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Can you recommend a good text search utility? (for WindowsXP, esp forOffice2003)

 
 
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      12th Nov 2009
WindowsXP Pro
msOffice 2003
Xara Xtreme Pro
MindManager
FreeMind
....} all latest versions


Hi

Can anyone recommend a utility for searching my local WindowsXP PC?

I need to do text searching across msOffice2003 files (e.g. Outlook,
Excel, Word).

(Optionally, I would IDEALLY also like to be able to search files
from: Xara Xtreme Pro, Mindjet's MindManager, FreeMind, plus HTML, PDF
files... but this is not a deal breaker.)

I have tried
- WindowXP's search
==> horrible. I have uninstalled it and use the previous version -
which is very slow but more accurate.
Fails to do outlook files.

- GoogleDesktop
==> Initially I was impressed, but now keeps failing to spider things.
Terrible at handling archivals of emails.

- Copernic Desktop (v3.2.1)
==> Takes literally *days* to spider/re-spider. Clunky & processor
hungry.
Not good at handling archivals of emails.

All I need something as powerful as Google websearch, but that runs
across my own PC !

For example exact phrase matching (e.g. by using double quotes around
a phrase)
For example negative matching - i.e. excluding certain phrases

I am becoming increasingly desperate!!

- Any thoughts?


Ship
Shiperton Henethe
 
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Leonard Grey
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      12th Nov 2009
Have you tried Google? That's what we do.
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Errare humanum est

ship wrote:
> WindowsXP Pro
> msOffice 2003
> Xara Xtreme Pro
> MindManager
> FreeMind
> ...} all latest versions
>
>
> Hi
>
> Can anyone recommend a utility for searching my local WindowsXP PC?
>
> I need to do text searching across msOffice2003 files (e.g. Outlook,
> Excel, Word).
>
> (Optionally, I would IDEALLY also like to be able to search files
> from: Xara Xtreme Pro, Mindjet's MindManager, FreeMind, plus HTML, PDF
> files... but this is not a deal breaker.)
>
> I have tried
> - WindowXP's search
> ==> horrible. I have uninstalled it and use the previous version -
> which is very slow but more accurate.
> Fails to do outlook files.
>
> - GoogleDesktop
> ==> Initially I was impressed, but now keeps failing to spider things.
> Terrible at handling archivals of emails.
>
> - Copernic Desktop (v3.2.1)
> ==> Takes literally *days* to spider/re-spider. Clunky & processor
> hungry.
> Not good at handling archivals of emails.
>
> All I need something as powerful as Google websearch, but that runs
> across my own PC !
>
> For example exact phrase matching (e.g. by using double quotes around
> a phrase)
> For example negative matching - i.e. excluding certain phrases
>
> I am becoming increasingly desperate!!
>
> - Any thoughts?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe

 
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Daave
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      12th Nov 2009
ship wrote:
> WindowsXP Pro
> msOffice 2003
> Xara Xtreme Pro
> MindManager
> FreeMind
> ...} all latest versions
>
>
> Hi
>
> Can anyone recommend a utility for searching my local WindowsXP PC?
>
> I need to do text searching across msOffice2003 files (e.g. Outlook,
> Excel, Word).
>
> (Optionally, I would IDEALLY also like to be able to search files
> from: Xara Xtreme Pro, Mindjet's MindManager, FreeMind, plus HTML, PDF
> files... but this is not a deal breaker.)
>
> I have tried
> - WindowXP's search
> ==> horrible. I have uninstalled it and use the previous version -
> which is very slow but more accurate.
> Fails to do outlook files.
>
> - GoogleDesktop
> ==> Initially I was impressed, but now keeps failing to spider things.
> Terrible at handling archivals of emails.
>
> - Copernic Desktop (v3.2.1)
> ==> Takes literally *days* to spider/re-spider. Clunky & processor
> hungry.
> Not good at handling archivals of emails.
>
> All I need something as powerful as Google websearch, but that runs
> across my own PC !
>
> For example exact phrase matching (e.g. by using double quotes around
> a phrase)
> For example negative matching - i.e. excluding certain phrases
>
> I am becoming increasingly desperate!!
>
> - Any thoughts?


http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/


 
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Twayne
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      12th Nov 2009
In news:1f1bfe3e-a0cc-4e20-a93a-(E-Mail Removed),
ship <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
> WindowsXP Pro
> msOffice 2003
> Xara Xtreme Pro
> MindManager
> FreeMind
> ...} all latest versions
>
>
> Hi
>
> Can anyone recommend a utility for searching my local WindowsXP PC?
>
> I need to do text searching across msOffice2003 files (e.g. Outlook,
> Excel, Word).
>
> (Optionally, I would IDEALLY also like to be able to search files
> from: Xara Xtreme Pro, Mindjet's MindManager, FreeMind, plus HTML, PDF
> files... but this is not a deal breaker.)
>
> I have tried
> - WindowXP's search
> ==> horrible. I have uninstalled it and use the previous version -
> which is very slow but more accurate.
> Fails to do outlook files.
>
> - GoogleDesktop
> ==> Initially I was impressed, but now keeps failing to spider things.
> Terrible at handling archivals of emails.
>
> - Copernic Desktop (v3.2.1)
> ==> Takes literally *days* to spider/re-spider. Clunky & processor
> hungry.
> Not good at handling archivals of emails.
>
> All I need something as powerful as Google websearch, but that runs
> across my own PC !
>
> For example exact phrase matching (e.g. by using double quotes around
> a phrase)
> For example negative matching - i.e. excluding certain phrases
>
> I am becoming increasingly desperate!!
>
> - Any thoughts?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe


Try PowerDesk at http://eau.v-com.com/product/PowerDesk_Pro_Home.html . If
you wish it'll even replace windows Explorer for you whenever something
calls for it. It's accurate, stable at rev7 and my only explorer-like
program anymore.
I don't know if there still is; there used to be a fully functilnal
freebie version avaiable but I don't see it offhand just now. IMO its best
use is in being able to put two folders up side by side for viewing and drag
n drop but the Find features are excellent.

HTH,

Twayne`



 
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      13th Nov 2009

"Daave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> ship wrote:
>> WindowsXP Pro
>> msOffice 2003
>> Xara Xtreme Pro
>> MindManager
>> FreeMind
>> ...} all latest versions
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a utility for searching my local WindowsXP PC?
>>
>> I need to do text searching across msOffice2003 files (e.g. Outlook,
>> Excel, Word).
>>
>> (Optionally, I would IDEALLY also like to be able to search files
>> from: Xara Xtreme Pro, Mindjet's MindManager, FreeMind, plus HTML, PDF
>> files... but this is not a deal breaker.)
>>
>> I have tried
>> - WindowXP's search
>> ==> horrible. I have uninstalled it and use the previous version -
>> which is very slow but more accurate.
>> Fails to do outlook files.
>>
>> - GoogleDesktop
>> ==> Initially I was impressed, but now keeps failing to spider things.
>> Terrible at handling archivals of emails.
>>
>> - Copernic Desktop (v3.2.1)
>> ==> Takes literally *days* to spider/re-spider. Clunky & processor
>> hungry.
>> Not good at handling archivals of emails.
>>
>> All I need something as powerful as Google websearch, but that runs
>> across my own PC !
>>
>> For example exact phrase matching (e.g. by using double quotes around
>> a phrase)
>> For example negative matching - i.e. excluding certain phrases
>>
>> I am becoming increasingly desperate!!
>>
>> - Any thoughts?

>
> http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/
>


Seconded. Always one of the first things I put on a new XP setup.


 
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ship
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      13th Nov 2009

Er do you mean Google Desktop?
If so the answer is yes (see original post)
It is bl**dy terrible. Certain emails in outlook it repeatedly fails
to spider (despite being completely un-installed and re-installed).
And yes I even ran scanpst.exe across the PST files in question. But
still no good...
Also if I archive from one PST file to another, it utterly fails to
notice. Not impressed. :^(


Ship


On Nov 12, 3:32*pm, Leonard Grey <l.g...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Have you tried Google? That's what we do.
> ---
> Leonard Grey
> Errare humanum est
>
>
>
> ship wrote:
> > WindowsXP Pro
> > msOffice 2003
> > Xara Xtreme Pro
> > MindManager
> > FreeMind
> > ...} all latest versions

>
> > Hi

>
> > Can anyone recommend a utility for searching my local WindowsXP PC?

>
> > I need to do text searching across msOffice2003 files (e.g. Outlook,
> > Excel, Word).

>
> > (Optionally, I would IDEALLY also like to be able to search files
> > from: Xara Xtreme Pro, Mindjet's MindManager, FreeMind, plus HTML, PDF
> > files... but this is not a deal breaker.)

>
> > I have tried
> > - WindowXP's search
> > ==> horrible. I have uninstalled it and use the previous version -
> > which is very slow but more accurate.
> > * * * *Fails to do outlook files.

>
> > - GoogleDesktop
> > ==> Initially I was impressed, but now keeps failing to spider things.
> > Terrible at handling archivals of emails.

>
> > - Copernic Desktop (v3.2.1)
> > ==> Takes literally *days* to spider/re-spider. Clunky & processor
> > hungry.
> > * * * *Not good at handling archivals of emails.

>
> > All I need something as powerful as Google websearch, but that runs
> > across my own PC !

>
> > For example exact phrase matching (e.g. by using double quotes around
> > a phrase)
> > For example negative matching - i.e. excluding certain phrases

>
> > I am becoming increasingly desperate!!

>
> > - Any thoughts?

>
> > Ship
> >ShipertonHenethe


 
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On Nov 12, 7:13*pm, "Twayne" <nob...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> Innews:1f1bfe3e-a0cc-4e20-a93a-(E-Mail Removed),
> ship <ship...@gmail.com> typed:
>
>
>
>
>
> > WindowsXP Pro
> > msOffice 2003
> > Xara Xtreme Pro
> > MindManager
> > FreeMind
> > ...} all latest versions

>
> > Hi

>
> > Can anyone recommend a utility for searching my local WindowsXP PC?

>
> > I need to do text searching across msOffice2003 files (e.g. Outlook,
> > Excel, Word).

>
> > (Optionally, I would IDEALLY also like to be able to search files
> > from: Xara Xtreme Pro, Mindjet's MindManager, FreeMind, plus HTML, PDF
> > files... but this is not a deal breaker.)

>
> > I have tried
> > - WindowXP's search
> > ==> horrible. I have uninstalled it and use the previous version -
> > which is very slow but more accurate.
> > * * * Fails to do outlook files.

>
> > - GoogleDesktop
> > ==> Initially I was impressed, but now keeps failing to spider things.
> > Terrible at handling archivals of emails.

>
> > - Copernic Desktop (v3.2.1)
> > ==> Takes literally *days* to spider/re-spider. Clunky & processor
> > hungry.
> > * * * Not good at handling archivals of emails.

>
> > All I need something as powerful as Google websearch, but that runs
> > across my own PC !

>
> > For example exact phrase matching (e.g. by using double quotes around
> > a phrase)
> > For example negative matching - i.e. excluding certain phrases

>
> > I am becoming increasingly desperate!!

>
> > - Any thoughts?

>
> > Ship
> >ShipertonHenethe

>
> Try PowerDesk at *http://eau.v-com.com/product/PowerDesk_Pro_Home.html.*If
> you wish it'll even replace windows Explorer for you whenever something
> calls for it. It's accurate, stable at rev7 and my only explorer-like
> program anymore.
> * *I don't know if there still is; there used to be a fully functilnal
> freebie version avaiable but I don't see it offhand just now. *IMO its best
> use is in being able to put two folders up side by side for viewing and drag
> n drop but the Find features are excellent.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I have just installed Desktop 7. Although I agree that it looks quite
interesting/powerful, it's search is not. I need something FAST i.e.
that does actually spider my documents.

Ship

 
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Twayne
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      13th Nov 2009
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ship <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
> On Nov 12, 7:13 pm, "Twayne" <nob...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>> Innews:1f1bfe3e-a0cc-4e20-a93a-(E-Mail Removed),
>> ship <ship...@gmail.com> typed:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> WindowsXP Pro
>>> msOffice 2003
>>> Xara Xtreme Pro
>>> MindManager
>>> FreeMind
>>> ...} all latest versions

>>
>>> Hi

>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a utility for searching my local WindowsXP PC?

>>
>>> I need to do text searching across msOffice2003 files (e.g. Outlook,
>>> Excel, Word).

>>
>>> (Optionally, I would IDEALLY also like to be able to search files
>>> from: Xara Xtreme Pro, Mindjet's MindManager, FreeMind, plus HTML,
>>> PDF files... but this is not a deal breaker.)

>>
>>> I have tried
>>> - WindowXP's search
>>> ==> horrible. I have uninstalled it and use the previous version -
>>> which is very slow but more accurate.
>>> Fails to do outlook files.

>>
>>> - GoogleDesktop
>>> ==> Initially I was impressed, but now keeps failing to spider
>>> things. Terrible at handling archivals of emails.

>>
>>> - Copernic Desktop (v3.2.1)
>>> ==> Takes literally *days* to spider/re-spider. Clunky & processor
>>> hungry.
>>> Not good at handling archivals of emails.

>>
>>> All I need something as powerful as Google websearch, but that runs
>>> across my own PC !

>>
>>> For example exact phrase matching (e.g. by using double quotes
>>> around a phrase)
>>> For example negative matching - i.e. excluding certain phrases

>>
>>> I am becoming increasingly desperate!!

>>
>>> - Any thoughts?

>>
>>> Ship
>>> ShipertonHenethe

>>
>> Try PowerDesk at
>> http://eau.v-com.com/product/PowerDesk_Pro_Home.html. If you wish
>> it'll even replace windows Explorer for you whenever something calls
>> for it. It's accurate, stable at rev7 and my only explorer-like
>> program anymore.
>> I don't know if there still is; there used to be a fully functilnal
>> freebie version avaiable but I don't see it offhand just now. IMO
>> its best use is in being able to put two folders up side by side for
>> viewing and drag n drop but the Find features are excellent.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Twayne`- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I have just installed Desktop 7. Although I agree that it looks quite
> interesting/powerful, it's search is not. I need something FAST i.e.
> that does actually spider my documents.
>
> Ship


Hmm, it should be fast. Are you using the FileFind feature? All of the
contexts work too, such as text within the document, date ranges, only
certain types of files, etc. etc..
FileFind, BTW is a standalone: You don't have to run PD to use it; just
make a shortcut to the executable in the PD folder in program files.

The only way I've found to get faster is to drop into the command prompt and
use DIR and /s etc. to search.

Sorry it's not working out for you; I tried<g>.

HTH,

Twayne`


 
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      13th Nov 2009
In news:42fc8129-20cf-432c-a15d-(E-Mail Removed),
ship <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
> On Nov 12, 7:13 pm, "Twayne" <nob...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>> Innews:1f1bfe3e-a0cc-4e20-a93a-(E-Mail Removed),
>> ship <ship...@gmail.com> typed:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> WindowsXP Pro
>>> msOffice 2003
>>> Xara Xtreme Pro
>>> MindManager
>>> FreeMind
>>> ...} all latest versions

>>
>>> Hi

>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a utility for searching my local WindowsXP PC?

>>
>>> I need to do text searching across msOffice2003 files (e.g. Outlook,
>>> Excel, Word).

>>
>>> (Optionally, I would IDEALLY also like to be able to search files
>>> from: Xara Xtreme Pro, Mindjet's MindManager, FreeMind, plus HTML,
>>> PDF files... but this is not a deal breaker.)

>>
>>> I have tried
>>> - WindowXP's search
>>> ==> horrible. I have uninstalled it and use the previous version -
>>> which is very slow but more accurate.
>>> Fails to do outlook files.

>>
>>> - GoogleDesktop
>>> ==> Initially I was impressed, but now keeps failing to spider
>>> things. Terrible at handling archivals of emails.

>>
>>> - Copernic Desktop (v3.2.1)
>>> ==> Takes literally *days* to spider/re-spider. Clunky & processor
>>> hungry.
>>> Not good at handling archivals of emails.

>>
>>> All I need something as powerful as Google websearch, but that runs
>>> across my own PC !

>>
>>> For example exact phrase matching (e.g. by using double quotes
>>> around a phrase)
>>> For example negative matching - i.e. excluding certain phrases

>>
>>> I am becoming increasingly desperate!!

>>
>>> - Any thoughts?

>>
>>> Ship
>>> ShipertonHenethe

>>
>> Try PowerDesk at
>> http://eau.v-com.com/product/PowerDesk_Pro_Home.html. If you wish
>> it'll even replace windows Explorer for you whenever something calls
>> for it. It's accurate, stable at rev7 and my only explorer-like
>> program anymore.
>> I don't know if there still is; there used to be a fully functilnal
>> freebie version avaiable but I don't see it offhand just now. IMO
>> its best use is in being able to put two folders up side by side for
>> viewing and drag n drop but the Find features are excellent.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Twayne`- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I have just installed Desktop 7. Although I agree that it looks quite
> interesting/powerful, it's search is not. I need something FAST i.e.
> that does actually spider my documents.
>
> Ship


PS - sounds like it's time for batch files with replaceable parameters?
Just a thought.

HTH,

Twayne`


 
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On Nov 13, 9:26*am, "Olórin" <inca...@erkljrjre890aeraekj4na.com>
wrote:
> "Daave" <da...@example.com> wrote in message
>
> news:uLBxM%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
>
>
> > ship wrote:
> >> WindowsXP Pro
> >> msOffice 2003
> >> Xara Xtreme Pro
> >> MindManager
> >> FreeMind
> >> ...} all latest versions

>
> >> Hi

>
> >> Can anyone recommend a utility for searching my local WindowsXP PC?

>
> >> I need to do text searching across msOffice2003 files (e.g. Outlook,
> >> Excel, Word).

>
> >> (Optionally, I would IDEALLY also like to be able to search files
> >> from: Xara Xtreme Pro, Mindjet's MindManager, FreeMind, plus HTML, PDF
> >> files... but this is not a deal breaker.)

>
> >> I have tried
> >> - WindowXP's search
> >> ==> horrible. I have uninstalled it and use the previous version -
> >> which is very slow but more accurate.
> >> * * * Fails to do outlook files.

>
> >> - GoogleDesktop
> >> ==> Initially I was impressed, but now keeps failing to spider things.
> >> Terrible at handling archivals of emails.

>
> >> - Copernic Desktop (v3.2.1)
> >> ==> Takes literally *days* to spider/re-spider. Clunky & processor
> >> hungry.
> >> * * * Not good at handling archivals of emails.

>
> >> All I need something as powerful as Google websearch, but that runs
> >> across my own PC !

>
> >> For example exact phrase matching (e.g. by using double quotes around
> >> a phrase)
> >> For example negative matching - i.e. excluding certain phrases

>
> >> I am becoming increasingly desperate!!

>
> >> - Any thoughts?

>
> >http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

>
> Seconded. Always one of the first things I put on a new XP setup.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Yes I have just installed Agent Ransack. I agree it's quite impressive
at what it does.
BUT
a) It doesn't seem to do emails (i.e. Outlook2003 .PST files)
b) It doesn't seem to pre-index things first and is that relatively
slow.

A good thought and useful if the likes of Google desktop are failing
me...
....but not ideal.

Ship

 
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