I've got a system that hasn't been checking for windows updates for
probably the better part of a year.

I'm performing a custom (not express) WU session and I'm not getting a
list of updates. Instead, Micro$oft wants me to first download and run
WGA before it lets me get deeper into WU.

I don't want to install WGA. What are my options?

Is there some registry setting, or delete a file, or obtain and place a
file, so that MS thinkgs I've already got the WGA it wants me to have,
so that I can proceed to the update list without actually running the
WGA it wants me to have?

Any posts asking why I don't want to run WGA will be ignored - or will
quite likely receive verbal abuse in any subsequent reply (if I choose
to reply).

the chutzpah needed to ask in a microsoft hosted group how to bypass their
(royal pronoun type) protection efforts makes me wish I knew the answer.
Brilliant
I enjoy the question
but can be of no use in it.


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"XP Guy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've got a system that hasn't been checking for windows updates for
> probably the better part of a year.
>
> I'm performing a custom (not express) WU session and I'm not getting a
> list of updates. Instead, Micro$oft wants me to first download and run
> WGA before it lets me get deeper into WU.
>
> I don't want to install WGA. What are my options?
>
> Is there some registry setting, or delete a file, or obtain and place a
> file, so that MS thinkgs I've already got the WGA it wants me to have,
> so that I can proceed to the update list without actually running the
> WGA it wants me to have?
>
> Any posts asking why I don't want to run WGA will be ignored - or will
> quite likely receive verbal abuse in any subsequent reply (if I choose
> to reply).

Windows Genuine Advantage validation is required to use Microsoft
Update. Many people confuse this with the WGA "Notifications". A
Validation is a one time, singular event. Notifications is a Nag/Notify
update that will monitor a system for a valid Product Key. Unless
you validate Microsoft Update won't allow a PC to obtain updates.

If no WGA_ is acceptable to you, all XP updates/hotfixes are available
from the Microsoft Download Center:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/default.aspx
*Just use the A-Z options and select "X"
Last time I used the Download Center I don't believe it required any
form of validation to obtain the downloads.

"XP Guy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've got a system that hasn't been checking for windows updates for
> probably the better part of a year.
>
> I'm performing a custom (not express) WU session and I'm not getting a
> list of updates. Instead, Micro$oft wants me to first download and run
> WGA before it lets me get deeper into WU.
>
> I don't want to install WGA. What are my options?
>
> Is there some registry setting, or delete a file, or obtain and place a
> file, so that MS thinkgs I've already got the WGA it wants me to have,
> so that I can proceed to the update list without actually running the
> WGA it wants me to have?
>
> Any posts asking why I don't want to run WGA will be ignored - or will
> quite likely receive verbal abuse in any subsequent reply (if I choose
> to reply).

XP Guy wrote:
> I've got a system that hasn't been checking for windows updates for
> probably the better part of a year.
>
> I'm performing a custom (not express) WU session and I'm not getting a
> list of updates. Instead, Micro$oft wants me to first download and run
> WGA before it lets me get deeper into WU.
>
> I don't want to install WGA. What are my options?
>

Either install WGA or go without the updates, obviously.

(and please disconnect that unprotected computer from the Internet
until you do have all of the updates installed. We don't need yet
another zombie machine out there.)


> Is there some registry setting, or delete a file, or obtain and place a
> file, so that MS thinkgs I've already got the WGA it wants me to have,
> so that I can proceed to the update list without actually running the
> WGA it wants me to have?
>
> Any posts asking why I don't want to run WGA will be ignored - or will
> quite likely receive verbal abuse in any subsequent reply (if I choose
> to reply).

Just as will be any further requests for assistance from an inept,
wannabe pirate.


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Top Poaster "R. McCarty" wrote:

> > Is there some registry setting, or delete a file, or obtain and
> > place a file, so that MS thinkgs I've already got the WGA it
> > wants me to have, so that I can proceed to the update list
> > without actually running the WGA it wants me to have?

> Windows Genuine Advantage validation is required to use Microsoft
> Update.

I've got a second system that I've twice refused the WGA update (last
fall, and again a week ago) when I saw the update being offered during
the custom WU session.

The issue was triggered in the first system, I think, because WU first
said I had to install some new WU software (not WGA) in order to
properly access or interact with the WU site.

> Unless you validate Microsoft Update won't allow a PC to obtain
> updates.

Both systems were validate when XP was first installed on them. Neither
system has ever flashed the "your system is running a counterfiet
version of Windows" message or been in the nag state.

> If no WGA_ is acceptable to you, all XP updates/hotfixes are
> available from the Microsoft Download Center:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/default.aspx

Thanks. I'll try it.

In looking for other solutions, I came across this:

------------------
Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text
to the address bar and press enter:

javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')

It turns off the trigger for the key check.
-----------------

That little nugget of information dates back to 2005. Don't know if
still works, but I'll try it at some point.

Anyone know if it still works (or if it ever worked) ?

I know the WGA can be downloaded separately
(WindowsXP-KB905474-ENU-x86.exe) and I can unpack the internal files and
place them on the system where appropriate, but I don't know how to
modify the system (registry or other) to make it appear to WU that WGA
had run and had validated the system.

XP Guy wrote:
> I've got a system that hasn't been checking for windows updates for
> probably the better part of a year.

Stupid thing to allow to happen since you aren't getting the updates via
any other means.

>
> I'm performing a custom (not express) WU session and I'm not getting a
> list of updates. Instead, Micro$oft wants me to first download and
> run WGA before it lets me get deeper into WU.

It's their servers, their software, their game. If you want to play,
you play by their rules.
>
> I don't want to install WGA. What are my options?

Your options are to go without the updates, or, not get any updates, or,
forego updates. Pirated software is like that; what you see is what you
got.
>
> Is there some registry setting, or delete a file, or obtain and place
> a file, so that MS thinkgs I've already got the WGA it wants me to
> have, so that I can proceed to the update list without actually
> running the WGA it wants me to have?

No registry setting. No way to fool WGA. It's their software, their
updates, and their game. You have to play the gaem.
>
> Any posts asking why I don't want to run WGA will be ignored - or will
> quite likely receive verbal abuse in any subsequent reply (if I choose
> to reply).

Why don't you want to run WGA?

Pirates, kiddies and thieves don't get much help here as a rule.
Regardless of any answer you might give, it's very obvious you want to
cheat or you would explain your circumstance. You would have to look up
at even a spammer or a troll.

Go buy an OS.

Flame away; I won't be reading anything further from you.

****head Twayne wrote:

> > I don't want to install WGA. What are my options?
>
> Your options are to go without the updates, or, not get any updates,
> or, forego updates.

You forgot to mention I could download them manually.

Did you forget to mention it, or you just didn't know?

> Pirated software is like that; what you see is what you got.

Why are you being such a dickhead?

Do you enjoy sucking Steve Balmer's cock?

What makes you think my install is hacked?

What if I don't like the idea of a royal ****-up on Microsoft's end that
renders my machine useless?

Or do you think that Microsoft never ****s up?

I guess a few hundred security patches and critical updates for XP is
not really a good indication that they never **** up.

> No registry setting. No way to fool WGA. It's their software,
> their updates, and their game. You have to play the gaem.

No I don't fool. I can download the updates manually. Does that ****
you off?

> Why don't you want to run WGA?

After you finish sucking Steve Balmer's dick I'll tell you.

> Go buy an OS.

What kind of cave do you live in, you little troll?

Maybe you like spyware and Big-Brother-ware, but some of us don't.

> Flame away; I won't be reading anything further from you.

Yes you will. You won't be able to resist.

Now get back on your knees and finish with Steve.

XP Guy wrote:

> I've got a system that hasn't been checking for windows updates for
> probably the better part of a year.
>
> I'm performing a custom (not express) WU session and I'm not getting a
> list of updates. Instead, Micro$oft wants me to first download and run
> WGA before it lets me get deeper into WU.
>
> I don't want to install WGA. What are my options?
>
> Is there some registry setting, or delete a file, or obtain and place a
> file, so that MS thinkgs I've already got the WGA it wants me to have,
> so that I can proceed to the update list without actually running the
> WGA it wants me to have?
>
> Any posts asking why I don't want to run WGA will be ignored - or will
> quite likely receive verbal abuse in any subsequent reply (if I choose
> to reply).


NOTE: The following newsgroups were removed from my reply since they
unrelated to the topic of this discussion:
- microsoft.public.internetexplorer.security
- microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin


As I recall, Microsoft said that they will continue to offer critical
security updates even to pirated copies of Windows. So those shouldn't
require a new version of WGA. If you are getting the WGA ActiveX
download prompt before you even get to see the list of updates, use
their catalog. There is a link there to go search their catalog to get
at the downloads. On the Windows Update home page, click "Use
administrator options" and click on the link to their update catalog.
However, individual downloads may require an authentication check.

What they are offering is an ActiveX control used to regulate who gets
their non-security updates. That includes updates that affect
functionality. You don't get new program features or changes unless you
authenticate that you have a legitimate copy of Windows. Microsoft is a
business and as such they are not interested in working free for pirates
or thieves. No company is unless it makes them money. That AX control
is only used when using the Windows Update site. It is not the same as
the WGA Logon event program used to check if you have a legit copy and
only if online at the time (which you can disable using a software
restriction policy).

If you don't want to prove you have a legitimate license for Windows,
why would you even expect them to offer updates to you? It's their
product, it's their updates, it's their work, so they obviously can
choose just who gets their updates. If you don't agree then don't get
their updates.

When you go to a theme park, do you expect them to just let you wander
on in without you proving that you paid to use their facilities?

XP Guy wrote:

> ****head ...
> ... dickhead?
> ... sucking Steve Balmer's cock?
> ... royal ****-up ...
> ... ****s up?
> ... never **** up.
> ... **** you off?
> ... sucking Steve Balmer's dick ...
> ... you little troll?
> Now get back on your knees and finish with Steve.

NOTE: The following newsgroups were removed from my reply since they
unrelated to the topic of the *original* discussion:
- microsoft.public.internetexplorer.security
- microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
NOTE: XP Guy has guaranteed this subthread has become inutile.


A child hath spoken. Looks like this one will discover at puberty that
he likes guys.

All that blathering and yet you still never bothered to explain WHY you
feel the need to bypass WGA for updates that obviously you *do* want
regardless of your opinions about the product, Bill, Steve, Twayne, and
anything or anyone else.

- You *DO* want the updates. You said so.
- You DON'T want to authenticate. No explanation but obvious as to why.
- YOU *CHOSE* to limit what updates you can get. So enjoy YOUR choice!

This is not a pro-piracy, crack, or hack group.

Seems like you would be much happier replacing Windows with a free
version of Linux. All that effort to thwart piracy detection could have
been spent learning a new OS.

On 03/31/2009 04:12 PM, XP Guy sent:
> I've got a system that hasn't been checking for windows updates for
> probably the better part of a year.
>
> I'm performing a custom (not express) WU session and I'm not getting a
> list of updates. Instead, Micro$oft wants me to first download and run
> WGA before it lets me get deeper into WU.
>
> I don't want to install WGA. What are my options?

MBSA, Secunia PSI, and though not OS related, FileHippo's Update Checker
for the system's other applications.

> Is there some registry setting, or delete a file, or obtain and place a
> file, so that MS thinks I've already got the WGA it wants me to have,
> so that I can proceed to the update list without actually running the
> WGA it wants me to have?

I believe the answer is, yes. I wouldn't recommend that though. If you
still insist after /all/ this, I believe a Google search will uncover them.

> Any posts asking why I don't want to run WGA will be ignored - or will
> quite likely receive verbal abuse in any subsequent reply (if I choose
> to reply).

I too just resurrected a system that had slept for a long time. I set
about doing due diligence to everything I could think of. Once I was
satisfied, I watched it install about 5 or 6 dozen updates from WU.
All went very well actually. It feels good to know that it's caught up
with much of the world. I too feared a bit of trouble, but it didn't
happen. Not even with WGA. I /retired/ its 2005 Symantec AntiVirus,
Spybot Search & Destroy and Ad Aware. I replaced those with Avira's
AntiVir, MBAM and SAS. Ran GMER, & installed the mvps.org's hosts file.
I do hope you bring that system up to SP3 though. YMMV.

I've just had a similar exchange with "Virus Guy" in a different
newsgroup. Undeniably, some of us abhor the very thought of WGA and
what it might do to your systems. I've come to the believe that if the
system(s) has/have been well cared for, that it's unlikely WGA will harm
them.

Flame on... if you must. I'd be happy to reasonably exchange ideas with
you.

Warm regards and good luck,

Pete
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