I had the beta 1 version of Defender on my computer. It just stopped coming
up. I decided to get Defender Beta 2. I tried to install, but it says I
have a previous version running on my CPU that I must first remove. I have
gone to Add/Remove programs and there is nothing there. No Giant, no
defender, nothing that says beta, I reconized all the programs except Panda
active scan. Is that the one I am suppost to remove? If not how do I get
rid of the first version?

See this post below:

From: gman
Subject: Microsoft Antispyware gaint
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 05:53:01 -0700
Newsgroups: microsoft.private.security.spyware.install

--

Regards, Dave


DougT wrote:
> I had the beta 1 version of Defender on my computer. It just stopped
> coming
> up. I decided to get Defender Beta 2. I tried to install, but it says I
> have a previous version running on my CPU that I must first remove. I
> have
> gone to Add/Remove programs and there is nothing there. No Giant, no
> defender, nothing that says beta, I reconized all the programs except
> Panda
> active scan. Is that the one I am suppost to remove? If not how do I
> get
> rid of the first version?

Dave M,
Thanks - I check out the other post... However, when I went to filehippo and
found the old version listed. I could figure out how to download it. The
link sent me to microsoft and the newest Defender Beta2 version. Where to I
get the old version?
Thanks for you help... hope you can help further.

"Dave M" wrote:

> See this post below:
>
> From: gman
> Subject: Microsoft Antispyware gaint
> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 05:53:01 -0700
> Newsgroups: microsoft.private.security.spyware.install
>
> --
>
> Regards, Dave
>
>
> DougT wrote:
> > I had the beta 1 version of Defender on my computer. It just stopped
> > coming
> > up. I decided to get Defender Beta 2. I tried to install, but it says I
> > have a previous version running on my CPU that I must first remove. I
> > have
> > gone to Add/Remove programs and there is nothing there. No Giant, no
> > defender, nothing that says beta, I reconized all the programs except
> > Panda
> > active scan. Is that the one I am suppost to remove? If not how do I
> > get
> > rid of the first version?
>
>
>

Doug;
If it's sending you to Microsoft, you're trying to download Defender Beta
2. You should be trying to download under Old versions: Microsoft
Antispyware Beta 1, which is no longer distributed by Microsoft, but still
is on the filehippo site. You'll have to re-install it to be able to
un-install it easily so you can then load re-load Defender. Click that
version and when the page says Ms Antispyware 1.0.701 Beta and the file
size is 6.59 Meg then click "Download this Version."

Contrary to all the hype about Defender uninstalling MSAS, often this does
not work, as observed in reading this forum. If I had to guess, it's
possibly due to using an overly aggressive Registry Cleaner, but other
factors could be involved as well. I've always thought it was a good idea
to uninstall MSAS first, including manually deleting its registry entries,
MSAS folders, and various Giant gcas- files, before installing
Windows®Defender. And don't forget any Quarantined items that you might
need to retrieve from MSAS before you kiss it goodbye.

This posting was the best at laying it all out, unfortunately it has
disappeared. Engel had a good summary too for a manual uninstall, maybe he
can repost since I can't find his either (geesh - must be the HTML database
fiasco we had a month or so ago):

From: layaguara
Subject: Windows Defender Installation - Signature & MSAntispyware removal
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 03:03:02 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.private.security.spyware.install

--

Regards, Dave


DougT wrote:
> Dave M,
> Thanks - I check out the other post... However, when I went to filehippo
> and
> found the old version listed. I could figure out how to download it.
> The
> link sent me to microsoft and the newest Defender Beta2 version. Where
> to I
> get the old version?
> Thanks for you help... hope you can help further.
>

Hello Doug,
Try here:
http://www.filehippo.com/download/88...5a33/download/


I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Еиçеl
--
"DougT" wrote:

> Dave M,
> Thanks - I check out the other post... However, when I went to filehippo and
> found the old version listed. I could figure out how to download it. The
> link sent me to microsoft and the newest Defender Beta2 version. Where to I
> get the old version?
> Thanks for you help... hope you can help further.
>
> "Dave M" wrote:
>
> > See this post below:
> >
> > From: gman
> > Subject: Microsoft Antispyware gaint
> > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 05:53:01 -0700
> > Newsgroups: microsoft.private.security.spyware.install
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards, Dave
> >
> >
> > DougT wrote:
> > > I had the beta 1 version of Defender on my computer. It just stopped
> > > coming
> > > up. I decided to get Defender Beta 2. I tried to install, but it says I
> > > have a previous version running on my CPU that I must first remove. I
> > > have
> > > gone to Add/Remove programs and there is nothing there. No Giant, no
> > > defender, nothing that says beta, I reconized all the programs except
> > > Panda
> > > active scan. Is that the one I am suppost to remove? If not how do I
> > > get
> > > rid of the first version?
> >
> >
> >

Ok guys... I found the download button at filehippo. downloaded ver 1.0.7
and installed it. When it ask if ok to install to c:\program files\microsoft
antispyware I checked for that location on my cpu before saying ok. It of
course was already there. I did the install. Program came up scanned and
asked if I wanted to install the newest updated version. I said yes. Window
pops up again to uninstall previous version. So, I uninstalled it in
add/remove. re-booted and tried to install beta2. Same window.. I then
checked add/remove again... not there. I delete c:\program files\microsoft
antiSpyware to recycle bin. Then tried to install Beta 2... same message.
now a little more history.. Before I lost beta 1 it use to sometimes come up
with 2 icon on the taskbar - like 2 version were running. Also, AOL spyware
is running on this machine and I cannot stop, disable or find a way to remove
it either.
Any help would be appreciated.

"Engel" wrote:

> Hello Doug,
> Try here:
> http://www.filehippo.com/download/88...5a33/download/
>
>
> I hope this post is helpful.
>
> Let us know how it works ºut.
>
> Еиçеl
> --
> "DougT" wrote:
>
> > Dave M,
> > Thanks - I check out the other post... However, when I went to filehippo and
> > found the old version listed. I could figure out how to download it. The
> > link sent me to microsoft and the newest Defender Beta2 version. Where to I
> > get the old version?
> > Thanks for you help... hope you can help further.
> >
> > "Dave M" wrote:
> >
> > > See this post below:
> > >
> > > From: gman
> > > Subject: Microsoft Antispyware gaint
> > > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 05:53:01 -0700
> > > Newsgroups: microsoft.private.security.spyware.install
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Regards, Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > DougT wrote:
> > > > I had the beta 1 version of Defender on my computer. It just stopped
> > > > coming
> > > > up. I decided to get Defender Beta 2. I tried to install, but it says I
> > > > have a previous version running on my CPU that I must first remove. I
> > > > have
> > > > gone to Add/Remove programs and there is nothing there. No Giant, no
> > > > defender, nothing that says beta, I reconized all the programs except
> > > > Panda
> > > > active scan. Is that the one I am suppost to remove? If not how do I
> > > > get
> > > > rid of the first version?
> > >
> > >
> > >

Hi,
Doug, Please follow each step

Please make a restore point.

Download and Install Ccleaner -
http://www.ccleaner.com
http://forum.ccleaner.com/index.php?showtopic=1504
Note, When you install Ccleaner, uncheck the Yahoo toolbar optiºn.
Note, in Options, Settings, Advanced, - uncheck -> Only delete files in
Windows folders older than 48 hºurs.

Open Ccleaner and start the cleaning, press "Windows" "Aplications" and "Run
Cleaner" from the menu choose 'Issues' and then press scan for issues, Repair
any fºund.
Run twice Ccleaner, the same steps as above, until you det "0" in each
cleaning

Go here and run at least Clean up & Tune up
http://safety.live.com/site/en-US/default.htm

Now Doug go here:
Subject: Can't Install -- Error 1714
4/13/2006 11:00 AM PST
By: fredmertz
In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.installation

Good luck

"DougT" wrote:

> Ok guys... I found the download button at filehippo. downloaded ver 1.0.7
> and installed it. When it ask if ok to install to c:\program files\microsoft
> antispyware I checked for that location on my cpu before saying ok. It of
> course was already there. I did the install. Program came up scanned and
> asked if I wanted to install the newest updated version. I said yes. Window
> pops up again to uninstall previous version. So, I uninstalled it in
> add/remove. re-booted and tried to install beta2. Same window.. I then
> checked add/remove again... not there. I delete c:\program files\microsoft
> antiSpyware to recycle bin. Then tried to install Beta 2... same message.
> now a little more history.. Before I lost beta 1 it use to sometimes come up
> with 2 icon on the taskbar - like 2 version were running. Also, AOL spyware
> is running on this machine and I cannot stop, disable or find a way to remove
> it either.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> "Engel" wrote:
>
> > Hello Doug,
> > Try here:
> > http://www.filehippo.com/download/88...5a33/download/
> >
> >
> > I hope this post is helpful.
> >
> > Let us know how it works ºut.
> >
> > Еиçеl
> > --
> > "DougT" wrote:
> >
> > > Dave M,
> > > Thanks - I check out the other post... However, when I went to filehippo and
> > > found the old version listed. I could figure out how to download it. The
> > > link sent me to microsoft and the newest Defender Beta2 version. Where to I
> > > get the old version?
> > > Thanks for you help... hope you can help further.
> > >
> > > "Dave M" wrote:
> > >
> > > > See this post below:
> > > >
> > > > From: gman
> > > > Subject: Microsoft Antispyware gaint
> > > > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 05:53:01 -0700
> > > > Newsgroups: microsoft.private.security.spyware.install
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Regards, Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > DougT wrote:
> > > > > I had the beta 1 version of Defender on my computer. It just stopped
> > > > > coming
> > > > > up. I decided to get Defender Beta 2. I tried to install, but it says I
> > > > > have a previous version running on my CPU that I must first remove. I
> > > > > have
> > > > > gone to Add/Remove programs and there is nothing there. No Giant, no
> > > > > defender, nothing that says beta, I reconized all the programs except
> > > > > Panda
> > > > > active scan. Is that the one I am suppost to remove? If not how do I
> > > > > get
> > > > > rid of the first version?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Hi Engel;
Thanks for the pointer to those system32 files, I couldn't locate your
reference. That HTML database snafu wiped my Copernic desktop search out
and I had to reload everything from the partially recovered HTTP forums.
--

Regards, Dave


Engel wrote:
> Now Doug go here:
> Subject: Can't Install -- Error 1714
> 4/13/2006 11:00 AM PST
> By: fredmertz
> In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.installation
>
> Good luck

Hi Dave,

Bob's your uncle ;-)

"Dave M" wrote:

> Hi Engel;
> Thanks for the pointer to those system32 files, I couldn't locate your
> reference. That HTML database snafu wiped my Copernic desktop search out
> and I had to reload everything from the partially recovered HTTP forums.
> --
>
> Regards, Dave
>
>
> Engel wrote:
> > Now Doug go here:
> > Subject: Can't Install -- Error 1714
> > 4/13/2006 11:00 AM PST
> > By: fredmertz
> > In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.installation
> >
> > Good luck
>
>
>

Defender is installed...
Thank you guys for the help.


"Engel" wrote:

> Hi,
> Doug, Please follow each step
>
> Please make a restore point.
>
> Download and Install Ccleaner -
> http://www.ccleaner.com
> http://forum.ccleaner.com/index.php?showtopic=1504
> Note, When you install Ccleaner, uncheck the Yahoo toolbar optiºn.
> Note, in Options, Settings, Advanced, - uncheck -> Only delete files in
> Windows folders older than 48 hºurs.
>
> Open Ccleaner and start the cleaning, press "Windows" "Aplications" and "Run
> Cleaner" from the menu choose 'Issues' and then press scan for issues, Repair
> any fºund.
> Run twice Ccleaner, the same steps as above, until you det "0" in each
> cleaning
>
> Go here and run at least Clean up & Tune up
> http://safety.live.com/site/en-US/default.htm
>
> Now Doug go here:
> Subject: Can't Install -- Error 1714
> 4/13/2006 11:00 AM PST
> By: fredmertz
> In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.installation
>
> Good luck
>
> "DougT" wrote:
>
> > Ok guys... I found the download button at filehippo. downloaded ver 1.0.7
> > and installed it. When it ask if ok to install to c:\program files\microsoft
> > antispyware I checked for that location on my cpu before saying ok. It of
> > course was already there. I did the install. Program came up scanned and
> > asked if I wanted to install the newest updated version. I said yes. Window
> > pops up again to uninstall previous version. So, I uninstalled it in
> > add/remove. re-booted and tried to install beta2. Same window.. I then
> > checked add/remove again... not there. I delete c:\program files\microsoft
> > antiSpyware to recycle bin. Then tried to install Beta 2... same message.
> > now a little more history.. Before I lost beta 1 it use to sometimes come up
> > with 2 icon on the taskbar - like 2 version were running. Also, AOL spyware
> > is running on this machine and I cannot stop, disable or find a way to remove
> > it either.
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > "Engel" wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Doug,
> > > Try here:
> > > http://www.filehippo.com/download/88...5a33/download/
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope this post is helpful.
> > >
> > > Let us know how it works ºut.
> > >
> > > Еиçеl
> > > --
> > > "DougT" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dave M,
> > > > Thanks - I check out the other post... However, when I went to filehippo and
> > > > found the old version listed. I could figure out how to download it. The
> > > > link sent me to microsoft and the newest Defender Beta2 version. Where to I
> > > > get the old version?
> > > > Thanks for you help... hope you can help further.
> > > >
> > > > "Dave M" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > See this post below:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: gman
> > > > > Subject: Microsoft Antispyware gaint
> > > > > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 05:53:01 -0700
> > > > > Newsgroups: microsoft.private.security.spyware.install
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards, Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > DougT wrote:
> > > > > > I had the beta 1 version of Defender on my computer. It just stopped
> > > > > > coming
> > > > > > up. I decided to get Defender Beta 2. I tried to install, but it says I
> > > > > > have a previous version running on my CPU that I must first remove. I
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > gone to Add/Remove programs and there is nothing there. No Giant, no
> > > > > > defender, nothing that says beta, I reconized all the programs except
> > > > > > Panda
> > > > > > active scan. Is that the one I am suppost to remove? If not how do I
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > rid of the first version?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >