Sunday eve

Win XP pro, all updates, office 2003 all updates, ESET AV

This has not happened before.

I am attempting to delete the pagefile.sys before defragmenting.

Two computers, each with one user, set as administrator.

I have repeatedly set the pagefile to none for all drives.

Using the users and the administrators accounts.

After reboot the setting is still at no page file, but windows indicates one
exists. And I cannot delete the file.

I have tried safe mode.

I have increased the size of the recommended amount. Works fine.

For one computer, I set the drive to auto for the D: drive and none for the
C: drive and after boot the C: file is gone and the D: exists. I set the D:
drive to none and the file is once again on the C:

I am annoyed now. This is stupid.

Has some recent MS update made this happen?


J

"J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Sunday eve
>
> Win XP pro, all updates, office 2003 all updates, ESET AV
>
> This has not happened before.
>
> I am attempting to delete the pagefile.sys before defragmenting.
>
> Two computers, each with one user, set as administrator.
>
> I have repeatedly set the pagefile to none for all drives.
>
> Using the users and the administrators accounts.
>
> After reboot the setting is still at no page file, but windows indicates
> one exists. And I cannot delete the file.
>
> I have tried safe mode.
>
> I have increased the size of the recommended amount. Works fine.
>
> For one computer, I set the drive to auto for the D: drive and none for
> the C: drive and after boot the C: file is gone and the D: exists. I set
> the D: drive to none and the file is once again on the C:
>
> I am annoyed now. This is stupid.
>
> Has some recent MS update made this happen?
>
>
> J

If the aim of this is to get a defragmented pagefile this may be of use to
you:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...agedefrag.mspx

Ed Metcalfe.

Thank you for your reply

for comp 1 it is 589 meg

for comp 2 it is 767 meg


"Unknown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> If Windows says one exists what is its name and how large is it?
> "J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Sunday eve
>>
>> Win XP pro, all updates, office 2003 all updates, ESET AV
>>
>> This has not happened before.
>>
>> I am attempting to delete the pagefile.sys before defragmenting.
>>
>> Two computers, each with one user, set as administrator.
>>
>> I have repeatedly set the pagefile to none for all drives.
>>
>> Using the users and the administrators accounts.
>>
>> After reboot the setting is still at no page file, but windows indicates
>> one exists. And I cannot delete the file.
>>
>> I have tried safe mode.
>>
>> I have increased the size of the recommended amount. Works fine.
>>
>> For one computer, I set the drive to auto for the D: drive and none for
>> the C: drive and after boot the C: file is gone and the D: exists. I set
>> the D: drive to none and the file is once again on the C:
>>
>> I am annoyed now. This is stupid.
>>
>> Has some recent MS update made this happen?
>>
>>
>> J
>
>

pagefile.sys for both


"Unknown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> If Windows says one exists what is its name and how large is it?
> "J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Sunday eve
>>
>> Win XP pro, all updates, office 2003 all updates, ESET AV
>>
>> This has not happened before.
>>
>> I am attempting to delete the pagefile.sys before defragmenting.
>>
>> Two computers, each with one user, set as administrator.
>>
>> I have repeatedly set the pagefile to none for all drives.
>>
>> Using the users and the administrators accounts.
>>
>> After reboot the setting is still at no page file, but windows indicates
>> one exists. And I cannot delete the file.
>>
>> I have tried safe mode.
>>
>> I have increased the size of the recommended amount. Works fine.
>>
>> For one computer, I set the drive to auto for the D: drive and none for
>> the C: drive and after boot the C: file is gone and the D: exists. I set
>> the D: drive to none and the file is once again on the C:
>>
>> I am annoyed now. This is stupid.
>>
>> Has some recent MS update made this happen?
>>
>>
>> J
>
>

Thank you for the line.

My insterest is to defrag the drive with out the pagefile's and the
hibernate file's bits scattered about.

And then the pagefile is contiguous and feeling fresh.


"Ed Metcalfe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Sunday eve
>>
>> Win XP pro, all updates, office 2003 all updates, ESET AV
>>
>> This has not happened before.
>>
>> I am attempting to delete the pagefile.sys before defragmenting.
>>
>> Two computers, each with one user, set as administrator.
>>
>> I have repeatedly set the pagefile to none for all drives.
>>
>> Using the users and the administrators accounts.
>>
>> After reboot the setting is still at no page file, but windows indicates
>> one exists. And I cannot delete the file.
>>
>> I have tried safe mode.
>>
>> I have increased the size of the recommended amount. Works fine.
>>
>> For one computer, I set the drive to auto for the D: drive and none for
>> the C: drive and after boot the C: file is gone and the D: exists. I set
>> the D: drive to none and the file is once again on the C:
>>
>> I am annoyed now. This is stupid.
>>
>> Has some recent MS update made this happen?
>>
>>
>> J
>
> If the aim of this is to get a defragmented pagefile this may be of use to
> you:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...agedefrag.mspx
>
> Ed Metcalfe.
>

"J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thank you for the line.
>
> My insterest is to defrag the drive with out the pagefile's and the
> hibernate file's bits scattered about.
>
> And then the pagefile is contiguous and feeling fresh.
>
But it can easily get internally fragmented, and you will not be able to
tell.
Jim
>
> "Ed Metcalfe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Sunday eve
>>>
>>> Win XP pro, all updates, office 2003 all updates, ESET AV
>>>
>>> This has not happened before.
>>>
>>> I am attempting to delete the pagefile.sys before defragmenting.
>>>
>>> Two computers, each with one user, set as administrator.
>>>
>>> I have repeatedly set the pagefile to none for all drives.
>>>
>>> Using the users and the administrators accounts.
>>>
>>> After reboot the setting is still at no page file, but windows indicates
>>> one exists. And I cannot delete the file.
>>>
>>> I have tried safe mode.
>>>
>>> I have increased the size of the recommended amount. Works fine.
>>>
>>> For one computer, I set the drive to auto for the D: drive and none for
>>> the C: drive and after boot the C: file is gone and the D: exists. I set
>>> the D: drive to none and the file is once again on the C:
>>>
>>> I am annoyed now. This is stupid.
>>>
>>> Has some recent MS update made this happen?
>>>
>>>
>>> J
>>
>> If the aim of this is to get a defragmented pagefile this may be of use
>> to you:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...agedefrag.mspx
>>
>> Ed Metcalfe.
>>
>

"Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thank you for the line.
>>
>> My insterest is to defrag the drive with out the pagefile's and the
>> hibernate file's bits scattered about.
>>
>> And then the pagefile is contiguous and feeling fresh.
>>
> But it can easily get internally fragmented, and you will not be able to
> tell.

'Tis true. And I will now use the Sysinternals tools regularly.

Yet, I am still confused as to why I cannot stop the swap.


>>
>> "Ed Metcalfe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> "J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Sunday eve
>>>>
>>>> Win XP pro, all updates, office 2003 all updates, ESET AV
>>>>
>>>> This has not happened before.
>>>>
>>>> I am attempting to delete the pagefile.sys before defragmenting.
>>>>
>>>> Two computers, each with one user, set as administrator.
>>>>
>>>> I have repeatedly set the pagefile to none for all drives.
>>>>
>>>> Using the users and the administrators accounts.
>>>>
>>>> After reboot the setting is still at no page file, but windows
>>>> indicates one exists. And I cannot delete the file.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried safe mode.
>>>>
>>>> I have increased the size of the recommended amount. Works fine.
>>>>
>>>> For one computer, I set the drive to auto for the D: drive and none for
>>>> the C: drive and after boot the C: file is gone and the D: exists. I
>>>> set the D: drive to none and the file is once again on the C:
>>>>
>>>> I am annoyed now. This is stupid.
>>>>
>>>> Has some recent MS update made this happen?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>
>>> If the aim of this is to get a defragmented pagefile this may be of use
>>> to you:
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...agedefrag.mspx
>>>
>>> Ed Metcalfe.
>>>
>>
>
>

If you have free disk space less than 60% of the operating system
partition it becomes difficult to achieve a contiguous pagefile. If you
have less than 40% used disk space you can get a contiguous pagefile by
setting a zero pagefile, running Disk CleanUp and Disk Defragmenter,
restarting the computer and setting the minimum pagefile size to what
you would want as a maximum. This doesn't work where you have more than
about 40% used disk space (excluding the pagefile) as the process of
restarting the computer moves system files into the area you want the
pagefile, before the pagefile takes possession.

You should probably check that you are following the correct procedure
for setting a zero pagefile. It is to check Zero, click Set, click Apply
and OK. Restart the computer.
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

J wrote:
> Thank you for the line.
>
> My insterest is to defrag the drive with out the pagefile's and the
> hibernate file's bits scattered about.
>
> And then the pagefile is contiguous and feeling fresh.
>
>
> "Ed Metcalfe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Sunday eve
>>>
>>> Win XP pro, all updates, office 2003 all updates, ESET AV
>>>
>>> This has not happened before.
>>>
>>> I am attempting to delete the pagefile.sys before defragmenting.
>>>
>>> Two computers, each with one user, set as administrator.
>>>
>>> I have repeatedly set the pagefile to none for all drives.
>>>
>>> Using the users and the administrators accounts.
>>>
>>> After reboot the setting is still at no page file, but windows
>>> indicates one exists. And I cannot delete the file.
>>>
>>> I have tried safe mode.
>>>
>>> I have increased the size of the recommended amount. Works fine.
>>>
>>> For one computer, I set the drive to auto for the D: drive and none
>>> for the C: drive and after boot the C: file is gone and the D:
>>> exists. I set the D: drive to none and the file is once again on
>>> the C: I am annoyed now. This is stupid.
>>>
>>> Has some recent MS update made this happen?
>>>
>>>
>>> J
>>
>> If the aim of this is to get a defragmented pagefile this may be of
>> use to you:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...agedefrag.mspx
>>
>> Ed Metcalfe.

"J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:EZsXi.66658$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Thank you for the line.
>>>
>>> My insterest is to defrag the drive with out the pagefile's and the
>>> hibernate file's bits scattered about.
>>>
>>> And then the pagefile is contiguous and feeling fresh.
>>>
>> But it can easily get internally fragmented, and you will not be able to
>> tell.
>
> 'Tis true. And I will now use the Sysinternals tools regularly.
>
> Yet, I am still confused as to why I cannot stop the swap.
Isn't it correct that you can only delete a pagefile in Safe Mode? In
normal mode, the pagefile is always open. Windows will not delete open
files.
Jim
>
>
>>>
>>> "Ed Metcalfe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>
>>>> "J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Sunday eve
>>>>>
>>>>> Win XP pro, all updates, office 2003 all updates, ESET AV
>>>>>
>>>>> This has not happened before.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am attempting to delete the pagefile.sys before defragmenting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Two computers, each with one user, set as administrator.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have repeatedly set the pagefile to none for all drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using the users and the administrators accounts.
>>>>>
>>>>> After reboot the setting is still at no page file, but windows
>>>>> indicates one exists. And I cannot delete the file.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried safe mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have increased the size of the recommended amount. Works fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> For one computer, I set the drive to auto for the D: drive and none
>>>>> for the C: drive and after boot the C: file is gone and the D: exists.
>>>>> I set the D: drive to none and the file is once again on the C:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am annoyed now. This is stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has some recent MS update made this happen?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> If the aim of this is to get a defragmented pagefile this may be of use
>>>> to you:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...agedefrag.mspx
>>>>
>>>> Ed Metcalfe.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Thank you for your reply.

The problem is as described in my initial post: I cannot set the pagefile to
0.

And after reboot, even though the system dialog indicates it is set to none,
the current pagefile is as stated in a previous post.

"Gerry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> If you have free disk space less than 60% of the operating system
> partition it becomes difficult to achieve a contiguous pagefile. If you
> have less than 40% used disk space you can get a contiguous pagefile by
> setting a zero pagefile, running Disk CleanUp and Disk Defragmenter,
> restarting the computer and setting the minimum pagefile size to what you
> would want as a maximum. This doesn't work where you have more than about
> 40% used disk space (excluding the pagefile) as the process of restarting
> the computer moves system files into the area you want the pagefile,
> before the pagefile takes possession.
>
> You should probably check that you are following the correct procedure for
> setting a zero pagefile. It is to check Zero, click Set, click Apply and
> OK. Restart the computer.
> http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> J wrote:
>> Thank you for the line.
>>
>> My insterest is to defrag the drive with out the pagefile's and the
>> hibernate file's bits scattered about.
>>
>> And then the pagefile is contiguous and feeling fresh.
>>
>>
>> "Ed Metcalfe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> "J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Sunday eve
>>>>
>>>> Win XP pro, all updates, office 2003 all updates, ESET AV
>>>>
>>>> This has not happened before.
>>>>
>>>> I am attempting to delete the pagefile.sys before defragmenting.
>>>>
>>>> Two computers, each with one user, set as administrator.
>>>>
>>>> I have repeatedly set the pagefile to none for all drives.
>>>>
>>>> Using the users and the administrators accounts.
>>>>
>>>> After reboot the setting is still at no page file, but windows
>>>> indicates one exists. And I cannot delete the file.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried safe mode.
>>>>
>>>> I have increased the size of the recommended amount. Works fine.
>>>>
>>>> For one computer, I set the drive to auto for the D: drive and none
>>>> for the C: drive and after boot the C: file is gone and the D:
>>>> exists. I set the D: drive to none and the file is once again on
>>>> the C: I am annoyed now. This is stupid.
>>>>
>>>> Has some recent MS update made this happen?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>
>>> If the aim of this is to get a defragmented pagefile this may be of
>>> use to you:
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...agedefrag.mspx
>>>
>>> Ed Metcalfe.
>
>