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Can't do runas for explorer

 
 
OvErboRed
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      19th Jan 2004
When I try right-clicking on the Windows Explorer shortcut and selecting
Run As, and entering the Administrator login, nothing happens. I've also
tried using the console, with "runas /user:administrator explorer", to no
avail. I know this can be worked around with iexplore, but I'm wondering if
there's a more direct way, or at least why this is (intentionally?)
disabled. I have all critical updates, etc. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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Roger Abell [MVP]
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      19th Jan 2004
Explorer cannot be started this way.
Explorer is your shell, in the sense that it will reinitialize on
failure and that it underlies your entire winstation desktop
session. You cannot have two in separate security contexts
in one login.


"OvErboRed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> When I try right-clicking on the Windows Explorer shortcut and selecting
> Run As, and entering the Administrator login, nothing happens. I've also
> tried using the console, with "runas /user:administrator explorer", to no
> avail. I know this can be worked around with iexplore, but I'm wondering

if
> there's a more direct way, or at least why this is (intentionally?)
> disabled. I have all critical updates, etc. Thanks in advance for any

help.


 
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OvErboRed
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      19th Jan 2004
Thanks for your reply. I am aware that instances of explorer represent the
shell as well as the file manager. However, I do not understand the
explanation (your final sentence). It's possible to launch IE, then have it
switch into an explorer-like mode.

"Roger Abell [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Explorer cannot be started this way.
> Explorer is your shell, in the sense that it will reinitialize on
> failure and that it underlies your entire winstation desktop
> session. You cannot have two in separate security contexts
> in one login.

 
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Durand
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      19th Jan 2004
Actually, explorer can be runas another administrative account if the
poster is using a different shell such as litestep. Like you Doug said,
the poster is using explorer as the shell and is therefore blocked
from logging as someone else. I haven't seen if it might work if fast
user switching is enabled. Note to poster: if you need to run some
things as administrator, open explorer and browse to the items you need,
and right click to use runas. Or alternatively, you can also run cmd.exe
as administrator and launch your programs from there.

Roger Abell [MVP] wrote:
> Explorer cannot be started this way.
> Explorer is your shell, in the sense that it will reinitialize on
> failure and that it underlies your entire winstation desktop
> session. You cannot have two in separate security contexts
> in one login.
>
>
> "OvErboRed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns9474C41D324C3yangstaoverbored@207.46.248.16...
>
>>When I try right-clicking on the Windows Explorer shortcut and selecting
>>Run As, and entering the Administrator login, nothing happens. I've also
>>tried using the console, with "runas /user:administrator explorer", to no
>>avail. I know this can be worked around with iexplore, but I'm wondering

>
> if
>
>>there's a more direct way, or at least why this is (intentionally?)
>>disabled. I have all critical updates, etc. Thanks in advance for any

>
> help.
>
>


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Durand

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Roger Abell [MVP]
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      19th Jan 2004
IE is not Explorer.
Explorer is launched from userinit process, which watches for it
to end without logoff and then reinitializes it so a login is not
without its shell. This can only be done one time, in one security
context, for a single login. If Explorer sees it is not launched in
this way within its security context it will not start. That is what
happens when you try launching it using RunAs.


"OvErboRed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your reply. I am aware that instances of explorer represent the
> shell as well as the file manager. However, I do not understand the
> explanation (your final sentence). It's possible to launch IE, then have

it
> switch into an explorer-like mode.
>
> "Roger Abell [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:#(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > Explorer cannot be started this way.
> > Explorer is your shell, in the sense that it will reinitialize on
> > failure and that it underlies your entire winstation desktop
> > session. You cannot have two in separate security contexts
> > in one login.



 
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tty
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      27th Jan 2004

Thanks!

Great idea to use iexplorer as an explorer replacement. Seems to be a
good idea anyway to run IE as an unpriviledged user, since its usage
bears a high security risk.

(This is my first day using RUNAS.)

Greetings,
tty (from ircnet #perl.de)


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