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Greg
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      22nd Jul 2003
I have tried to install an external USB 2.0 hard drive on
a laptop running Windows XP and it failed... Each time I
plug the device I'll be told :

"HI-SPEED DEVICE plugged into NON HI-SPEED DEVICE"

And if I try to update the driver, it ends up telling
me "Cannot start device" and setup fails.

However, when I tried the device on a Windows 98 desktop,
I had no problem, I didn't even have anything to install,
it worked straight away. Please help, I'm getting crazy!!!
 
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Greg
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      22nd Jul 2003
Well, I checked, and the laptop is brand new so these
ports should be USB 2.0... Not 100% sure though...

Anyway, as you say, it should still work, only slower. In
my case, it tells me that it cannot start the device. But
the goddam same thing is brand new too and works properly
on a Windows 98 desktop!

I'm getting crazy...

Thanks for you rhelp anyway.


>-----Original Message-----
>Greg <> wrote:
>> I have tried to install an external USB 2.0 hard drive

on
>> a laptop running Windows XP and it failed... Each time I
>> plug the device I'll be told :
>>
>> "HI-SPEED DEVICE plugged into NON HI-SPEED DEVICE"

>
>I figured I better tell you HOW to tell if you have USB

1.1 or 2.0:
>
>Best Method?
>
>Look it up in the books/paperwork that come with your PC.
>If you bought the motherboard and assembled it all

yourself, go and check
>its manual either online or in your stack of paperwork.
>
>
>Other method? Get a USB 2.0 storage device, hook it into

your computer.
>See how fast it transfers. There is such a significant

difference in USB
>1.1 and 2.0, you will be able to tell. USB 2.0 should be

tranferring MUCH
>fatser than your floppy drive ever dreamed of. If you

have USB 2.0, this
>will show it.
>
>
>More detailed "Check Windows" method? (May not be

accurate 100% of the time)
>
>Use the following steps to determine if your computer has

USB 1.1 or USB 2.0
>ports.
>
>
>Select your operating system:
>
>Windows® 98/Me
>
> 1.. Right-click the My Computer icon and select

Properties.
> 2.. Click the Device Manager tab.
> 3.. Click the plus (+) sign next to Universal Serial

Bus Controllers.
>
>
> Note: If Universal Serial Bus Controllers is not

listed, there is a
>problem with the USB controller or the USB controller is

not enabled in the
>computer's BIOS. Please contact the computer or card

manufacturer for
>updated drivers and/or for information on how to fix or

enable the USB
>controller.
>
> 1.. If Enhanced Host Controller and/or USB 2.0 Root

Hub Device is
> listed, then the computer has USB 2.0 ports.
> 2.. If Universal Host Controller and/or Open Host

Controller is listed,
> then the computer has USB 1.1 ports.
>
>
>Windows® 2000/XP
>
> 1.. Right-click the My Computer icon and select Manage.
> Note: Windows XP users may need to click Start to access

the
> My Computer icon.
> 2.. Click the Device Manager icon.
> 3.. Click the plus (+) sign next to Universal Serial

Bus Controllers.
>
> Note: If Universal Serial Bus Controllers is not

listed, there is a
>problem with the USB controller or the USB controller is

not enabled in the
>computer's BIOS. Please contact the computer or card

manufacturer for
>updated drivers and/or for information on how to fix or

enable the USB
>controller.
>
> 1.. If Enhanced Host Controller and/or USB 2.0 Root

Hub Device is
> listed, then the computer has USB 2.0 ports.
> 2.. If Universal Host Controller and/or Open Host

Controller is listed,
> then the computer has USB 1.1 ports.
>
>
>--
>Shenan Stanley
>"Just trying to help"
>-------------------------
>How to use XPs Help and Support
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>
>How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups
>http://tinyurl.com/fkja
>
>How do I go about posting an informative question?
>http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>How to use Google
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>http://tinyurl.com/fkmc
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Yves Leclerc
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      22nd Jul 2003
I would not assume that if the laptop is new then you have USB 2.0 ports.
Some makers are not putting in USB 2.0 ports in the lower-end models. Some
even may still be waiting until the USB 1.1 inventory is emptied.

Always check with the included documentation for the laptop and check with
the laptop manufacturer, FIRST.
Then, check in the laptop's BIOS to see if USB 2 ports are active.
Also, if the USB 2 ports are active, in the BIOS, it does not hurt to make
sure you would have the latest chipset drivers, and any USB 2 drivers,
installed from downloaded files from the maker's web site.

You can also try this: Remove all USB devices/ports from Windows Device
Manager and reboot. Windows should
re-detect the USB ports after
restarting. Then, you should try to reconnect the USB devices.

Yves

"Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0a7a01c35039$a6813770$(E-Mail Removed)...
Well, I checked, and the laptop is brand new so these
ports should be USB 2.0... Not 100% sure though...

Anyway, as you say, it should still work, only slower. In
my case, it tells me that it cannot start the device. But
the goddam same thing is brand new too and works properly
on a Windows 98 desktop!

I'm getting crazy...

Thanks for you rhelp anyway.


>-----Original Message-----
>Greg <> wrote:
>> I have tried to install an external USB 2.0 hard drive

on
>> a laptop running Windows XP and it failed... Each time I
>> plug the device I'll be told :
>>
>> "HI-SPEED DEVICE plugged into NON HI-SPEED DEVICE"

>
>I figured I better tell you HOW to tell if you have USB

1.1 or 2.0:
>
>Best Method?
>
>Look it up in the books/paperwork that come with your PC.
>If you bought the motherboard and assembled it all

yourself, go and check
>its manual either online or in your stack of paperwork.
>
>
>Other method? Get a USB 2.0 storage device, hook it into

your computer.
>See how fast it transfers. There is such a significant

difference in USB
>1.1 and 2.0, you will be able to tell. USB 2.0 should be

tranferring MUCH
>fatser than your floppy drive ever dreamed of. If you

have USB 2.0, this
>will show it.
>
>
>More detailed "Check Windows" method? (May not be

accurate 100% of the time)
>
>Use the following steps to determine if your computer has

USB 1.1 or USB 2.0
>ports.
>
>
>Select your operating system:
>
>Windows® 98/Me
>
> 1.. Right-click the My Computer icon and select

Properties.
> 2.. Click the Device Manager tab.
> 3.. Click the plus (+) sign next to Universal Serial

Bus Controllers.
>
>
> Note: If Universal Serial Bus Controllers is not

listed, there is a
>problem with the USB controller or the USB controller is

not enabled in the
>computer's BIOS. Please contact the computer or card

manufacturer for
>updated drivers and/or for information on how to fix or

enable the USB
>controller.
>
> 1.. If Enhanced Host Controller and/or USB 2.0 Root

Hub Device is
> listed, then the computer has USB 2.0 ports.
> 2.. If Universal Host Controller and/or Open Host

Controller is listed,
> then the computer has USB 1.1 ports.
>
>
>Windows® 2000/XP
>
> 1.. Right-click the My Computer icon and select Manage.
> Note: Windows XP users may need to click Start to access

the
> My Computer icon.
> 2.. Click the Device Manager icon.
> 3.. Click the plus (+) sign next to Universal Serial

Bus Controllers.
>
> Note: If Universal Serial Bus Controllers is not

listed, there is a
>problem with the USB controller or the USB controller is

not enabled in the
>computer's BIOS. Please contact the computer or card

manufacturer for
>updated drivers and/or for information on how to fix or

enable the USB
>controller.
>
> 1.. If Enhanced Host Controller and/or USB 2.0 Root

Hub Device is
> listed, then the computer has USB 2.0 ports.
> 2.. If Universal Host Controller and/or Open Host

Controller is listed,
> then the computer has USB 1.1 ports.
>
>
>--
>Shenan Stanley
>"Just trying to help"
>-------------------------
>How to use XPs Help and Support
>http://tinyurl.com/fltf
>
>How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups
>http://tinyurl.com/fkja
>
>How do I go about posting an informative question?
>http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>How to use Google
>http://www.google.com/help/basics.html
>http://tinyurl.com/fkmc
>-------------------------
>
>
>.
>



 
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LVTravel
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      22nd Jul 2003
Greg,

To determine if you have USB 2.0 controller on your computer, Right
click on My Computer, left click on properties, left click on Hardware, left
click on Device Manager. Scroll to the bottom of the list. If you have
anything that says "Enhanced" USB controller you have USB 2.0. If not you
have USB 1.1.





"Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0a7a01c35039$a6813770$(E-Mail Removed)...
Well, I checked, and the laptop is brand new so these
ports should be USB 2.0... Not 100% sure though...

Anyway, as you say, it should still work, only slower. In
my case, it tells me that it cannot start the device. But
the goddam same thing is brand new too and works properly
on a Windows 98 desktop!

I'm getting crazy...

Thanks for you rhelp anyway.


>-----Original Message-----
>Greg <> wrote:
>> I have tried to install an external USB 2.0 hard drive

on
>> a laptop running Windows XP and it failed... Each time I
>> plug the device I'll be told :
>>
>> "HI-SPEED DEVICE plugged into NON HI-SPEED DEVICE"

>
>I figured I better tell you HOW to tell if you have USB

1.1 or 2.0:
>
>Best Method?
>
>Look it up in the books/paperwork that come with your PC.
>If you bought the motherboard and assembled it all

yourself, go and check
>its manual either online or in your stack of paperwork.
>
>
>Other method? Get a USB 2.0 storage device, hook it into

your computer.
>See how fast it transfers. There is such a significant

difference in USB
>1.1 and 2.0, you will be able to tell. USB 2.0 should be

tranferring MUCH
>fatser than your floppy drive ever dreamed of. If you

have USB 2.0, this
>will show it.
>
>
>More detailed "Check Windows" method? (May not be

accurate 100% of the time)
>
>Use the following steps to determine if your computer has

USB 1.1 or USB 2.0
>ports.
>
>
>Select your operating system:
>
>Windows® 98/Me
>
> 1.. Right-click the My Computer icon and select

Properties.
> 2.. Click the Device Manager tab.
> 3.. Click the plus (+) sign next to Universal Serial

Bus Controllers.
>
>
> Note: If Universal Serial Bus Controllers is not

listed, there is a
>problem with the USB controller or the USB controller is

not enabled in the
>computer's BIOS. Please contact the computer or card

manufacturer for
>updated drivers and/or for information on how to fix or

enable the USB
>controller.
>
> 1.. If Enhanced Host Controller and/or USB 2.0 Root

Hub Device is
> listed, then the computer has USB 2.0 ports.
> 2.. If Universal Host Controller and/or Open Host

Controller is listed,
> then the computer has USB 1.1 ports.
>
>
>Windows® 2000/XP
>
> 1.. Right-click the My Computer icon and select Manage.
> Note: Windows XP users may need to click Start to access

the
> My Computer icon.
> 2.. Click the Device Manager icon.
> 3.. Click the plus (+) sign next to Universal Serial

Bus Controllers.
>
> Note: If Universal Serial Bus Controllers is not

listed, there is a
>problem with the USB controller or the USB controller is

not enabled in the
>computer's BIOS. Please contact the computer or card

manufacturer for
>updated drivers and/or for information on how to fix or

enable the USB
>controller.
>
> 1.. If Enhanced Host Controller and/or USB 2.0 Root

Hub Device is
> listed, then the computer has USB 2.0 ports.
> 2.. If Universal Host Controller and/or Open Host

Controller is listed,
> then the computer has USB 1.1 ports.
>
>
>--
>Shenan Stanley
>"Just trying to help"
>-------------------------
>How to use XPs Help and Support
>http://tinyurl.com/fltf
>
>How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups
>http://tinyurl.com/fkja
>
>How do I go about posting an informative question?
>http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>How to use Google
>http://www.google.com/help/basics.html
>http://tinyurl.com/fkmc
>-------------------------
>
>
>.
>



 
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Rob
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      25th Jul 2003
I have been given the run around by Western Digital
trying to get my external drive to work. Their USB2/1394
combo drive doesn't install on my WinXP SP1 desktop USB2.
WinXP cannot find a driver and it quits the install.

According to WD, MicroSoft wrote the driver and it
is "supposed" to be in XP and it is supposed to
automatically install drivers and work. If it doesn't
work, tough luck since they don't have the driver and you
can't download it yourself from MS (they don't allow any
company to give out their XP drivers).

My drive works fine on my laptop in either 1394 mode or
USB 1.1 mode (no USB 2 port). Your drive should work on
either a uSB 1.1 or 2 drive, just slower on the latter.
It sounds like your drive hasn't installed, like my
desktop. If I plug it into my desktop USB2 port I get the
same errors as you do.

The only suggestion I got from Western digital was to
reload the OS...yikes. So I tried to do an OS WinXP
repair and the drive actually WAS identified and
installed OK. But, a lot of other stuff didn't work, so I
had to reload the system. While the drive was working I
checked the drivers. What I learned from all of this is
that it appears that the SP1 (or some other) upgrade
changed all the USB drivers. In my case the old USB2
drivers provided with WinXP worked but the new SP1
drivers don't. For what it's worth, I think there is a
USB 2 bug in SP1 (or one of the other updates). I can't
help, only sympathize, and hope that a fix comes along.


>-----Original Message-----
>Well, I checked, and the laptop is brand new so these
>ports should be USB 2.0... Not 100% sure though...
>
>Anyway, as you say, it should still work, only slower.

In
>my case, it tells me that it cannot start the device.

But
>the goddam same thing is brand new too and works

properly
>on a Windows 98 desktop!
>
>I'm getting crazy...
>
>Thanks for you rhelp anyway.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Greg <> wrote:
>>> I have tried to install an external USB 2.0 hard

drive
>on
>>> a laptop running Windows XP and it failed... Each

time I
>>> plug the device I'll be told :
>>>
>>> "HI-SPEED DEVICE plugged into NON HI-SPEED DEVICE"

>>
>>I figured I better tell you HOW to tell if you have USB

>1.1 or 2.0:
>>
>>Best Method?
>>
>>Look it up in the books/paperwork that come with your

PC.
>>If you bought the motherboard and assembled it all

>yourself, go and check
>>its manual either online or in your stack of paperwork.
>>
>>
>>Other method? Get a USB 2.0 storage device, hook it

into
>your computer.
>>See how fast it transfers. There is such a significant

>difference in USB
>>1.1 and 2.0, you will be able to tell. USB 2.0 should

be
>tranferring MUCH
>>fatser than your floppy drive ever dreamed of. If you

>have USB 2.0, this
>>will show it.
>>
>>
>>More detailed "Check Windows" method? (May not be

>accurate 100% of the time)
>>
>>Use the following steps to determine if your computer

has
>USB 1.1 or USB 2.0
>>ports.
>>
>>
>>Select your operating system:
>>
>>Windows® 98/Me
>>
>> 1.. Right-click the My Computer icon and select

>Properties.
>> 2.. Click the Device Manager tab.
>> 3.. Click the plus (+) sign next to Universal Serial

>Bus Controllers.
>>
>>
>> Note: If Universal Serial Bus Controllers is not

>listed, there is a
>>problem with the USB controller or the USB controller

is
>not enabled in the
>>computer's BIOS. Please contact the computer or card

>manufacturer for
>>updated drivers and/or for information on how to fix or

>enable the USB
>>controller.
>>
>> 1.. If Enhanced Host Controller and/or USB 2.0 Root

>Hub Device is
>> listed, then the computer has USB 2.0 ports.
>> 2.. If Universal Host Controller and/or Open Host

>Controller is listed,
>> then the computer has USB 1.1 ports.
>>
>>
>>Windows® 2000/XP
>>
>> 1.. Right-click the My Computer icon and select

Manage.
>> Note: Windows XP users may need to click Start to

access
>the
>> My Computer icon.
>> 2.. Click the Device Manager icon.
>> 3.. Click the plus (+) sign next to Universal Serial

>Bus Controllers.
>>
>> Note: If Universal Serial Bus Controllers is not

>listed, there is a
>>problem with the USB controller or the USB controller

is
>not enabled in the
>>computer's BIOS. Please contact the computer or card

>manufacturer for
>>updated drivers and/or for information on how to fix or

>enable the USB
>>controller.
>>
>> 1.. If Enhanced Host Controller and/or USB 2.0 Root

>Hub Device is
>> listed, then the computer has USB 2.0 ports.
>> 2.. If Universal Host Controller and/or Open Host

>Controller is listed,
>> then the computer has USB 1.1 ports.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Shenan Stanley
>>"Just trying to help"
>>-------------------------
>>How to use XPs Help and Support
>>http://tinyurl.com/fltf
>>
>>How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups
>>http://tinyurl.com/fkja
>>
>>How do I go about posting an informative question?
>>http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>How to use Google
>>http://www.google.com/help/basics.html
>>http://tinyurl.com/fkmc
>>-------------------------
>>
>>
>>.
>>

>.
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