This printer is disappointing in the fact that printing out in standard mode,
dark areas of photos print out banded. I have complained to Canon about his
under warranty and all parts have basically been replaced then the printer
was replaced only to find the same problem happening. This seems to be a
feature of the printer! I actually took the matter up with Canon and whilst
they didnt deny there was a problem they told me it worked find if print was
set to Fine. They tried to tell me this did not use any more ink which I
dispute but its difficult to test without wasting ink on test prints.

After Canons attitude I would never by another Canon product. I purchased
this printer on
Canons reputation alone and I am sorry I did. I should have purchased a cheap
$50 printer and I am sure it would have printed just as good.

I now find out I have to purchase genuine ink and genuine paper. I tried
printing on Kodak paper and the paper fails to absorbe the ink. Something to
do about the type of ink used. So I also have to throw away my paper supplies!


After all my time wasted I asked Canon to refund my money which they refused.
I will put this down to one of lifes experiences.

Has anyone else experienced issues with this disappointing printer?

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"therowdy via HWKB.com" <u31658@uwe> wrote in message
news:6dab1623bae36@uwe...
> This printer is disappointing in the fact that printing out in standard
> mode,
> dark areas of photos print out banded. I have complained to Canon about
> his
> under warranty and all parts have basically been replaced then the printer
> was replaced only to find the same problem happening. This seems to be a
> feature of the printer! I actually took the matter up with Canon and
> whilst
> they didnt deny there was a problem they told me it worked find if print
> was
> set to Fine. They tried to tell me this did not use any more ink which I
> dispute but its difficult to test without wasting ink on test prints.
>
> After Canons attitude I would never by another Canon product. I purchased
> this printer on
> Canons reputation alone and I am sorry I did. I should have purchased a
> cheap
> $50 printer and I am sure it would have printed just as good.
>
> I now find out I have to purchase genuine ink and genuine paper. I tried
> printing on Kodak paper and the paper fails to absorbe the ink. Something
> to
> do about the type of ink used. So I also have to throw away my paper
> supplies!
>
>
> After all my time wasted I asked Canon to refund my money which they
> refused.
> I will put this down to one of lifes experiences.
>
> Has anyone else experienced issues with this disappointing printer?
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.hwkb.com
>
I've had great experience with several Canon printers. Was the printer
purchased new? Did you use if frequently or did you let it sit unused for
long periods of time? All inkjet printers can get clogs if left to sit
without use. That can be one cause of banding. Are you setting the paper
choice to the type of paper you are using? Have you used aftermarket
prefilled cartridges? Some of them are very poor, and if they don't feed
properly they will cause banding and possibly also damage the printhead.
Banding is not a "feature of these printers", and careful analysis and
corrective measures can often solve the problem.

Although Ron Baird, a Kodak rep, does respond when Canon users complain
about using Kodak paper, I must say that I had the same problem as you, even
after downloading Kodak software and using their recommended settings as
suggested by Mr. Baird. You are not required to use genuine Canon ink and
paper. Many of use refill our cartridges with aftermarket inks that are
formulated for these printers and print on several different brands of
paper. I use Costco's Kirkland glossy photo paper and MIS bulk inks and get
excellent results. I've also used Epson glossy photo paper and Staples
double sided matte paper with very good results.

"therowdy via HWKB.com" <u31658@uwe> wrote in message
news:6dab1623bae36@uwe...
> This printer is disappointing in the fact that printing out in standard
> mode,
> dark areas of photos print out banded. I have complained to Canon about
> his
> under warranty and all parts have basically been replaced then the printer
> was replaced only to find the same problem happening. This seems to be a
> feature of the printer! I actually took the matter up with Canon and
> whilst
> they didnt deny there was a problem they told me it worked find if print
> was
> set to Fine. They tried to tell me this did not use any more ink which I
> dispute but its difficult to test without wasting ink on test prints.
>
> After Canons attitude I would never by another Canon product. I purchased
> this printer on
> Canons reputation alone and I am sorry I did. I should have purchased a
> cheap
> $50 printer and I am sure it would have printed just as good.
>
> I now find out I have to purchase genuine ink and genuine paper. I tried
> printing on Kodak paper and the paper fails to absorbe the ink. Something
> to
> do about the type of ink used. So I also have to throw away my paper
> supplies!
>
>
> After all my time wasted I asked Canon to refund my money which they
> refused.
> I will put this down to one of lifes experiences.
>
> Has anyone else experienced issues with this disappointing printer?
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.hwkb.com


You asked Canon Techs about your problem, they supplied what seems like a
reasonable answer, but you don't want to try it.

You are now complaining that your Canon will not print well on Kodak paper.

You do know, don't you,.that there are two distinct types of photo papers,
and that the Kodak is not the correct type for your Canon.

Ignorance is not so blissful after all.

Roy G

"Burt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0DOzh.6727$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "therowdy via HWKB.com" <u31658@uwe> wrote in message
> news:6dab1623bae36@uwe...
>> This printer is disappointing in the fact that printing out in standard
>> mode,
>> dark areas of photos print out banded. I have complained to Canon about
>> his
>> under warranty and all parts have basically been replaced then the
>> printer
>> was replaced only to find the same problem happening. This seems to be a
>> feature of the printer! I actually took the matter up with Canon and
>> whilst
>> they didnt deny there was a problem they told me it worked find if print
>> was
>> set to Fine. They tried to tell me this did not use any more ink which I
>> dispute but its difficult to test without wasting ink on test prints.
>>
>> After Canons attitude I would never by another Canon product. I purchased
>> this printer on
>> Canons reputation alone and I am sorry I did. I should have purchased a
>> cheap
>> $50 printer and I am sure it would have printed just as good.
>>
>> I now find out I have to purchase genuine ink and genuine paper. I tried
>> printing on Kodak paper and the paper fails to absorbe the ink. Something
>> to
>> do about the type of ink used. So I also have to throw away my paper
>> supplies!
>>
>>
>> After all my time wasted I asked Canon to refund my money which they
>> refused.
>> I will put this down to one of lifes experiences.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced issues with this disappointing printer?
>>
>> --
>> Message posted via http://www.hwkb.com
>>
> I've had great experience with several Canon printers. Was the printer
> purchased new? Did you use if frequently or did you let it sit unused for
> long periods of time? All inkjet printers can get clogs if left to sit
> without use. That can be one cause of banding. Are you setting the paper
> choice to the type of paper you are using? Have you used aftermarket
> prefilled cartridges? Some of them are very poor, and if they don't feed
> properly they will cause banding and possibly also damage the printhead.
> Banding is not a "feature of these printers", and careful analysis and
> corrective measures can often solve the problem.
>
> Although Ron Baird, a Kodak rep, does respond when Canon users complain
> about using Kodak paper, I must say that I had the same problem as you,
> even after downloading Kodak software and using their recommended settings
> as suggested by Mr. Baird. You are not required to use genuine Canon ink
> and paper. Many of use refill our cartridges with aftermarket inks that
> are formulated for these printers and print on several different brands of
> paper. I use Costco's Kirkland glossy photo paper and MIS bulk inks and
> get excellent results. I've also used Epson glossy photo paper and
> Staples double sided matte paper with very good results.
>
An additional comment - the ip4200 printer doesn't have easily used
aftermarket cartridges as Canon has added a computer chip to the carts to
prevent the use of aftermarket ink carts. There are some prefilled
aftermarket carts but you have to transplant the chip from the Canon cart to
the aftermarket cart and you will then get a message that you are going to
void your warranty by not replacing the empty with a new Canon genuine cart.
You are right that Canon is forcing the consumer to use their own inks, but
there is a way around it. Refilling the carts works fine, but you will void
your warranty for problems that might occur with the printhead, and you will
also lose the ink monitoring function and will have to visually monitor ink
levels. I would still buy the ip4300 (upgrade to the one you have) but
would refill the carts to save tons of money.

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:48:50 GMT, "therowdy via HWKB.com" <u31658@uwe>
wrote:

>This printer is disappointing in the fact that printing out in standard mode,
>dark areas of photos print out banded. I have complained to Canon about his
>under warranty and all parts have basically been replaced then the printer
>was replaced only to find the same problem happening. This seems to be a
>feature of the printer! I actually took the matter up with Canon and whilst
>they didnt deny there was a problem they told me it worked find if print was
>set to Fine. They tried to tell me this did not use any more ink which I
>dispute but its difficult to test without wasting ink on test prints.
>
>After Canons attitude I would never by another Canon product. I purchased
>this printer on
>Canons reputation alone and I am sorry I did. I should have purchased a cheap
>$50 printer and I am sure it would have printed just as good.
>
>I now find out I have to purchase genuine ink and genuine paper. I tried
>printing on Kodak paper and the paper fails to absorbe the ink. Something to
>do about the type of ink used. So I also have to throw away my paper supplies!
>
>
>After all my time wasted I asked Canon to refund my money which they refused.
>I will put this down to one of lifes experiences.
>
>Has anyone else experienced issues with this disappointing printer?

I have a Canon IP4200 that prints excellent photos. I use Epson
Premium Glossy paper. I tried the Kodak paper and was not satisfied
with the results. I initially had problems with the printer and found
Canon technical service went above and beyond my expectations. You do
not have to use Canon ink or paper. For photos I prefer to use Canon
ink because of its fade resistance, but I use MIS ink for non critical
printing with no problems. By the way the IP4200 cost me $50 when
new.

While it seems obvious that this post is a troll, if you can stop whining
for a bit it might be reasonable to ask WHY anyone would expect to use the
normal quality setting on photo paper and get good results. The solution
offered is a very reasonable one.
As to the use of non-Canon ink, there's no reason you can't do that as long
as it's good quality ink, and many are not.

The IP4300 is a terrific printer by all accounts, and as there were some
problems with the IP4200, perhaps you should ask for an IP4300 in
replacement. Worth a try, but the attitude expressed here will not lend
itself to getting any favors from Canon.


"therowdy via HWKB.com" <u31658@uwe> wrote in message
news:6dab1623bae36@uwe...
> This printer is disappointing in the fact that printing out in standard
mode,
> dark areas of photos print out banded. I have complained to Canon about
his
> under warranty and all parts have basically been replaced then the printer
> was replaced only to find the same problem happening. This seems to be a
> feature of the printer! I actually took the matter up with Canon and
whilst
> they didnt deny there was a problem they told me it worked find if print
was
> set to Fine. They tried to tell me this did not use any more ink which I
> dispute but its difficult to test without wasting ink on test prints.
>
> After Canons attitude I would never by another Canon product. I purchased
> this printer on
> Canons reputation alone and I am sorry I did. I should have purchased a
cheap
> $50 printer and I am sure it would have printed just as good.
>
> I now find out I have to purchase genuine ink and genuine paper. I tried
> printing on Kodak paper and the paper fails to absorbe the ink. Something
to
> do about the type of ink used. So I also have to throw away my paper
supplies!
>
>
> After all my time wasted I asked Canon to refund my money which they
refused.
> I will put this down to one of lifes experiences.
>
> Has anyone else experienced issues with this disappointing printer?
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.hwkb.com
>

therowdy via HWKB.com wrote:
> This printer is disappointing in the fact that printing out in standard mode,
> dark areas of photos print out banded. I have complained to Canon about his
> under warranty and all parts have basically been replaced then the printer
> was replaced only to find the same problem happening. This seems to be a
> feature of the printer! I actually took the matter up with Canon and whilst
> they didnt deny there was a problem they told me it worked find if print was
> set to Fine. They tried to tell me this did not use any more ink which I
> dispute but its difficult to test without wasting ink on test prints.
>

You should be using the highest setting for photos anyway to get the
very best results using Canon OEM ink. If you are not interested in the
best results then maybe a Lexmark would be a good choice for your needs.
> After Canons attitude I would never by another Canon product. I purchased
> this printer on
> Canons reputation alone and I am sorry I did. I should have purchased a cheap
> $50 printer and I am sure it would have printed just as good.
>
> I now find out I have to purchase genuine ink and genuine paper.

You do need to use Canon Factory ink to get the best results and not
ruin your printer but Canon will even tell you that you do not need to
use their paper. They will even tell you that Epson Premium Glossy
works just fine. Additionally, I use Epson Heaveyweight Matte and
Ilford Classic Pearl (slow drying - 24 hours) but more resistent to
fading than Ilford Smooth Instant Dry Pearl.

So I do not know where you get your information from.
> I tried
> printing on Kodak paper and the paper fails to absorbe the ink.

Kodak paper does not work well with Canon printers and I would never
consider it.
> Something to
> do about the type of ink used. So I also have to throw away my paper supplies!
>
>
> After all my time wasted I asked Canon to refund my money which they refused.
>

Good. There is nothing wrong with your printer

Use Canon OEM ink
Canon Photo Paper Pro
Ilford Classic Pearl
Epson Premium Glossy
Epson Heavyweight Matte

I am sure there are others but this is a good choice.
> I will put this down to one of lifes experiences.
>
> Has anyone else experienced issues with this disappointing printer?
>

The printer is terrific. But the IP4300 is even better.

Roy G wrote:
> "therowdy via HWKB.com" <u31658@uwe> wrote in message
> news:6dab1623bae36@uwe...
>
>> This printer is disappointing in the fact that printing out in standard
>> mode,
>> dark areas of photos print out banded. I have complained to Canon about
>> his
>> under warranty and all parts have basically been replaced then the printer
>> was replaced only to find the same problem happening. This seems to be a
>> feature of the printer! I actually took the matter up with Canon and
>> whilst
>> they didnt deny there was a problem they told me it worked find if print
>> was
>> set to Fine. They tried to tell me this did not use any more ink which I
>> dispute but its difficult to test without wasting ink on test prints.
>>
>> After Canons attitude I would never by another Canon product. I purchased
>> this printer on
>> Canons reputation alone and I am sorry I did. I should have purchased a
>> cheap
>> $50 printer and I am sure it would have printed just as good.
>>
>> I now find out I have to purchase genuine ink and genuine paper. I tried
>> printing on Kodak paper and the paper fails to absorbe the ink. Something
>> to
>> do about the type of ink used. So I also have to throw away my paper
>> supplies!
>>
>>
>> After all my time wasted I asked Canon to refund my money which they
>> refused.
>> I will put this down to one of lifes experiences.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced issues with this disappointing printer?
>>
>> --
>> Message posted via http://www.hwkb.com
>>
>
>
> You asked Canon Techs about your problem, they supplied what seems like a
> reasonable answer, but you don't want to try it.
>
> You are now complaining that your Canon will not print well on Kodak paper.
>

He knows that. Kodak paper is one of the worst papers for Canon Printers
> You do know, don't you,.that there are two distinct types of photo papers,
> and that the Kodak is not the correct type for your Canon.
>
> Ignorance is not so blissful after all.
>
Oh Yeah
> Roy G
>
>
>

george wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:48:50 GMT, "therowdy via HWKB.com" <u31658@uwe>
> wrote:
>
>
>> This printer is disappointing in the fact that printing out in standard mode,
>> dark areas of photos print out banded. I have complained to Canon about his
>> under warranty and all parts have basically been replaced then the printer
>> was replaced only to find the same problem happening. This seems to be a
>> feature of the printer! I actually took the matter up with Canon and whilst
>> they didnt deny there was a problem they told me it worked find if print was
>> set to Fine. They tried to tell me this did not use any more ink which I
>> dispute but its difficult to test without wasting ink on test prints.
>>
>> After Canons attitude I would never by another Canon product. I purchased
>> this printer on
>> Canons reputation alone and I am sorry I did. I should have purchased a cheap
>> $50 printer and I am sure it would have printed just as good.
>>
>> I now find out I have to purchase genuine ink and genuine paper. I tried
>> printing on Kodak paper and the paper fails to absorbe the ink. Something to
>> do about the type of ink used. So I also have to throw away my paper supplies!
>>
>>
>> After all my time wasted I asked Canon to refund my money which they refused.
>> I will put this down to one of lifes experiences.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced issues with this disappointing printer?
>>
>
> I have a Canon IP4200 that prints excellent photos. I use Epson
> Premium Glossy paper. I tried the Kodak paper and was not satisfied
> with the results. I initially had problems with the printer and found
> Canon technical service went above and beyond my expectations. You do
> not have to use Canon ink or paper.

Wrongo Bongo

Correction

You do not have to use Canon Papers but you do have to use Canon ink.
> For photos I prefer to use Canon
> ink because of its fade resistance, but I use MIS ink for non critical
> printing with no problems.

Notice the word non critical


Case Closed
> By the way the IP4200 cost me $50 when
> new.
>

Dan G wrote:
> While it seems obvious that this post is a troll,
He is not a troll. He just like the majority of the posters here in this ng
> if you can stop whining
> for a bit it might be reasonable to ask WHY anyone would expect to use the
> normal quality setting on photo paper and get good results.
He never said he uses the normal quality setting since Canon does not
have one. He did say he is using the Standard quality setting.
> The solution
> offered is a very reasonable one.
> As to the use of non-Canon ink, there's no reason you can't do that as long
> as it's good quality ink, and many are not.
>

Nobody has even come close to approaching the new Canon formula. He is
better off using Canon OEM ink.
> The IP4300 is a terrific printer by all accounts, and as there were some
> problems with the IP4200, perhaps you should ask for an IP4300 in
> replacement. Worth a try, but the attitude expressed here will not lend
> itself to getting any favors from Canon.
>
>
> "therowdy via HWKB.com" <u31658@uwe> wrote in message
> news:6dab1623bae36@uwe...
>
>> This printer is disappointing in the fact that printing out in standard
>>
> mode,
>
>> dark areas of photos print out banded. I have complained to Canon about
>>
> his
>
>> under warranty and all parts have basically been replaced then the printer
>> was replaced only to find the same problem happening. This seems to be a
>> feature of the printer! I actually took the matter up with Canon and
>>
> whilst
>
>> they didnt deny there was a problem they told me it worked find if print
>>
> was
>
>> set to Fine. They tried to tell me this did not use any more ink which I
>> dispute but its difficult to test without wasting ink on test prints.
>>
>> After Canons attitude I would never by another Canon product. I purchased
>> this printer on
>> Canons reputation alone and I am sorry I did. I should have purchased a
>>
> cheap
>
>> $50 printer and I am sure it would have printed just as good.
>>
>> I now find out I have to purchase genuine ink and genuine paper. I tried
>> printing on Kodak paper and the paper fails to absorbe the ink. Something
>>
> to
>
>> do about the type of ink used. So I also have to throw away my paper
>>
> supplies!
>
>> After all my time wasted I asked Canon to refund my money which they
>>
> refused.
>
>> I will put this down to one of lifes experiences.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced issues with this disappointing printer?
>>
>> --
>> Message posted via http://www.hwkb.com
>>
>>
>
>
>