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Can't access W2K shares after approx 24 hours

 
 
news.microsoft.com
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      2nd Jul 2004
Hi

I have couple of WinXP Pro pcs, connected to W2K Server.

Just reinstalled W2K server (with AD) recently due to HDD crash.

Now I find after approx 24 hours the WinXP pc's don't have permission to
access the shared directories on W2K server. When they login to the domain
they have permissions and no problems.

However after 24 hours or so (not sure exactly how long - seems to be
overnight some time this hapens) all the WinXP pc's can't access the shares.
They can see the domain + W2K server in 'Microsoft Widonws Network' in
windows explorer however don't have permission to view the shares. When I
clikc the shared directory, a popu box asks for username + password, but I'm
logged into the domain as Administrator and have max possible rights.

Any clue to this weird problem please?

Thanks
Harry


 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
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      2nd Jul 2004
news.microsoft.com wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have couple of WinXP Pro pcs, connected to W2K Server.
>
> Just reinstalled W2K server (with AD) recently due to HDD crash.
>
> Now I find after approx 24 hours the WinXP pc's don't have permission
> to access the shared directories on W2K server. When they login to
> the domain they have permissions and no problems.
>
> However after 24 hours or so (not sure exactly how long - seems to be
> overnight some time this hapens) all the WinXP pc's can't access the
> shares. They can see the domain + W2K server in 'Microsoft Widonws
> Network' in windows explorer however don't have permission to view
> the shares. When I clikc the shared directory, a popu box asks for
> username + password, but I'm logged into the domain as Administrator
> and have max possible rights.
>
> Any clue to this weird problem please?
>
> Thanks
> Harry


My first question is, why aren't all your users logging out when they leave
at the end of the day? They should be!

Second - have you seen
http://support.microsoft.com/default...EN-US;Q138365&


 
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harry
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      2nd Jul 2004
I'll try that now

Thank you!


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> news.microsoft.com wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have couple of WinXP Pro pcs, connected to W2K Server.
> >
> > Just reinstalled W2K server (with AD) recently due to HDD crash.
> >
> > Now I find after approx 24 hours the WinXP pc's don't have permission
> > to access the shared directories on W2K server. When they login to
> > the domain they have permissions and no problems.
> >
> > However after 24 hours or so (not sure exactly how long - seems to be
> > overnight some time this hapens) all the WinXP pc's can't access the
> > shares. They can see the domain + W2K server in 'Microsoft Widonws
> > Network' in windows explorer however don't have permission to view
> > the shares. When I clikc the shared directory, a popu box asks for
> > username + password, but I'm logged into the domain as Administrator
> > and have max possible rights.
> >
> > Any clue to this weird problem please?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Harry

>
> My first question is, why aren't all your users logging out when they

leave
> at the end of the day? They should be!
>
> Second - have you seen
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...EN-US;Q138365&
>
>



 
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Steven L Umbach
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      2nd Jul 2004
When you reinstalled, did you rebuild the domain or was this an additional domain
controller?? The proper way to reinstall a dead dc is to restore via Directory
Services restore Mode from a backup that includes the System State. I would run
netdiag and dcdiag on your domain controller looking for configuration problems and
run netdiag on one of those clients next time it "disconnects" to see if it reports
errors such as failed tests. Dns misconfiguration is the usual culprit in that the
domain controller needs to point to itself or the pdc fsmo as it's only preferred dns
server and the domain clients need to point only to AD domain controllers running dns
for the domain [they all do by default in W2K]. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3B291382
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;301423 -- how to install
netdiag and dcdiag. Same goes for netdiag on non servers.

"news.microsoft.com" <harry@nospam> wrote in message
news:%23Qn6%23g$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
>
> I have couple of WinXP Pro pcs, connected to W2K Server.
>
> Just reinstalled W2K server (with AD) recently due to HDD crash.
>
> Now I find after approx 24 hours the WinXP pc's don't have permission to
> access the shared directories on W2K server. When they login to the domain
> they have permissions and no problems.
>
> However after 24 hours or so (not sure exactly how long - seems to be
> overnight some time this hapens) all the WinXP pc's can't access the shares.
> They can see the domain + W2K server in 'Microsoft Widonws Network' in
> windows explorer however don't have permission to view the shares. When I
> clikc the shared directory, a popu box asks for username + password, but I'm
> logged into the domain as Administrator and have max possible rights.
>
> Any clue to this weird problem please?
>
> Thanks
> Harry
>
>



 
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harry
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      3rd Jul 2004
if the autodiconnect doesn't solve it I'll check out detdiag & dcdiag.

Thanks for your help.


"Steven L Umbach" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:x2hFc.14312$IQ4.4966@attbi_s02...
> When you reinstalled, did you rebuild the domain or was this an additional

domain
> controller?? The proper way to reinstall a dead dc is to restore via

Directory
> Services restore Mode from a backup that includes the System State. I

would run
> netdiag and dcdiag on your domain controller looking for configuration

problems and
> run netdiag on one of those clients next time it "disconnects" to see if

it reports
> errors such as failed tests. Dns misconfiguration is the usual culprit in

that the
> domain controller needs to point to itself or the pdc fsmo as it's only

preferred dns
> server and the domain clients need to point only to AD domain controllers

running dns
> for the domain [they all do by default in W2K]. --- Steve
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3B291382
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;301423 -- how to

install
> netdiag and dcdiag. Same goes for netdiag on non servers.
>
> "news.microsoft.com" <harry@nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23Qn6%23g$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi
> >
> > I have couple of WinXP Pro pcs, connected to W2K Server.
> >
> > Just reinstalled W2K server (with AD) recently due to HDD crash.
> >
> > Now I find after approx 24 hours the WinXP pc's don't have permission to
> > access the shared directories on W2K server. When they login to the

domain
> > they have permissions and no problems.
> >
> > However after 24 hours or so (not sure exactly how long - seems to be
> > overnight some time this hapens) all the WinXP pc's can't access the

shares.
> > They can see the domain + W2K server in 'Microsoft Widonws Network' in
> > windows explorer however don't have permission to view the shares. When

I
> > clikc the shared directory, a popu box asks for username + password, but

I'm
> > logged into the domain as Administrator and have max possible rights.
> >
> > Any clue to this weird problem please?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Harry
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Roger Abell
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      3rd Jul 2004
You are best off checking your DNS support, rather than
tweaking what may be one symptom. If it is invalid DNS
support you will sooner than later need to get this fixed.

--
Roger Abell
Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
"harry" <harry@nospam> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> if the autodiconnect doesn't solve it I'll check out detdiag & dcdiag.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
> "Steven L Umbach" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:x2hFc.14312$IQ4.4966@attbi_s02...
> > When you reinstalled, did you rebuild the domain or was this an

additional
> domain
> > controller?? The proper way to reinstall a dead dc is to restore via

> Directory
> > Services restore Mode from a backup that includes the System State. I

> would run
> > netdiag and dcdiag on your domain controller looking for configuration

> problems and
> > run netdiag on one of those clients next time it "disconnects" to see if

> it reports
> > errors such as failed tests. Dns misconfiguration is the usual culprit

in
> that the
> > domain controller needs to point to itself or the pdc fsmo as it's only

> preferred dns
> > server and the domain clients need to point only to AD domain

controllers
> running dns
> > for the domain [they all do by default in W2K]. --- Steve
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3B291382
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;301423 -- how

to
> install
> > netdiag and dcdiag. Same goes for netdiag on non servers.
> >
> > "news.microsoft.com" <harry@nospam> wrote in message
> > news:%23Qn6%23g$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have couple of WinXP Pro pcs, connected to W2K Server.
> > >
> > > Just reinstalled W2K server (with AD) recently due to HDD crash.
> > >
> > > Now I find after approx 24 hours the WinXP pc's don't have permission

to
> > > access the shared directories on W2K server. When they login to the

> domain
> > > they have permissions and no problems.
> > >
> > > However after 24 hours or so (not sure exactly how long - seems to be
> > > overnight some time this hapens) all the WinXP pc's can't access the

> shares.
> > > They can see the domain + W2K server in 'Microsoft Widonws Network' in
> > > windows explorer however don't have permission to view the shares.

When
> I
> > > clikc the shared directory, a popu box asks for username + password,

but
> I'm
> > > logged into the domain as Administrator and have max possible rights.
> > >
> > > Any clue to this weird problem please?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Harry
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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harry
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      4th Jul 2004
Thanks

It appears autodisconnect may not be the problem after all since it is set
at 65,535 which is in fact longer than the actual workstation timeouts (and
for some reason the server resets autodisconect itself to 65,535
automatically form time to time even though I set it to 0xffffffff from the
command line).

I'll look at DSN now.


"Roger Abell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You are best off checking your DNS support, rather than
> tweaking what may be one symptom. If it is invalid DNS
> support you will sooner than later need to get this fixed.
>
> --
> Roger Abell
> Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> "harry" <harry@nospam> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > if the autodiconnect doesn't solve it I'll check out detdiag & dcdiag.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> > "Steven L Umbach" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:x2hFc.14312$IQ4.4966@attbi_s02...
> > > When you reinstalled, did you rebuild the domain or was this an

> additional
> > domain
> > > controller?? The proper way to reinstall a dead dc is to restore via

> > Directory
> > > Services restore Mode from a backup that includes the System State. I

> > would run
> > > netdiag and dcdiag on your domain controller looking for configuration

> > problems and
> > > run netdiag on one of those clients next time it "disconnects" to see

if
> > it reports
> > > errors such as failed tests. Dns misconfiguration is the usual culprit

> in
> > that the
> > > domain controller needs to point to itself or the pdc fsmo as it's

only
> > preferred dns
> > > server and the domain clients need to point only to AD domain

> controllers
> > running dns
> > > for the domain [they all do by default in W2K]. --- Steve
> > >
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3B291382
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;301423 -- how

> to
> > install
> > > netdiag and dcdiag. Same goes for netdiag on non servers.
> > >
> > > "news.microsoft.com" <harry@nospam> wrote in message
> > > news:%23Qn6%23g$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I have couple of WinXP Pro pcs, connected to W2K Server.
> > > >
> > > > Just reinstalled W2K server (with AD) recently due to HDD crash.
> > > >
> > > > Now I find after approx 24 hours the WinXP pc's don't have

permission
> to
> > > > access the shared directories on W2K server. When they login to the

> > domain
> > > > they have permissions and no problems.
> > > >
> > > > However after 24 hours or so (not sure exactly how long - seems to

be
> > > > overnight some time this hapens) all the WinXP pc's can't access the

> > shares.
> > > > They can see the domain + W2K server in 'Microsoft Widonws Network'

in
> > > > windows explorer however don't have permission to view the shares.

> When
> > I
> > > > clikc the shared directory, a popu box asks for username + password,

> but
> > I'm
> > > > logged into the domain as Administrator and have max possible

rights.
> > > >
> > > > Any clue to this weird problem please?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Harry
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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