that. can anybody help me here?

> >
> > This is most commonly caused by a misconfigured firewall. Run the
> > Network Setup Wizard on both computers, making sure to enable File &
> > Printer Sharing, and reboot. The only "gotcha" is that this will turn
> > on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party
> > firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like
> > Norton 2005/06) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have
> > third-party firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area
> > Network traffic as trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an
> > IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would
> > substitute your correct subnet.
> >
> > If one or more of the computers is XP Pro:
> >
> > a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
> > Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
> > accounts/passwords on all computers.
> >
> > b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
> > Simple File Sharing enabled.
> >
> > Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means
> > that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its
> > resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it
> > matters in your situation.
> >
> > Then create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
> > home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
> > folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
> > Shared Documents folder.
> >
> > If that doesn't work for you, here is an excellent network
> > troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna. Take the time to go through it
> > and it will usually pinpoint the problem area(s) -
> > http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm
> >
> > Malke
> > --
> > Elephant Boy Computers
> > www.elephantboycomputers.com
> > "Don't Panic!"
> > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >


thanks guys i got it sorted, i needed to enable simple file sharing then run
the setup wizard again. much appreciated, this will save alot of trouble for
me
 
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