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Kent
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      4th Jul 2003
I am having the same problems as below and wondered if
anyone has found a solution????

Thanks,
Kent

>-----Original Message-----
>Can't access network!
>
>
>Hello,
>
>I have a desktop and a laptop; both running Win XP Home

Edition. The
>desktop is wired to my netgear router and my laptop has

a wireless
>connection. I had my desktop connected first, and then

I bought the
>laptop. I believe the laptop is connected to the

internet through the
>desktop, (and I specified so in the network connection

wizard). Each
>computer can access the internet, but the laptop can

only if the
>desktop is connected (this is not the problem). My

laptop can ping
>itself by its IP address, and by name. My laptop can

ping the router.
>When I try to ping my desktop from my laptop, I get that

the request
>timed out. When I try to ping my desktop by its name

(Clunker), I get
>this message:
>
>C:\Documents and Settings\Miriam>ping clunker
>Ping request could not find host clunker. Please check

the name and
>try again.
>
>When I try to ping my desktop from my desktop by IP

address (I'm not
>sure what it is, so I tried these two as they were

listed), I get
>this:
>
>C:\Documents and Settings\default>ping 192.168.0.4
>
>Pinging 192.168.0.4 with 32 bytes of data:
>
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>
>Ping statistics for 192.168.0.4:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100%

loss),
>
>C:\Documents and Settings\default>ping 192.168.0.2
>
>Pinging 192.168.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:
>
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>
>Ping statistics for 192.168.0.2:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100%

loss),
>
>C:\Documents and Settings\default>ping 192.168.0.1
>
>Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
>
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
>
>Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100%

loss),
>
>
>When I type "net view" from my laptop, I get this

message:
>
>C:\Documents and Settings\Miriam>net view
>System error 6118 has occurred.
>
>The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently

available
>
>TCP/IP is enabled on both computers.
>
>I have a Zonealarm firewall installed on my desktop, but

I have tried
>disabling it without resolving the problem. My problem,

like many
>other people, is that when I click on "My Network

Places" on my
>desktop, I get the following message:
>
>Mshome is not accessible. you might not have permission

to use this
>network
>resource. Contact the administrator of this server to

find out if you
>have
>access permissions.
>
>The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently

available
>
>
>When I click on "My Network Places" on my laptop, both

computers had
>been listed up to today (but still couldn't connect).

today, I got
>the same message as above.
>
>
>When I type ipconfig /all on my laptop, this is what I

get (Please
>note that the stars represent the information I thought

I shouldn't
>give out for security reasons; please let me know if

this isn't the
>case):
>C:\Documents and Settings\Miriam>ipconfig /all
>
>Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : maude
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media

disconnected
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920

Integrated Fast
>Ethernet
>Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : ***********
>
>Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : ***********
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell

TrueMobile 1180
>Internal 802.11
>b Mini PCI Card
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : ***********
> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.172.3.8
> 207.172.3.9
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday,

June 07, 2003
>8:04:18 PM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday,

January 18, 2038
>11:14:07 PM
>
>Typing ipconfig /all on my desktop brings these results:
>
>C:\Documents and Settings\default>ipconfig
>
>Windows IP Configuration
>
>
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 196.168.0.4
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media

disconnected
>
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : ***********
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
>
>C:\Documents and Settings\default>ipconfig /all
>
>Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CLUNKER
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN Network

Driver
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : ***********
> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 196.168.0.4
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media

disconnected
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom

4211 iLine10(tm)
>Network Ad
>apter
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : ***********
>
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : ***********
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys

LNE100TX Fast
>Ethernet
>Adapt
>er(LNE100TX v4)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : ***********
> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.172.3.8
> 207.172.3.9
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday,

June 07, 2003
>8:12:10
>PM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday,

January 18, 2038
>11:14:07 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>After reading here several times about the Computer

Browser, I decided
>to
>check it out. It turns out that it is stopped on my

desktop. It is
>started
>on my laptop. I tried disabling on my laptop and trying

to start on
>my
>desktop, but the request keeps timing out. Here are

some event log
>errors
>associated with it:
>
>EVENT ID: 7000
>The Computer Browser service failed to start due to the

following
>error:
>The service did not respond to the start or control

request in a
>timely
>fashion.
>
>EVENT ID: 7011
>Timeout (30000 milliseconds) waiting for a transaction

response from
>the
>ShellHWDetection service.
>.
>

 
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      21st Oct 2005
Why does your laptop 'connect' through your desktop?

If you have a wireless/wired router, then the router should be the only box responsible for internet connection to either. When you state "This is not the problem", well.. you're both right and wrong.

Once your laptop can hit the net without needing your desktop, then im sure we'll be at least 1 step closer.

It appears that your laptop is indeed 'wired' in, through your desktop. It appears it is using the 192.168.0.x local addressing block to do it, on subnet 255.255.255.0 . Now, Your router also chooses to use the same scheme. This isn't good at all, and shouldn't work what-so-ever (hence the reason for subnetting).

Please, let me know EXACTLY how everything is setup physically. That is, what method you use to route the laptop through the desktop (i.e. 2nd network card in desktop, plugged into a wireless access point).

Here is what I'd do:

If your router doesn't have wireless capability, then buy an access point, which can plug into one of the wired ports in the router (thus, making it a make-shift wireless router as well). From that point, I'd just re-configure the laptops wireless connection to a normal/network connection, and the router can pass you the IP , the same way the desktop got its.

Best setup would be:
Wall Jack to
DSL/Cable Modem to
Router to
- Laptop PC, VIA Access Point plugged into router.
- Desktop PC, VIA Wire

Once you got an access point setup on one of the ports, Using it is exactly the same, as if it were a wired connection. The only down-side to this is wireless security, which you can choose to lock down,via router settings (like MAC filtering).

If you really want to route through the desktop PC, however, You would want to use Internet Connection Sharing, based off a connection between laptop/desktop, but this is also a horrible solution, if the previously mentioned solutions is viable.

To sum up: Let me know , physically, what you're dealing with (network cards/routers/how they connect) and what you're trying to accomplish (i.e. File/Print sharing, etc), and we'll work it out.

- Zhoul

P.S. If you want to give me a ring, shoot me an e-mail to (E-Mail Removed) (remove the NOSPAM portion), and we can determine the best time for it.

 
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