Hi all,

are there any third party cartridges, replacing the CLI-8 types with
chips for newer Canon Pixmas, such as the iP4200?

I've seen some announcements for end of november, delayed til today.

However, I doubt that there will be any legal 3rd party cartridges!?

The originals are above 10 EUR in Europe (which is about $10, due to
exchange rate + tax).

The former ones where slightly cheaper. Good 3rd party was around
3-4 EUR, while cheap ones were at 1 EUR.

A current refill with cartridges is about half the printer's price.
Good luck that I own the iP4000 myself. However, I'd like to know about
iP4200, too.

Refilling the original cartridges ist yet another option. This will tell
the printer about refilling. Probably, a warranty will be destroyed this
way. Refilling will prevent to show the empty cartridge status, possibly
destroying the print head while running dry. I don't know which ink is
suited especially for the 1 pl print head of iP4200, offering similar
quality (matching color, UV stability, print head life time, water
proof).

- Martin

Martin Trautmann wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>are there any third party cartridges, replacing the CLI-8 types with
>chips for newer Canon Pixmas, such as the iP4200?
>
>
>
I HOPE NOT

>I've seen some announcements for end of november, delayed til today.
>
>However, I doubt that there will be any legal 3rd party cartridges!?
>
>
THAT IS GREAT

>The originals are above 10 EUR in Europe (which is about $10, due to
>exchange rate + tax).
>
>The former ones where slightly cheaper. Good 3rd party was around
>3-4 EUR, while cheap ones were at 1 EUR.
>
>
THERE ARE NONE AND NEVER WILL BE

>A current refill with cartridges is about half the printer's price.
>Good luck that I own the iP4000 myself. However, I'd like to know about
>iP4200, too.
>
>
NO IT IS NOT LUCK.

>Refilling the original cartridges ist yet another option. This will tell
>the printer about refilling. Probably, a warranty will be destroyed this
>way.
>
GOOD

>Refilling will prevent to show the empty cartridge status, possibly
>destroying the print head while running dry. I don't know which ink is
>suited especially for the 1 pl print head of iP4200, offering similar
>quality (matching color, UV stability, print head life time, water
>proof).
>
>
THERE IS NONE

>- Martin
>
>

"Martin Trautmann" <t-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:slrndpqlph.kvk.t-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Hi all,
>
> are there any third party cartridges, replacing the CLI-8 types with
> chips for newer Canon Pixmas, such as the iP4200?
>
> I've seen some announcements for end of november, delayed til today.
>
> However, I doubt that there will be any legal 3rd party cartridges!?
>
> The originals are above 10 EUR in Europe (which is about $10, due to
> exchange rate + tax).
>
> The former ones where slightly cheaper. Good 3rd party was around
> 3-4 EUR, while cheap ones were at 1 EUR.
>
> A current refill with cartridges is about half the printer's price.
> Good luck that I own the iP4000 myself. However, I'd like to know about
> iP4200, too.
>
> Refilling the original cartridges ist yet another option. This will tell
> the printer about refilling. Probably, a warranty will be destroyed this
> way. Refilling will prevent to show the empty cartridge status, possibly
> destroying the print head while running dry. I don't know which ink is
> suited especially for the 1 pl print head of iP4200, offering similar
> quality (matching color, UV stability, print head life time, water
> proof).
>
> - Martin

Office Max has the IP4200 on special for $80, which is $10 more
than a set of cartridges. On other forums people say they have
successfully refilled with BCI-6 inks. The printer stores the fact
that you have refilled. Canon may try you void the warrantee. Even
if they do you are money well ahead if you successfully refill twice.
I have a i850 that I have refilled 20 times before the printhead
partly burned out. I don't think the burnout was caused by my
choice of ink.

Some reviews say the IP4200 does better photo printing than the
IP4000. Any other opinions?

"ray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:9Ujnf.6748$(E-Mail Removed):

> Some reviews say the IP4200 does better photo printing than the
> IP4000. Any other opinions?
>

It has twice the resolution - Same specs as the 5000, except has more RAM
(the 5000 is peculiar, in it has 34K, most of the rest have 42K)
The 4200 also suppoedly has the front tray roller assembly for the CD tray.
If refilling is your bag, I'd try to get a 4000 or 5000.

Gary Tait wrote:

>"ray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:9Ujnf.6748$(E-Mail Removed):
>
>
>
>>Some reviews say the IP4200 does better photo printing than the
>>IP4000. Any other opinions?
>>
>>
>>
>
>It has twice the resolution - Same specs as the 5000, except has more RAM
>(the 5000 is peculiar, in it has 34K, most of the rest have 42K)
>The 4200 also suppoedly has the front tray roller assembly for the CD tray.
>If refilling is your bag, I'd try to get a 4000 or 5000.
>
>
ALWAYS BUY THE LATEST TO GET EVEN THE SMALL IMPROVEMENTS. I HAVE A 4000
AND THINK IT IS GREAT BUT IF I BOUGHT ONE TODAY I WOULD PROBABLY BUY A
IP5200 BECAUSE IT IS FASTER.

ray wrote:

>"Martin Trautmann" <t-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:slrndpqlph.kvk.t-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>are there any third party cartridges, replacing the CLI-8 types with
>>chips for newer Canon Pixmas, such as the iP4200?
>>
>>I've seen some announcements for end of november, delayed til today.
>>
>>However, I doubt that there will be any legal 3rd party cartridges!?
>>
>>The originals are above 10 EUR in Europe (which is about $10, due to
>>exchange rate + tax).
>>
>>The former ones where slightly cheaper. Good 3rd party was around
>>3-4 EUR, while cheap ones were at 1 EUR.
>>
>>A current refill with cartridges is about half the printer's price.
>>Good luck that I own the iP4000 myself. However, I'd like to know about
>>iP4200, too.
>>
>>Refilling the original cartridges ist yet another option. This will tell
>>the printer about refilling. Probably, a warranty will be destroyed this
>>way. Refilling will prevent to show the empty cartridge status, possibly
>>destroying the print head while running dry. I don't know which ink is
>>suited especially for the 1 pl print head of iP4200, offering similar
>>quality (matching color, UV stability, print head life time, water
>>proof).
>>
>>- Martin
>>
>>
>
>Office Max has the IP4200 on special for $80, which is $10 more
>than a set of cartridges. On other forums people say they have
>successfully refilled with BCI-6 inks. The printer stores the fact
>that you have refilled. Canon may try you void the warrantee.
>
IF YOU USE THE WRONG INK SPEFICIATIONS THEY DO NOT HAVE TO HONOR THE
WARRANTY IF THE INK MESSED UP THE PRINTER. IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY
DIFFERENCE IF IT IS AFTERMARKET OR THEIR OWN IF THE INK IS THE WRONG CART.

>Even
>if they do you are money well ahead if you successfully refill twice.
>I have a i850 that I have refilled 20 times before the printhead
>partly burned out. I don't think the burnout was caused by my
>choice of ink.
>
>Some reviews say the IP4200 does better photo printing than the
>IP4000. Any other opinions?
>
>
>
>

>On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:07:55 -0800, "ray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Some reviews say the IP4200 does better photo printing than the
>IP4000. Any other opinions?

The IP4200 does at least as well, if not a tad better than by old 6
colour S900.

ray wrote:
> "Martin Trautmann" <t-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:slrndpqlph.kvk.t-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>are there any third party cartridges, replacing the CLI-8 types with
>>chips for newer Canon Pixmas, such as the iP4200?
>>
>>I've seen some announcements for end of november, delayed til today.
>>
>>However, I doubt that there will be any legal 3rd party cartridges!?
>>
>>The originals are above 10 EUR in Europe (which is about $10, due to
>>exchange rate + tax).
>>
>>The former ones where slightly cheaper. Good 3rd party was around
>>3-4 EUR, while cheap ones were at 1 EUR.
>>
>>A current refill with cartridges is about half the printer's price.
>>Good luck that I own the iP4000 myself. However, I'd like to know about
>>iP4200, too.
>>
>>Refilling the original cartridges ist yet another option. This will tell
>>the printer about refilling. Probably, a warranty will be destroyed this
>>way. Refilling will prevent to show the empty cartridge status, possibly
>>destroying the print head while running dry. I don't know which ink is
>>suited especially for the 1 pl print head of iP4200, offering similar
>>quality (matching color, UV stability, print head life time, water
>>proof).
>>
>>- Martin
>
>
> Office Max has the IP4200 on special for $80, which is $10 more
> than a set of cartridges. On other forums people say they have
> successfully refilled with BCI-6 inks. The printer stores the fact
> that you have refilled. Canon may try you void the warrantee. Even
> if they do you are money well ahead if you successfully refill twice.
> I have a i850 that I have refilled 20 times before the printhead
> partly burned out. I don't think the burnout was caused by my
> choice of ink.
>
> Some reviews say the IP4200 does better photo printing than the
> IP4000. Any other opinions?
>
>
Canon cannot void your warranty because of the type of ink you use.
Anybody who says different is lying so don't believe them.
Frank

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:07:55 -0800, ray wrote:
> Some reviews say the IP4200 does better photo printing than the
> IP4000. Any other opinions?

slightly better, significantly slower,
Martin

> measkite said: Snipped per request

wait... just last month you said the ip5200, and it was I who was
arguing that according to the specs the ip5200 was faster in most
things. Are you now admiting you were wrong are are you just making up
stuff to make canon look good? Please make up your mind... thank you
kindly.