Using XP Pro, SP3 and working from the command line

I did a recursive text search in files (grep) and received the
following message:
Cannot change to CardSpace

Using dir /s /ah I found it here
C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\
Application Data\Microsoft\CardSpace

However after changing to that Microsoft directory a
cd CardSpace
results in this message
Access is denied.

Looking at it with another tool I found two hidden directories,
CardSpace with attributes of directory and hidden
and Feeds Cache with directory, hidden and system.
However I CAN change the directory to Feeds Cache.

I have never before found a directory on a drive to which I cannot
change. What is going on?

"ralphs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Using XP Pro, SP3 and working from the command line
>
> I did a recursive text search in files (grep) and received the
> following message:
> Cannot change to CardSpace
>
> Using dir /s /ah I found it here
> C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\
> Application Data\Microsoft\CardSpace
>
> However after changing to that Microsoft directory a
> cd CardSpace
> results in this message
> Access is denied.
>
> Looking at it with another tool I found two hidden directories,
> CardSpace with attributes of directory and hidden
> and Feeds Cache with directory, hidden and system.
> However I CAN change the directory to Feeds Cache.
>
> I have never before found a directory on a drive to which I cannot
> change. What is going on?
>

You need to seize ownership of this folder. Click Start / Help
and look for help on Ownerhisp if unsure how to do this.

"Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>> Using XP Pro, SP3 ...
>>
>> Using dir /s /ah I found it here
>> C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\
>> Application Data\Microsoft\CardSpace
>>
>> cd CardSpace
>> results in this message
>> Access is denied.
>> ...
>
> You need to seize ownership of this folder. Click Start / Help
> and look for help on Ownerhisp if unsure how to do this.

I am uncomfortable with that solution. The way it says to do it is to drag
it into another directory, essentially doing this (line wrapped for
readabillity)

move
"C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\CardSpace"
"C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\."

That changes the path for whatever program might use the CardSpace
directory. I don't remember before Windows 386, but at least from that
point changes in OS-installed paths tend to make Microsoft programs fail.
It also leaves the question of why I simultaneously have full control of the
directory except for an inability to access its contents other than by
moving it where everybody has access.

Do you know of a way that I might give myself access with another method
(perhaps by using the ACL)?

"ralphs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Using XP Pro, SP3 and working from the command line
>
> I did a recursive text search in files (grep) and received the
> following message:
> Cannot change to CardSpace
>
> Using dir /s /ah I found it here
> C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\
> Application Data\Microsoft\CardSpace
>
> However after changing to that Microsoft directory a
> cd CardSpace
> results in this message
> Access is denied.

What are the permissions for the user looking, and did Ralph make the folder
private?

"ralphs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>> Using XP Pro, SP3 ...
>>>
>>> Using dir /s /ah I found it here
>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\
>>> Application Data\Microsoft\CardSpace
>>>
>>> cd CardSpace
>>> results in this message
>>> Access is denied.
>>> ...
>>
>> You need to seize ownership of this folder. Click Start / Help
>> and look for help on Ownerhisp if unsure how to do this.
>
> I am uncomfortable with that solution. The way it says to do it is to
> drag it into another directory, essentially doing this (line wrapped for
> readabillity)
>
> move
> "C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Microsoft\CardSpace"
> "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\."
>
> That changes the path for whatever program might use the CardSpace
> directory. I don't remember before Windows 386, but at least from that
> point changes in OS-installed paths tend to make Microsoft programs fail.
> It also leaves the question of why I simultaneously have full control of
> the directory except for an inability to access its contents other than by
> moving it where everybody has access.
>
> Do you know of a way that I might give myself access with another method
> (perhaps by using the ACL)?
>
>

What you say is incorrect. Seizing ownership of a folder
does NOT involve dragging a folder into another folder.
I recommend you have another look. If you still think that
dragging is involved then please quote that phrase.

"Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
> What you say is incorrect. Seizing ownership of a folder
> does NOT involve dragging a folder into another folder.
> I recommend you have another look. If you still think that
> dragging is involved then please quote that phrase.

Yes, you are correct.

I was working from the command line and denied access there. When I went
into Windows Explorer I never looked at the right pane . Windows Explorer
does show the files in the CardSpace directory. Right clicking on CardSpace
and selecting Properties|Sharing gets this:

To share this folder with other users of this computer
only, drag it to the <ul>Shared Documents</ul> folder.

Clicking the underlined link gets to the directory I mentioned.

However from the command line it is not accessable as you can see below

C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft>cd
cardspace
Access is denied.

C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft>

"bw" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> What are the permissions for the user looking, and did Ralph make the
> folder private?

I am Ralph. User is an Administrator and no specific permissions have ever
been given or removed on this machine. The folder has never been noticed
beflre let alone made private.

"ralphs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "bw" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> What are the permissions for the user looking, and did Ralph make the
>> folder private?
>
> I am Ralph. User is an Administrator and no specific permissions have ever
> been given or removed on this machine. The folder has never been noticed
> beflre let alone made private.
>

How about attrib-rash CardSpace /S /D

"ralphs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> What you say is incorrect. Seizing ownership of a folder
>> does NOT involve dragging a folder into another folder.
>> I recommend you have another look. If you still think that
>> dragging is involved then please quote that phrase.
>
> Yes, you are correct.
>
> I was working from the command line and denied access there. When I went
> into Windows Explorer I never looked at the right pane . Windows Explorer
> does show the files in the CardSpace directory. Right clicking on
> CardSpace and selecting Properties|Sharing gets this:
>
> To share this folder with other users of this computer
> only, drag it to the <ul>Shared Documents</ul> folder.
>
> Clicking the underlined link gets to the directory I mentioned.
>
> However from the command line it is not accessable as you can see below
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Microsoft>cd cardspace
> Access is denied.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Ralph\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft>

You still need to seize ownership of the "Cardspace" folder - there
is no way around this one.

Last time i saw some thing like Cardspace on my system is only when i
installed the Microsoft Dot NET framework 3.5.

"ralphs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "bw" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> What are the permissions for the user looking, and did Ralph make the
>> folder private?
>
> I am Ralph. User is an Administrator and no specific permissions have ever
> been given or removed on this machine. The folder has never been noticed
> beflre let alone made private.
>
>