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Disciple
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      2nd Feb 2006
XP Home sp2 w/all patches and critical updates.

In trying to get NovaBACKUP to work with my NAS drive I was told to change
a service it installs to logon as my administrator user account instead of
the Local System. I do all the steps necessary but when I go to restart the
service I get:

Error 1069: The service did not start due to a Logon Failure.

I have searched the MS KB using the error number but nothing turned up that
helped. I hope some one here can explain what is going on and how to
correct this.

TIA for your time and help.
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Steven L Umbach
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      3rd Feb 2006
The account you use needs the user right for logon as a service. Normally
that is done via Local Security Policy which XP Home does not have. The only
way I know of do that otherwise is to use the command line tool NTrights.
Just beware that the privilege you list with NTrights is case sensitive. The
links below may help. --- Steve

http://www.petri.co.il/download_free_reskit_tools.htm --- NTrights is
available at this link.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315276 --- NTrights syntax

ntrights -u username +r SeServiceLogonRight

"Disciple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> XP Home sp2 w/all patches and critical updates.
>
> In trying to get NovaBACKUP to work with my NAS drive I was told to change
> a service it installs to logon as my administrator user account instead of
> the Local System. I do all the steps necessary but when I go to restart
> the
> service I get:
>
> Error 1069: The service did not start due to a Logon Failure.
>
> I have searched the MS KB using the error number but nothing turned up
> that
> helped. I hope some one here can explain what is going on and how to
> correct this.
>
> TIA for your time and help.
> --
> Disciple - Team Z
> Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that
> his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. James 3:13



 
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      3rd Feb 2006
On 2/2/2006 7:43:43 PM in microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin, Steven
L Umbach wrote:

> The account you use needs the user right for logon as a service. Normally
> that is done via Local Security Policy which XP Home does not have. The only
> way I know of do that otherwise is to use the command line tool NTrights.
> Just beware that the privilege you list with NTrights is case sensitive. The
> links below may help. --- Steve
>
> http://www.petri.co.il/download_free_reskit_tools.htm --- NTrights is
> available at this link.
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315276 --- NTrights syntax


Thanks I downloaded and read the KB article.

> ntrights -u username +r SeServiceLogonRight


I did this within the cmd window, substituting my user name, it said
successful. But I am still getting the error message, I may do an
uninstall/re-install to see what will happen.

> "Disciple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> XP Home sp2 w/all patches and critical updates.
>>
>> In trying to get NovaBACKUP to work with my NAS drive I was told to change
>> a service it installs to logon as my administrator user account instead of
>> the Local System. I do all the steps necessary but when I go to restart
>> the
>> service I get:
>>
>> Error 1069: The service did not start due to a Logon Failure.
>>
>> I have searched the MS KB using the error number but nothing turned up
>> that
>> helped. I hope some one here can explain what is going on and how to
>> correct this.
>>
>> TIA for your time and help.


On a positive note, the NovaBACKUP support people are working with me on
this. I have exchanged emails and supplied requested info. Maybe one day
.
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Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that
his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. James 3:13
 
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Steven L Umbach
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      3rd Feb 2006
Hmm. Typically that is the problem with lack of user right for logon as
service. It is hard to troubleshoot in XP Home because you can not enable
advanced logging such as auditing for privilege user failure like you can in
XP Pro to see if the problem is due to lack of other user rights. It still
may help to review the application/system/security logs to see if any other
warnings/errors are recorded that may provide a clue. There is a free tool
called dumpsec from Somarsoft that you can use that will show the user
rights under report/ dump rights on a computer and then you can check to see
if that user account shows with user right to logon as a service or not. I
would also run the command ntrights -u username -r SeDenyServiceLogonRight
just in case but use administrators, users, and everyone in place of
username in case any of those groups have deny logon as a service user right
which XP Pro does not have as a default but I don't know what they did for
that user right in XP Home. A deny user right overrides the corresponding
allow user right. --- Steve

http://www.somarsoft.com/ --- link to dumpsec

"Disciple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 2/2/2006 7:43:43 PM in microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin,
> Steven
> L Umbach wrote:
>
>> The account you use needs the user right for logon as a service. Normally
>> that is done via Local Security Policy which XP Home does not have. The
>> only
>> way I know of do that otherwise is to use the command line tool NTrights.
>> Just beware that the privilege you list with NTrights is case sensitive.
>> The
>> links below may help. --- Steve
>>
>> http://www.petri.co.il/download_free_reskit_tools.htm --- NTrights is
>> available at this link.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315276 --- NTrights syntax

>
> Thanks I downloaded and read the KB article.
>
>> ntrights -u username +r SeServiceLogonRight

>
> I did this within the cmd window, substituting my user name, it said
> successful. But I am still getting the error message, I may do an
> uninstall/re-install to see what will happen.
>
>> "Disciple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> XP Home sp2 w/all patches and critical updates.
>>>
>>> In trying to get NovaBACKUP to work with my NAS drive I was told to
>>> change
>>> a service it installs to logon as my administrator user account instead
>>> of
>>> the Local System. I do all the steps necessary but when I go to restart
>>> the
>>> service I get:
>>>
>>> Error 1069: The service did not start due to a Logon Failure.
>>>
>>> I have searched the MS KB using the error number but nothing turned up
>>> that
>>> helped. I hope some one here can explain what is going on and how to
>>> correct this.
>>>
>>> TIA for your time and help.

>
> On a positive note, the NovaBACKUP support people are working with me on
> this. I have exchanged emails and supplied requested info. Maybe one day
> .
> --
> Disciple - Team Z
> Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that
> his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. James 3:13



 
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Disciple
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      8th Feb 2006
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:35:08 -0600, Steven L Umbach wrote:

> Hmm. Typically that is the problem with lack of user right for logon as
> service. It is hard to troubleshoot in XP Home because you can not enable
> advanced logging such as auditing for privilege user failure like you can in
> XP Pro to see if the problem is due to lack of other user rights. It still
> may help to review the application/system/security logs to see if any other
> warnings/errors are recorded that may provide a clue. There is a free tool
> called dumpsec from Somarsoft that you can use that will show the user
> rights under report/ dump rights on a computer and then you can check to see
> if that user account shows with user right to logon as a service or not. I
> would also run the command ntrights -u username -r SeDenyServiceLogonRight
> just in case but use administrators, users, and everyone in place of
> username in case any of those groups have deny logon as a service user right
> which XP Pro does not have as a default but I don't know what they did for
> that user right in XP Home. A deny user right overrides the corresponding
> allow user right. --- Steve
>
> http://www.somarsoft.com/ --- link to dumpsec


Sorry it took me so long to get back to this, the wife had to have a kidney
stone broken up and she take precedence.

Any way I followed your suggestion about ntrights, but that did not help.
The following link is to a screenshot of the dumpsec > rights dump screen.

Not knowing what I am looking for, except I did not see
SeDenyServiceLogonRight listed, I think every thing is as it should be.
Yes/No??

I am beginning to think I should just find a reasonably priced copy of Pro
and install it. Unless you can think of something else, that would be
greatly appreciated I don't want to go through the hassle of reinstalling
all of my programs.

Thanks for the help, so far.

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