Movie Maker 2 works great except for one thing. Every time
I try to make a VCD (save) I get the message. ."No
recordable device was found" All other software (ex: Nero)
detects my CD-RW drive with no problems. I am using a
Vaio laptop with XP Pro. 120GB hard drive. 256MB memory.

Thanks
EP

"Erwin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Movie Maker 2 works great except for one thing. Every time
> I try to make a VCD

MM doesn't make VCDs - when your have MM write your file to a CD, it
creates a "Windows only" CD.

> (save) I get the message. ."No
> recordable device was found" All other software (ex: Nero)
> detects my CD-RW drive with no problems. I am using a
> Vaio laptop with XP Pro. 120GB hard drive. 256MB memory.

If you want to create a VCD that you can play in a DVD player, your best
bet is to save your movie in DV-AVI format to your hard drive, then use
TMPGenc (http://www.tmpgenc.net/) to convert that to MPEG1 or MPEG2, which
you can then have Nero create a VCD or SVCD with.

Well, it says it can make a VCD, using its "HMAT" format. I made one that
way. The only problem is, I doubt any stand-alone DVD players will play that
format. I tried it on one, didn't work. Microsoft is probably hoping that
hardware DVD player manufacturers will incorporate that format, but I doubt
many have yet.

So in effect, a VCD created with WMM is only playable on a Windows computer,
although Microsoft wants the format to become more universal.


"whoever" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns93D4CD6BF639Fnospamnospam@207.46.248.16...
> "Erwin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:083401c36031$c4304e70$(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > Movie Maker 2 works great except for one thing. Every time
> > I try to make a VCD
>
> MM doesn't make VCDs - when your have MM write your file to a CD, it
> creates a "Windows only" CD.
>
> > (save) I get the message. ."No
> > recordable device was found" All other software (ex: Nero)
> > detects my CD-RW drive with no problems. I am using a
> > Vaio laptop with XP Pro. 120GB hard drive. 256MB memory.
>
> If you want to create a VCD that you can play in a DVD player, your best
> bet is to save your movie in DV-AVI format to your hard drive, then use
> TMPGenc (http://www.tmpgenc.net/) to convert that to MPEG1 or MPEG2, which
> you can then have Nero create a VCD or SVCD with.

>-----Original Message-----
>Movie Maker 2 works great except for one thing. Every
time
>I try to make a VCD (save) I get the message. ."No
>recordable device was found" All other software (ex:
Nero)
>detects my CD-RW drive with no problems. I am using a
>Vaio laptop with XP Pro. 120GB hard drive. 256MB memory.
>
>Thanks
>EP
>.
>

" MS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Well, it says it can make a VCD, using its "HMAT" format.

No, it doesn't, because HighMAT CDs aren't VCDs. (VCD is very specifically
defined, and the specification says that the video file is in MPEG1 format.
HighMAT is also very specifically defined, and it's definition excludes
anything that uses MPEG format).

MM2 will allow you to save your Video to a CD, but it never describes that
as a VCD.

> I made one
> that way. The only problem is, I doubt any stand-alone DVD players
> will play that format. I tried it on one, didn't work. Microsoft is
> probably hoping that hardware DVD player manufacturers will
> incorporate that format, but I doubt many have yet.

None of them have released any such DVD players, and at the current time,
no Consumer Electronics companies have even announced any plans to release
Home DVD players that support HighMAT video.

> So in effect, a VCD created with WMM is only playable on a Windows
> computer, although Microsoft wants the format to become more
> universal.

MS doesn't have to pay royalties on it's own proprietary formats!

Hey Dan,

Sorry - I didn't mean to mislead you. Dan is right, Movie Maker only
creates HighMAT level 3 (video) CDs. There are currently no HighMAT players
(that I know of) that play HighMAT level 3 (video) CDs. There are players
available currently which play HighMAT level 2 (pictures and audio) CDs.

Some current DVD players which support HighMAT level 2 available from
Panasonic are
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...+Compatibility -
there are also other hardware manufactures which have HighMAT support.

I don't know exactly when DVD players will come out that support HighMAT
level 3 (and 'coming soon' sounds maddingly vague, doesn't it?). A press
release which touches on this is:
http://www.consumerdvreviews.com/new...5092003_03.asp.

-Gareth


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"J. Daniel Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately, Microsoft likes to imply otherwise. For example, Gareth
> Howell wrote in this newsgroup on 28-July "There is also a HighMAT viewer
> available...just as you'd see it on your TV using the upcoming HighMAT
> players."
>
> While that statement isn't blatantly false, it is quite misleading in this
> newsgroup, since WMM2 only creates HighMAT *video* CDs. As you point out,
> there are no "upcoming HighMAT players" which will play such disks.
>
> Dan
>
> "whoever" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns93D6C444C2801nospamnospam@207.46.248.16...
> > " MS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > news:(E-Mail Removed):
> >
> > > Well, it says it can make a VCD, using its "HMAT" format.
> >
> > No, it doesn't, because HighMAT CDs aren't VCDs. (VCD is very
specifically
> > defined, and the specification says that the video file is in MPEG1
> format.
> > HighMAT is also very specifically defined, and it's definition excludes
> > anything that uses MPEG format).
> >
> > MM2 will allow you to save your Video to a CD, but it never describes
that
> > as a VCD.
> >
> > > I made one
> > > that way. The only problem is, I doubt any stand-alone DVD players
> > > will play that format. I tried it on one, didn't work. Microsoft is
> > > probably hoping that hardware DVD player manufacturers will
> > > incorporate that format, but I doubt many have yet.
> >
> > None of them have released any such DVD players, and at the current
time,
> > no Consumer Electronics companies have even announced any plans to
release
> > Home DVD players that support HighMAT video.
> >
> > > So in effect, a VCD created with WMM is only playable on a Windows
> > > computer, although Microsoft wants the format to become more
> > > universal.
> >
> > MS doesn't have to pay royalties on it's own proprietary formats!
>
>

"whoever" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> " MS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):

> MM2 will allow you to save your Video to a CD, but it never describes that
> as a VCD.

Sorry, I guess I interpreted "save video to CD" as VCD. But it seems to
create a CD that can only be read on a computer. Therefore, no different
than saving to a computer file, and putting that on a CD. i guess when one
sees in such a program "save to CD", it sounds like that means a DVD-player
playable CD.

Saving to a CD from WMM2 *is* different than saving to file and then
subsequently writing that file to a CD.

The difference is that the CD created by WMM2 will be in "HighMAT" format
which contains additional files/directories for navigation. Theoretically,
this HighMAT CD could be played on a stand-alone DVD player that supports
HighMAT, but no such players currently exist (OK, there *are* HighMAT
players, but they only play music/photos which is of no use to a WMM2 user
since it exclusively creates HighMAT/video CDs). In any case, with the
HighMAT player installed on a PC, a HighMAT CD might be a bit more
convenient to use than just a WMV file burned to CD.

Dan

" MS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "whoever" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns93D6C444C2801nospamnospam@207.46.248.16...
> > " MS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > MM2 will allow you to save your Video to a CD, but it never describes
that
> > as a VCD.
>
> Sorry, I guess I interpreted "save video to CD" as VCD. But it seems to
> create a CD that can only be read on a computer. Therefore, no different
> than saving to a computer file, and putting that on a CD. i guess when one
> sees in such a program "save to CD", it sounds like that means a
DVD-player
> playable CD.
>
>