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Canon i550 nozzle clog problem

 
 
Scotter
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      1st Jul 2003
Every time I print I have to go into the maintenance menu and run a nozzle
clean. Has anyone determined a fix for this or why this may be happening?
Thanks!

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Bill Foster-KSC
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      1st Jul 2003
Scotter wrote:

>Every time I print I have to go into the maintenance menu and run a nozzle
>clean. Has anyone determined a fix for this or why this may be happening?


A friend has an i550 and I have an i850 - neither of us has had to do a
head cleaning since we bought the printers several months ago. I use
mine regularly, every few days at least, and my friend lets it sit for
over a week at times.

When you finish printing, the printer will "park" the heads in a rubber
housing that keeps the heads from drying.

Make sure you're not turning the printer off with a power bar or
anything else - the printer should be plugged into a live power outlet
at all times.

If that is not the problem, then perhaps you have a defective printer.
 
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Dave McFall
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      2nd Jul 2003
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:33:36 -0400, Bill Foster-KSC
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Scotter wrote:
>
>>Every time I print I have to go into the maintenance menu and run a nozzle
>>clean. Has anyone determined a fix for this or why this may be happening?

>
>A friend has an i550 and I have an i850 - neither of us has had to do a
>head cleaning since we bought the printers several months ago. I use
>mine regularly, every few days at least, and my friend lets it sit for
>over a week at times.
>
>When you finish printing, the printer will "park" the heads in a rubber
>housing that keeps the heads from drying.
>
>Make sure you're not turning the printer off with a power bar or
>anything else - the printer should be plugged into a live power outlet
>at all times.
>
>If that is not the problem, then perhaps you have a defective printer.


I, also, have an i550 which is operating beautifully (touch wood). I
would appreciate an explanation of why the unit should be left plugged
into a live outlet.

Thanks (remove nospam to reply).

Dave M
 
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shamanjp
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      2nd Jul 2003

> >Scotter wrote:


> >Make sure you're not turning the printer off with a power bar or
> >anything else - the printer should be plugged into a live power outlet
> >at all times.
> >
> >If that is not the problem, then perhaps you have a defective printer.

>
> I, also, have an i550 which is operating beautifully (touch wood). I
> would appreciate an explanation of why the unit should be left plugged
> into a live outlet.
>
> Thanks (remove nospam to reply).
>
> Dave M

If you turn the printer off by pressing the power button the printer will
make sure that the heads are parked so they won't dry out prior to powering
down. If power is disrupted by turning off a power strip it's possible the
printer may be caught with the heads not in the parked position and the
heads could dry and clog.
JP


 
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buck
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      2nd Jul 2003
In article <%0rMa.2215$Vb5.747
@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>, "shamanjp" <shamanjp
(nospam)@prodigy.net> says...
>
> > >Scotter wrote:

>
> > >Make sure you're not turning the printer off with a power bar or
> > >anything else - the printer should be plugged into a live power outlet
> > >at all times.
> > >
> > >If that is not the problem, then perhaps you have a defective printer.

> >
> > I, also, have an i550 which is operating beautifully (touch wood). I
> > would appreciate an explanation of why the unit should be left plugged
> > into a live outlet.
> >
> > Thanks (remove nospam to reply).
> >
> > Dave M

> If you turn the printer off by pressing the power button the printer will
> make sure that the heads are parked so they won't dry out prior to powering
> down. If power is disrupted by turning off a power strip it's possible the
> printer may be caught with the heads not in the parked position and the
> heads could dry and clog.
> JP
>
>
>


There are also some models which actually are keeping
track of the passage of time (even when powered down)
and will perform a quick "head clean cycle" before
printing if the firmware judges the cleaning is
required.

I had a 600 series Epson that would clog like crazy if
simply switched off on a power strip, but didn't clog
after I learned not to do this.

Considering the TINY ammount of power consumed by the
printer when its not printing, and the problems you can
get if you disconnect it, I recommend NOT DISCONNECTING
THE POWER FROM ANY INKJET PRINTER IF YOU DONT HAVE TO!!

For all but 2 of the printers that are connected to my
system (there are six connected) I dont even bother to
switch them off at all because the ONLY time any of them
give problems is after being off for an extended time.

One of the 2 that do get switched off is the Laser
printer (they draw a lot of juice and are designed to be
OFF when idle hence the "warm up" period built into
them) and an HP 7350 that has some kind of firmware bug
that causes it to "fall into a deep sleep" if it is left
on without being used for over an hour. The HP gets
powered down BEFORE the computer, otherwise it wont
respond to its own power switch (Im waiting to hear from
HP if this is a known bug or a defective unit its only a
few months old and has ALWAYS acted this way).

The other four units (HP 952c, HP1200 3in1, Canon S820,
Canon BJC 4550) NEVER get powered down, and (knock wood)
NEVER give clogging problems. All of these units get re-
inked by me with bulk ink (www.inksupply.com)designed
specifically for the printer series, and I print a LOT!!

During horse show season the old Canon prints from 40 to
50 small (4x6 or 3x5) PROOFS a day, After proofing the
S820 will print those 40 or 50 pix to what ever size is
needed. The HP 7350 does 40 or so 5x8 prints a day, the
HP 3in1 does duty as a copier/fax 2 or 3 times a week,
and the 952 c does a hundred or so pages a week of
text/graphics.

I dont think I see or hear more than 2 cleaning cycles a
week from the lot of them except for after a power
outage when they ALL do long head cleaning cycles on
power-up(3 to 5 hours without power after ANY type of
rain or thunderstorm is normal/average for my power
company)



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Larry Lynch
Mystic, Ct.
 
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Barrie Brozenske
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      3rd Jul 2003
In article <cbb3665bc9ff85abc3efd7627ee7cfb9@TeraNews>, (E-Mail Removed)
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> I dont think I see or hear more than 2 cleaning cycles a
> week from the lot of them except for after a power
> outage when they ALL do long head cleaning cycles on
> power-up(3 to 5 hours without power after ANY type of
> rain or thunderstorm is normal/average for my power
> company)
>
>

My canon s630 is used on our RV. AC power is usually shut off when not
used (it is from a battery powered inverter). I do notice the cleaning
cycles almost every time I use it. However, it can be several days
between uses. I am not particularly happy about the consumption of
colored ink in the cleaning cycles, as I print only gray scale....but I
did not find a B&W printer I wanted either.
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Wayne
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      3rd Jul 2003
> The other four units (HP 952c, HP1200 3in1, Canon S820,
> Canon BJC 4550) NEVER get powered down, and (knock wood)
> NEVER give clogging problems. All of these units get re-
> inked by me with bulk ink (www.inksupply.com)designed
> specifically for the printer series, and I print a LOT!!


Life of an inkjet with a mounted head (Canon, Epson) while using bulk
ink is said to be about 2-3 years. When fed with original inks, 5-6
years.

> During horse show season the old Canon prints from 40 to
> 50 small (4x6 or 3x5) PROOFS a day, After proofing the
> S820 will print those 40 or 50 pix to what ever size is
> needed. The HP 7350 does 40 or so 5x8 prints a day, the
> HP 3in1 does duty as a copier/fax 2 or 3 times a week,
> and the 952 c does a hundred or so pages a week of
> text/graphics.


40 5x8" prints on 7350 a day???
You have to change inks (refill) daily and the print quality probably
isn't good.

wayne
 
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buck
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      4th Jul 2003
In article <44f6873.0307030929.720fb7e8
@posting.google.com>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > The other four units (HP 952c, HP1200 3in1, Canon S820,
> > Canon BJC 4550) NEVER get powered down, and (knock wood)
> > NEVER give clogging problems. All of these units get re-
> > inked by me with bulk ink (www.inksupply.com)designed
> > specifically for the printer series, and I print a LOT!!

>
> Life of an inkjet with a mounted head (Canon, Epson) while using bulk
> ink is said to be about 2-3 years. When fed with original inks, 5-6
> years.
>
> > During horse show season the old Canon prints from 40 to
> > 50 small (4x6 or 3x5) PROOFS a day, After proofing the
> > S820 will print those 40 or 50 pix to what ever size is
> > needed. The HP 7350 does 40 or so 5x8 prints a day, the
> > HP 3in1 does duty as a copier/fax 2 or 3 times a week,
> > and the 952 c does a hundred or so pages a week of
> > text/graphics.

>
> 40 5x8" prints on 7350 a day???
> You have to change inks (refill) daily and the print quality probably
> isn't good.
>
> wayne
>

Correct on the refills (I keep several carts standing by
and rotate through them) incorrect on the quality..

I cant for the life of me figure why you think the
quality would suffer...I use the highest quality
settings, good paper (some Red Riverm some Printasia)and
the best damn ink money can buy AFAIK, from
www.inksupply.com (MIS Assosiates)
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Wayne
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      4th Jul 2003
> Correct on the refills (I keep several carts standing by
> and rotate through them) incorrect on the quality..


I assure you that I'm correct on the quality. Refilling cartidges with
integrated printhead (HP, Lexmark) won't give you the same results as
refilling cartidges with mounted printhead (Epson, Canon). There will
be a noticable loss in quality mainly because of the printhead, which
isn't life-time one. After 2nd refilling or even 1st, the printouts
may appear banded, washed out, etc.
Remember that you also mix the original ink with the bulk ink - not
good if you want your prints to last (even 1 year).

> I cant for the life of me figure why you think the
> quality would suffer...I use the highest quality
> settings, good paper (some Red Riverm some Printasia)and
> the best damn ink money can buy AFAIK, from
> www.inksupply.com (MIS Assosiates)


Your prints just won't last, no matter which setting and which paper
you will be using. Secondly you're shortening the life of the
printhead. I use original inks with Canon because they are really
cheap. The only letdown is the paper (especially pr-101) which is bit
pricey.
I think that if you buy a printer for 270$ (Europe) you can afford
inks for 9$.

Wayne
 
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buck
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      4th Jul 2003
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> > Correct on the refills (I keep several carts standing by
> > and rotate through them) incorrect on the quality..

>
> I assure you that I'm correct on the quality. Refilling cartidges with
> integrated printhead (HP, Lexmark) won't give you the same results as
> refilling cartidges with mounted printhead (Epson, Canon). There will
> be a noticable loss in quality mainly because of the printhead, which
> isn't life-time one. After 2nd refilling or even 1st, the printouts
> may appear banded, washed out, etc.
> Remember that you also mix the original ink with the bulk ink - not
> good if you want your prints to last (even 1 year).
>
> > I cant for the life of me figure why you think the
> > quality would suffer...I use the highest quality
> > settings, good paper (some Red Riverm some Printasia)and
> > the best damn ink money can buy AFAIK, from
> > www.inksupply.com (MIS Assosiates)

>
> Your prints just won't last, no matter which setting and which paper
> you will be using. Secondly you're shortening the life of the
> printhead. I use original inks with Canon because they are really
> cheap. The only letdown is the paper (especially pr-101) which is bit
> pricey.
> I think that if you buy a printer for 270$ (Europe) you can afford
> inks for 9$.
>
> Wayne
>

Wayne, you make 4 assumptions you shouldn't make:

first bad assumption: That Im too stupid to notice ANY
drop in quality. Im not, and its kind of insulting.

Second bad assumption: That I continue to refill a cart
simply because I can. I USUALLY will only refill twice,
then chuck it. That cuts my cost to only slightly more
than one third. I tried 3 refills on the HP # 57 # 58
(carts for the HP 7350, 7550 ect) and quality
deteriorated, so I cut that line off at 2 refils...

Third bad assumption: That the ink I refill with is of a
type and quality that would cause problems of any kind
with the head. I've been doing this a LONG time (since
the very first ink jet kits became available (dont
remember what year)). Some bulk inks are even BETTER
than OEM, some are very bad, thats what prompted my
orriginal response.

Fourth bad assumption: that the ink I use doesn't make
long lasting prints. Just not so.. MIS inks last as
long, or longer than OEM inks, thats one of the reasons
they take the trouble to formulate the ink for the
CARTRIDGE not the brand.

You really shouldn't make those assumptions, my
experience proves them incorrect.
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