On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:23:32 -0400, Peter Foldes wrote:

> No I did not miss that. All I told the OP is that to get those files to show on his HD after he messed up with
> putting that HD into another computer as the main is to install it as a slave so he can access those encrypted files again on his HD.

Then you apparently don't know much about EFS. As I said, if as the OP
states, those files are really encrypted and the encryption certificates
and keys are gone, you're suggestion will have absolutely no impact on his
inablilty to access those files. Those files are gone, period.

"Peter Foldes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
You have to take ownership of those files


As Seth pointed out, even if you take ownership, you still cannot decrypt
the files without either the original certificate or a valid recovery agent.

If the original poster hasn't backed up his/her certificates or doesn't have
a valid recovery agent, the only possible way to recover the files is to
somehow use the original operating system partition on the disk from the old
machine to boot Windows and then do what is needed to be able to access the
files on the new machine.

Being able to access the files on the new system isn't helpful if the files
remain encrypted.

-Pete

I am kind of having the same problem but I want to take ownership of the
DRIVE that was in my old system that was running XP and now i have it on my
Vista box. I can not even get a doc file to open after i give myself the
ownership it says denied. So i am thinking ,,,can I take ownership of the
whole drive and how.
Thanks so much

"Malke" wrote:

> Familydavis wrote:
> > I cannot take ownership of the files, Vista says that access is denied. I've
> > tried opening the files in the hope that I could save as something else but
> > access is denied.
> >
> > "Familydavis" wrote:
> >
> >> My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD, certain
> >> files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
> >> everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
> >> 'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
> >> non-encrypted files though - help!!!
>
> Check the permissions of the file or folder the file is saved in and
> take ownership:
>
> 1. Right-click the file or folder, and then click Properties.
> 2. Click the Security tab.
> 3. Under Group or user names, click your name to see the permissions you
> have.
>
> To open a file, you need to have read permission. For more information
> on permissions, see What are permissions?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2j9vgr
>
> To take ownership of a folder:
>
> 1. Right-click the folder that you want to take ownership of, and then
> click Properties.
> 2. Click the Security tab, click Advanced, and then click the Owner tab.
> 3. Click Edit. Administrator permission required If you are prompted for
> an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide
> confirmation.
> 4. Click the name of the person you want to give ownership to.
> 5. If you want that person to be the owner of files and subfolders in
> this folder, select the Replace owner on subcontainers and objects check
> box.
> 6. Click OK
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

Right click on the root of the drive in Computer, select Properties, then
Security tab, and give your user account full control.

--
I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"zaint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:94AC7068-0E6B-4C95-A02A-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am kind of having the same problem but I want to take ownership of the
> DRIVE that was in my old system that was running XP and now i have it on my
> Vista box. I can not even get a doc file to open after i give myself the
> ownership it says denied. So i am thinking ,,,can I take ownership of the
> whole drive and how.
> Thanks so much
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
>> Familydavis wrote:
>> > I cannot take ownership of the files, Vista says that access is denied.
>> > I've
>> > tried opening the files in the hope that I could save as something else but
>> > access is denied.
>> >
>> > "Familydavis" wrote:
>> >
>> >> My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD,
>> >> certain
>> >> files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
>> >> everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
>> >> 'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
>> >> non-encrypted files though - help!!!
>>
>> Check the permissions of the file or folder the file is saved in and
>> take ownership:
>>
>> 1. Right-click the file or folder, and then click Properties.
>> 2. Click the Security tab.
>> 3. Under Group or user names, click your name to see the permissions you
>> have.
>>
>> To open a file, you need to have read permission. For more information
>> on permissions, see What are permissions?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2j9vgr
>>
>> To take ownership of a folder:
>>
>> 1. Right-click the folder that you want to take ownership of, and then
>> click Properties.
>> 2. Click the Security tab, click Advanced, and then click the Owner tab.
>> 3. Click Edit. Administrator permission required If you are prompted for
>> an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide
>> confirmation.
>> 4. Click the name of the person you want to give ownership to.
>> 5. If you want that person to be the owner of files and subfolders in
>> this folder, select the Replace owner on subcontainers and objects check
>> box.
>> 6. Click OK
>>
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> Elephant Boy Computers
>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> "Don't Panic!"
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>

Tried that and I still can only get to some files and others i can not.

"Cal Bear '66" wrote:

> Right click on the root of the drive in Computer, select Properties, then
> Security tab, and give your user account full control.
>
> --
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!
>
>
> "zaint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:94AC7068-0E6B-4C95-A02A-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I am kind of having the same problem but I want to take ownership of the
> > DRIVE that was in my old system that was running XP and now i have it on my
> > Vista box. I can not even get a doc file to open after i give myself the
> > ownership it says denied. So i am thinking ,,,can I take ownership of the
> > whole drive and how.
> > Thanks so much
> >
> > "Malke" wrote:
> >
> >> Familydavis wrote:
> >> > I cannot take ownership of the files, Vista says that access is denied.
> >> > I've
> >> > tried opening the files in the hope that I could save as something else but
> >> > access is denied.
> >> >
> >> > "Familydavis" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD,
> >> >> certain
> >> >> files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have tried
> >> >> everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me as the
> >> >> 'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
> >> >> non-encrypted files though - help!!!
> >>
> >> Check the permissions of the file or folder the file is saved in and
> >> take ownership:
> >>
> >> 1. Right-click the file or folder, and then click Properties.
> >> 2. Click the Security tab.
> >> 3. Under Group or user names, click your name to see the permissions you
> >> have.
> >>
> >> To open a file, you need to have read permission. For more information
> >> on permissions, see What are permissions?
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/2j9vgr
> >>
> >> To take ownership of a folder:
> >>
> >> 1. Right-click the folder that you want to take ownership of, and then
> >> click Properties.
> >> 2. Click the Security tab, click Advanced, and then click the Owner tab.
> >> 3. Click Edit. Administrator permission required If you are prompted for
> >> an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide
> >> confirmation.
> >> 4. Click the name of the person you want to give ownership to.
> >> 5. If you want that person to be the owner of files and subfolders in
> >> this folder, select the Replace owner on subcontainers and objects check
> >> box.
> >> 6. Click OK
> >>
> >>
> >> Malke
> >> --
> >> Elephant Boy Computers
> >> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> >> "Don't Panic!"
> >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >>
>
>

See if this doesn't help:
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...ard-drive.aspx

--
Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...otectyourwi-20


"zaint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:B19EAB60-B7CE-40B0-80E1-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Tried that and I still can only get to some files and others i can not.
>
> "Cal Bear '66" wrote:
>
>> Right click on the root of the drive in Computer, select Properties, then
>> Security tab, and give your user account full control.
>>
>> --
>> I Bleed Blue and Gold
>> GO BEARS!
>>
>>
>> "zaint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:94AC7068-0E6B-4C95-A02A-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I am kind of having the same problem but I want to take ownership of the
>> > DRIVE that was in my old system that was running XP and now i have it
>> > on my
>> > Vista box. I can not even get a doc file to open after i give myself
>> > the
>> > ownership it says denied. So i am thinking ,,,can I take ownership of
>> > the
>> > whole drive and how.
>> > Thanks so much
>> >
>> > "Malke" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Familydavis wrote:
>> >> > I cannot take ownership of the files, Vista says that access is
>> >> > denied.
>> >> > I've
>> >> > tried opening the files in the hope that I could save as something
>> >> > else but
>> >> > access is denied.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Familydavis" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> My PC blew up, I now have a new PC with Vista installed. On my HDD,
>> >> >> certain
>> >> >> files are encrypted and I can't move them onto my new PC - I have
>> >> >> tried
>> >> >> everything that I can think of but the new PC does not recognise me
>> >> >> as the
>> >> >> 'owner' of the folders so will not let me move them! I can move all
>> >> >> non-encrypted files though - help!!!
>> >>
>> >> Check the permissions of the file or folder the file is saved in and
>> >> take ownership:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Right-click the file or folder, and then click Properties.
>> >> 2. Click the Security tab.
>> >> 3. Under Group or user names, click your name to see the permissions
>> >> you
>> >> have.
>> >>
>> >> To open a file, you need to have read permission. For more information
>> >> on permissions, see What are permissions?
>> >>
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/2j9vgr
>> >>
>> >> To take ownership of a folder:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Right-click the folder that you want to take ownership of, and then
>> >> click Properties.
>> >> 2. Click the Security tab, click Advanced, and then click the Owner
>> >> tab.
>> >> 3. Click Edit. Administrator permission required If you are prompted
>> >> for
>> >> an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or
>> >> provide
>> >> confirmation.
>> >> 4. Click the name of the person you want to give ownership to.
>> >> 5. If you want that person to be the owner of files and subfolders in
>> >> this folder, select the Replace owner on subcontainers and objects
>> >> check
>> >> box.
>> >> 6. Click OK
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Malke
>> >> --
>> >> Elephant Boy Computers
>> >> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> >> "Don't Panic!"
>> >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> >>
>>
>>