I am having trouble doing a scratch install of XP on a (formerly)
preloaded HP Pavilion that suffered a HD crash, taking with it the HP
Recovery partition. I have tried using XP Home SP2 Integrated install
CDs (Retail or OEM) but both won't respect the XP Home key code
printed on the sticker on the side of the PC. Once again, there is no
HP XP "media" because it was lost inside the crashed HD.

I have previously reinstalled XP on an eMachines with an 'XP Upgrade'
key code using an Integrated XP SP2 Integrated OEM CD. It just doesn't
make sense that I have a valid license, am trying it on the same PC,
but can't get it installed.

Can someone please help me get XP re-installed on this PC? TIA.

"Tee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am having trouble doing a scratch install of XP on a (formerly)
> preloaded HP Pavilion that suffered a HD crash, taking with it the HP
> Recovery partition. I have tried using XP Home SP2 Integrated install
> CDs (Retail or OEM) but both won't respect the XP Home key code
> printed on the sticker on the side of the PC. Once again, there is no
> HP XP "media" because it was lost inside the crashed HD.
>
> I have previously reinstalled XP on an eMachines with an 'XP Upgrade'
> key code using an Integrated XP SP2 Integrated OEM CD. It just doesn't
> make sense that I have a valid license, am trying it on the same PC,
> but can't get it installed.
>
> Can someone please help me get XP re-installed on this PC? TIA.

Most likely because HP uses a customized OEM OS and their Key is only valid on with that version.
You may be able to buy a set of HP restore disk from www.restoredisk.com

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:18:38 -0700, "Richard in AZ" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>
>"Tee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I am having trouble doing a scratch install of XP on a (formerly)
>> preloaded HP Pavilion that suffered a HD crash, taking with it the HP
>> Recovery partition. I have tried using XP Home SP2 Integrated install
>> CDs (Retail or OEM) but both won't respect the XP Home key code
>> printed on the sticker on the side of the PC. Once again, there is no
>> HP XP "media" because it was lost inside the crashed HD.
>>
>> I have previously reinstalled XP on an eMachines with an 'XP Upgrade'
>> key code using an Integrated XP SP2 Integrated OEM CD. It just doesn't
>> make sense that I have a valid license, am trying it on the same PC,
>> but can't get it installed.
>>
>> Can someone please help me get XP re-installed on this PC? TIA.
>
>Most likely because HP uses a customized OEM OS and their Key is only valid on with that version.
>You may be able to buy a set of HP restore disk from www.restoredisk.com
>

I went to that link, it has lots of other links to other sites for
'system disks', 'rescue disks', etc., nothing I recognized as being an
HP restore disk. Do you know which link?

I hope you're mistaken, even though I can't question what you said.
So, every hardware vendor has a customized OS? If that's the case, how
could a brand new, shrink wrapped copy of XP work if the HW needs a
special customized OS? Like I said I was able to totally reinstall an
eMachines and it respected the key code.

Anyway, it just seems wrong that I would have to buy something when I
already own the license and can easily get the Microsoft media to
reinstall.

Thanks.

"Tee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:18:38 -0700, "Richard in AZ" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Tee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I am having trouble doing a scratch install of XP on a (formerly)
>>> preloaded HP Pavilion that suffered a HD crash, taking with it the HP
>>> Recovery partition. I have tried using XP Home SP2 Integrated install
>>> CDs (Retail or OEM) but both won't respect the XP Home key code
>>> printed on the sticker on the side of the PC. Once again, there is no
>>> HP XP "media" because it was lost inside the crashed HD.
>>>
>>> I have previously reinstalled XP on an eMachines with an 'XP Upgrade'
>>> key code using an Integrated XP SP2 Integrated OEM CD. It just doesn't
>>> make sense that I have a valid license, am trying it on the same PC,
>>> but can't get it installed.
>>>
>>> Can someone please help me get XP re-installed on this PC? TIA.
>>
>>Most likely because HP uses a customized OEM OS and their Key is only
>>valid on with that version.
>>You may be able to buy a set of HP restore disk from www.restoredisk.com
>>
>
> I went to that link, it has lots of other links to other sites for
> 'system disks', 'rescue disks', etc., nothing I recognized as being an
> HP restore disk. Do you know which link?
>
> I hope you're mistaken, even though I can't question what you said.
> So, every hardware vendor has a customized OS? If that's the case, how
> could a brand new, shrink wrapped copy of XP work if the HW needs a
> special customized OS? Like I said I was able to totally reinstall an
> eMachines and it respected the key code.
>
> Anyway, it just seems wrong that I would have to buy something when I
> already own the license and can easily get the Microsoft media to
> reinstall.
>
> Thanks.

I think he left the s off. Try,
http://www.restoredisks.com/

Tee wrote:
> I am having trouble doing a scratch install of XP on a (formerly)
> preloaded HP Pavilion that suffered a HD crash, taking with it the HP
> Recovery partition. I have tried using XP Home SP2 Integrated install
> CDs (Retail or OEM) but both won't respect the XP Home key code
> printed on the sticker on the side of the PC. Once again, there is no
> HP XP "media" because it was lost inside the crashed HD.
>
> I have previously reinstalled XP on an eMachines with an 'XP Upgrade'
> key code using an Integrated XP SP2 Integrated OEM CD. It just doesn't
> make sense that I have a valid license, am trying it on the same PC,
> but can't get it installed.
>
> Can someone please help me get XP re-installed on this PC? TIA.

If the HDD crash took away your Recovery partition, is it possible that
the drive is shot and you need to purchase/install a new one?

Who does the Retail disk/license belong to? If it belongs to you and if
that particular license is not being used on another PC, then you can
use it. But the key (which is OEM) on your COA sticker on the HP won't
work. You would need to use the key that came with the disk.

You said you tried using an OEM disk, too. This should work provided it
is a *generic* (i.e., not branded) OEM disk. And the key on your COA
sticker should work.

Have you contacted HP for a replacement recovery disk? They should be
able to provide you one for a nominal fee. See:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...os=228&lang=en

(or http://tinyurl.com/3d3wh3 )

If not, there's always:

http://www.restoredisks.com (note the plural!)

Tee wrote:
> I am having trouble doing a scratch install of XP on a (formerly)
> preloaded HP Pavilion that suffered a HD crash, taking with it the HP
> Recovery partition. I have tried using XP Home SP2 Integrated install
> CDs (Retail or OEM) but both won't respect the XP Home key code
> printed on the sticker on the side of the PC.


That's to be expected. Product Keys are bound to the specific type
and language of CD/license (OEM, Volume, retail, full, or Upgrade) with
which they are purchased. For example, a WinXP Home OEM Product Key
won't work for any retail version of WinXP Home, or for any version of
WinXP Pro, and vice versa. An Upgrade License's Product Key cannot be
used with a full version CD, and vice versa. An OEM Product Key will
not work to install a retail product. An Italian Product Key will not
work with an English CD. Bottom line: Product Keys and CD/license types
cannot be mixed & matched.



> Once again, there is no
> HP XP "media" because it was lost inside the crashed HD.
>


That's why HP computers prompt you to create your Recovery Disk from
that partition the very first time you turn them on. And the capability
remains available via the Start Menu until removed by the computer owner.


> I have previously reinstalled XP on an eMachines with an 'XP Upgrade'
> key code using an Integrated XP SP2 Integrated OEM CD. It just doesn't
> make sense that I have a valid license, am trying it on the same PC,
> but can't get it installed.
>

That shouldn't have worked. If it did, it must have been a one-time
fluke.Are you absolutely sure that you successfully used an Upgrade
Product Key with an OEM CD?


> Can someone please help me get XP re-installed on this PC? TIA.

Contact HP for assistance in obtaining Recovery media.


--

Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
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Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

"Tee" wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I am having trouble doing a scratch install of XP on a (formerly)
> preloaded HP Pavilion that suffered a HD crash, taking with it the
> HP
> Recovery partition. I have tried using XP Home SP2 Integrated
> install
> CDs (Retail or OEM) but both won't respect the XP Home key code
> printed on the sticker on the side of the PC. Once again, there is
> no
> HP XP "media" because it was lost inside the crashed HD.
>
> I have previously reinstalled XP on an eMachines with an 'XP
> Upgrade'
> key code using an Integrated XP SP2 Integrated OEM CD. It just
> doesn't
> make sense that I have a valid license, am trying it on the same PC,
> but can't get it installed.
>
> Can someone please help me get XP re-installed on this PC? TIA.


Probably because you have a product key for the bastardized version of
Windows as distributed by HP. The key on the case is for THAT
version, not whatever you are trying to use. Use the phone number in
the docs supplied with the pre-built HP host to call them to ask for
the recovery CDs (which you didn't bother to create when you received
the host). Cost should somewhere around $20 to $30. Took then just 2
days to deliver the package. Also, remember that a recovery CD is
*not* the same as an install CD.

Bruce, XP retail upgrade edition and full edition product keys are
interchangeable.

"Bruce Chambers" <(E-Mail Removed)3t> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Tee wrote:
>> I am having trouble doing a scratch install of XP on a (formerly)
>> preloaded HP Pavilion that suffered a HD crash, taking with it the HP
>> Recovery partition. I have tried using XP Home SP2 Integrated install
>> CDs (Retail or OEM) but both won't respect the XP Home key code
>> printed on the sticker on the side of the PC.
>
>
> That's to be expected. Product Keys are bound to the specific type
> and language of CD/license (OEM, Volume, retail, full, or Upgrade) with
> which they are purchased. For example, a WinXP Home OEM Product Key won't
> work for any retail version of WinXP Home, or for any version of WinXP
> Pro, and vice versa. An Upgrade License's Product Key cannot be used with
> a full version CD, and vice versa. An OEM Product Key will not work to
> install a retail product. An Italian Product Key will not work with an
> English CD. Bottom line: Product Keys and CD/license types cannot be
> mixed & matched.
>
>
>
>> Once again, there is no
>> HP XP "media" because it was lost inside the crashed HD.
>>
>
>
> That's why HP computers prompt you to create your Recovery Disk from that
> partition the very first time you turn them on. And the capability
> remains available via the Start Menu until removed by the computer owner.
>
>
>> I have previously reinstalled XP on an eMachines with an 'XP Upgrade'
>> key code using an Integrated XP SP2 Integrated OEM CD. It just doesn't
>> make sense that I have a valid license, am trying it on the same PC,
>> but can't get it installed.
>
> That shouldn't have worked. If it did, it must have been a one-time
> fluke.Are you absolutely sure that you successfully used an Upgrade
> Product Key with an OEM CD?
>
>
>> Can someone please help me get XP re-installed on this PC? TIA.
>
> Contact HP for assistance in obtaining Recovery media.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:11:36 -0500, "Daave"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Tee wrote:
>> I am having trouble doing a scratch install of XP on a (formerly)
>> preloaded HP Pavilion that suffered a HD crash, taking with it the HP
>> Recovery partition. I have tried using XP Home SP2 Integrated install
>> CDs (Retail or OEM) but both won't respect the XP Home key code
>> printed on the sticker on the side of the PC. Once again, there is no
>> HP XP "media" because it was lost inside the crashed HD.
>>
>> I have previously reinstalled XP on an eMachines with an 'XP Upgrade'
>> key code using an Integrated XP SP2 Integrated OEM CD. It just doesn't
>> make sense that I have a valid license, am trying it on the same PC,
>> but can't get it installed.
>>
>> Can someone please help me get XP re-installed on this PC? TIA.
>
>If the HDD crash took away your Recovery partition, is it possible that
>the drive is shot and you need to purchase/install a new one?

It's gone, I had to buy a new one just to attempt the install.

>
>Who does the Retail disk/license belong to? If it belongs to you and if
>that particular license is not being used on another PC, then you can
>use it. But the key (which is OEM) on your COA sticker on the HP won't
>work. You would need to use the key that came with the disk.

It belongs to a friend, I'm fixing it for her; as I said, I used the
same CD with an XP Home Upgrade key with an eMachines, so the OEM CD &
Key were interchangeable in that case. To me that means they don't
necessarily need to be matched.

>
>You said you tried using an OEM disk, too. This should work provided it
>is a *generic* (i.e., not branded) OEM disk. And the key on your COA
>sticker should work.

It didn't, and there's someone else responding that said they
shouldn't. I would side with you, if it were a matter of opinion.

>
>Have you contacted HP for a replacement recovery disk? They should be
>able to provide you one for a nominal fee. See:
>
>http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...os=228&lang=en
>
>(or http://tinyurl.com/3d3wh3 )
>
>If not, there's always:
>
>http://www.restoredisks.com (note the plural!)
>

I started a chat but after almost an hour with 10 minute lags in
responses, I figured out that they didn't even understand the
question. I emailed a detailed question and didn't get an answer yet.

I'm just frustrated that I have a new drive, I have original Microsoft
Integrated CDs (any kind a want) and a key code, and I need to suspend
my life, order CDs, etc. This, in contrast to what the pirates do, and
they would have been finished a half hour after I started this whole
mess. It's clear to me that HP created this obstacle to make more
money after the sale, and other manufacturers did not.

I know you folks are helping, I'm not directing this at you.

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:13:26 -0700, Bruce Chambers
<(E-Mail Removed)3t> wrote:

>Tee wrote:
>> I am having trouble doing a scratch install of XP on a (formerly)
>> preloaded HP Pavilion that suffered a HD crash, taking with it the HP
>> Recovery partition. I have tried using XP Home SP2 Integrated install
>> CDs (Retail or OEM) but both won't respect the XP Home key code
>> printed on the sticker on the side of the PC.
>
>
> That's to be expected. Product Keys are bound to the specific type
>and language of CD/license (OEM, Volume, retail, full, or Upgrade) with
>which they are purchased. For example, a WinXP Home OEM Product Key
>won't work for any retail version of WinXP Home, or for any version of
>WinXP Pro, and vice versa. An Upgrade License's Product Key cannot be
>used with a full version CD, and vice versa. An OEM Product Key will
>not work to install a retail product. An Italian Product Key will not
>work with an English CD. Bottom line: Product Keys and CD/license types
>cannot be mixed & matched.

I'm using XP Home OEM CD & XP Home Retail CD's. This is an XP Home
license, what other flavor exists? Also, I used an XP Home OEM CD with
an Upgrade key and it worked with a new install. The activation worked
after installation.

>
>
>
>> Once again, there is no
>> HP XP "media" because it was lost inside the crashed HD.
>>
>
>
> That's why HP computers prompt you to create your Recovery Disk from
>that partition the very first time you turn them on. And the capability
>remains available via the Start Menu until removed by the computer owner.

Too late, and it isn't my PC. You probably know most home users, they
would have said 'huh?' to the above remark. That's a moot point right
now.

>
>
>> I have previously reinstalled XP on an eMachines with an 'XP Upgrade'
>> key code using an Integrated XP SP2 Integrated OEM CD. It just doesn't
>> make sense that I have a valid license, am trying it on the same PC,
>> but can't get it installed.
>>
>
> That shouldn't have worked. If it did, it must have been a one-time
>fluke.Are you absolutely sure that you successfully used an Upgrade
>Product Key with an OEM CD?

Absolutely.

>
>
>> Can someone please help me get XP re-installed on this PC? TIA.
>
> Contact HP for assistance in obtaining Recovery media.

I may have to, but it makes it very frustrating when I know that the
rest of the world doesn't have to jump through these hoops.