I am a new user of Vuescan 8.01 for the Nikon 8000 scanner in Windows
2000. I normally open scanned crop*.tif files in Photoshop CS and save
them as Photoshop (*.psd) files for future work. When I try to delete
the crop*.tif file I get the following message: " Cannot delete
crop*.tif. There has been a sharing violation.The source or
destination file may be in use." I have tried closing Photoshop,
closing Vuescan, rebooting but nothing works. Has anyone run into this
problem? I don't want to fill my hard disk with files I don't need.

"Bob Brenner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I am a new user of Vuescan 8.01 for the Nikon 8000 scanner in Windows
> 2000. I normally open scanned crop*.tif files in Photoshop CS and save
> them as Photoshop (*.psd) files for future work. When I try to delete
> the crop*.tif file I get the following message: " Cannot delete
> crop*.tif. There has been a sharing violation.The source or
> destination file may be in use." I have tried closing Photoshop,
> closing Vuescan, rebooting but nothing works. Has anyone run into this
> problem? I don't want to fill my hard disk with files I don't need.

Check the file properties to see if the miscreant files are set read only.
If so, uncheck this box.

Jim

Sometimes I have the same problem, even when the read only check box is
unchecked. The only thing that helps is to delete the file in DOS mode. For me
this is one of the riddles posed by Bill Gates. Any help??

Regards AFH
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Jim schrieb:

> "Bob Brenner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I am a new user of Vuescan 8.01 for the Nikon 8000 scanner in Windows
> > 2000. I normally open scanned crop*.tif files in Photoshop CS and save
> > them as Photoshop (*.psd) files for future work. When I try to delete
> > the crop*.tif file I get the following message: " Cannot delete
> > crop*.tif. There has been a sharing violation.The source or
> > destination file may be in use." I have tried closing Photoshop,
> > closing Vuescan, rebooting but nothing works. Has anyone run into this
> > problem? I don't want to fill my hard disk with files I don't need.
>
> Check the file properties to see if the miscreant files are set read only.
> If so, uncheck this box.
>
> Jim

Usually a buggy program...

If the file name contains a "special" character Windows will not be
able to access it. Those are characters which Windows doesn't allow
you to enter when naming a file.

DOS uses a unique but shorter file name when the Windows file name is
longer than the 8.3 (name.extension) format.

Therefore, if this (automatically generated) shorter file name doesn't
contain any of the special characters it's possible to delete it from
DOS.

When a special character is encountered anything following (and
sometimes the character itself) are quite often not displayed so the
file name may appear perfectly normal. The only way to see the full
name is to run a disk sector editor.

Frequently such files can also be deleted by using wildcard characters
(? or *).

The question is, of course, if the system doesn't allow special
characters, how do they end up in file names? Well, a number of ways:
buggy programs, for example, or during a crash. The place where file
names are stored (the directory) is just another sector on the disk so
it can be written that way.

Don.

On Sun, 30 May 2004 07:11:56 +0200, "A.F. Hobbacher"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Sometimes I have the same problem, even when the read only check box is
>unchecked. The only thing that helps is to delete the file in DOS mode. For me
>this is one of the riddles posed by Bill Gates. Any help??
>
>Regards AFH
>#############################################################
>
>Jim schrieb:
>
>> "Bob Brenner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I am a new user of Vuescan 8.01 for the Nikon 8000 scanner in Windows
>> > 2000. I normally open scanned crop*.tif files in Photoshop CS and save
>> > them as Photoshop (*.psd) files for future work. When I try to delete
>> > the crop*.tif file I get the following message: " Cannot delete
>> > crop*.tif. There has been a sharing violation.The source or
>> > destination file may be in use." I have tried closing Photoshop,
>> > closing Vuescan, rebooting but nothing works. Has anyone run into this
>> > problem? I don't want to fill my hard disk with files I don't need.
>>
>> Check the file properties to see if the miscreant files are set read only.
>> If so, uncheck this box.
>>
>> Jim
>

(E-Mail Removed) (Bob Brenner) wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> I am a new user of Vuescan 8.01 for the Nikon 8000 scanner in Windows
> 2000. I normally open scanned crop*.tif files in Photoshop CS and save
> them as Photoshop (*.psd) files for future work. When I try to delete
> the crop*.tif file I get the following message: " Cannot delete
> crop*.tif. There has been a sharing violation.The source or
> destination file may be in use." I have tried closing Photoshop,
> closing Vuescan, rebooting but nothing works. Has anyone run into this
> problem? I don't want to fill my hard disk with files I don't need.

Not exactly what you are asking about, but, there is nothing sacred
about using "crop" as a prefix in the names. This is just Ed Hamrick's
suggestion.

As far as cropping, I prefer to crop up-front, when I output Vuescan
raw files. I then rotate them if required, to landscape (from intitial
portrait orientation), using Photoshop. Then, when doing scan from
disk, I specify "maximum" and "0" for crop and rotation, and finished
tiffs come out rotated correctly, with no need to specify anything,
frame by frame.

Also off-topic, but I'm on a roll now, do look into the Vuescan Raw
file, if you haven't already, very useful concept. I do all my dust
and scratch cleaning directly on these files, keeping them as my
source files.

On topic: as a work around for your file saving problem, leave them as
tiffs? Or do you need it to be psd?

I know, there's a reason this is happening. I would point the finger
at Adobe. As an experiment, try deleting a "crop" tiff before the
Adobe save-as.

"A.F. Hobbacher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sometimes I have the same problem, even when the read only check box is
> unchecked. The only thing that helps is to delete the file in DOS mode.
For me
> this is one of the riddles posed by Bill Gates. Any help??
It may have a character in the file name which is not recognized as such by
Windows. One for instance that is one of the non printing ones.
Jim

Hello, Bob Brenner
you wrote...

> When I try to delete
> the crop*.tif file I get the following message: " Cannot delete
> crop*.tif. There has been a sharing violation.The source or
> destination file may be in use." I have tried closing Photoshop,
> closing Vuescan, rebooting but nothing works. Has anyone run into this
> problem? I don't want to fill my hard disk with files I don't need.

Go to sysinternals.com and get ProcessExplorer. Search for open handles
on your files (enter file name). You will get the name of the
misbehaving program keeping the files open (often this is windows
explorer itself). You can close the handle by force but be aware not to
close handles that are currently written. This might result in data
loss.

--
Erik Krause
Digital contrast problems: http://www.erik-krause.de/contrast

On 29 May 2004 16:34:05 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) (Bob Brenner)
wrote:

>I am a new user of Vuescan 8.01 for the Nikon 8000 scanner in Windows
>2000. I normally open scanned crop*.tif files in Photoshop CS and save
>them as Photoshop (*.psd) files for future work. When I try to delete
>the crop*.tif file I get the following message: " Cannot delete
>crop*.tif. There has been a sharing violation.The source or
>destination file may be in use." I have tried closing Photoshop,
>closing Vuescan, rebooting but nothing works. Has anyone run into this
>problem? I don't want to fill my hard disk with files I don't need.

I think any one who has used windows for more than a few months has
run into this problem in one form or another. Some times it's file
names too long, or file names containing invalid characters, or
corrupt files.

"More than likely" Windows thinks something else is using the file.
Normally if a reboot and accessing from PS still doesn't let you
delete the file try rebooting, do not restart any other programs and
then try deleting from "Windows Explorer"

There are a number of reasons for this, but I'd not think it'd be any
of the special characters. The key *should* be the "sharing
violation" which normally means a program still has control of that
image. Please note the weasel words, should, normally, and more than
likely<:-))

Another problem is the indexing that many turn on to speed searches
and file loading. The indexing can become confused with power line
noise, interruptions, or even a hard reboot at the wrong time.

Photoshop Elements can be annoying when I make a change and try to do
a save. It'll often tell me that file exists and I'll have to rename
the one I want to save. I know it exists and want to over write it,
but it refuses. Maybe I'm missing a setting.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com