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Can Windows Lose a PATA HDD or is it knackered?

 
 
Kardon Coupé
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      15th May 2008
Dear All,

The other day I did a reset on my pc, it took forever to reset, then I'd
lost a drive......

Fearing the worst, I went on the hunt for HDD recovery programs..

The Drive is (when plugged in) showing in device manager, but not Disk
managment.

When plugged in machine takes forever to start up, the blue bar scrolls and
scrolls (which gives me slight doubts the OS is corrupt), using any 3rd
party apps won't detect the drive, but Seatools Win32 see's it, but causes
problems when 'detecting drives', so I thought, ok, DOS Based ISO Disk to
book, which I did, and it see's it, and did an advanced test didn't come up
with any errors? When the machine has booted up (after ages) when I'm doing
stuff, windows appears to be looking at the (or a) drive, HDD light on for
ages, and applications slow or even freeze for a few mins....

I'm wondering if something has mucked my pc up, some how? I did have an
issue with my Email Client, which I needed to re-install IE6 to IE7 to get
it fixed, I've scanned my pc for spyware, etc, but I'm thinking maybe (or
hopefully) there is something I can fix or change whilst the HDD is not
connected, so when I reset it re-detects it, and fixes the issues.......

I Don't want to have to resort to a re-install if the drive is knackered....

Hope someone can point me in the right direction before I relegate the HDD
to the bin and lose all the stuff on it.

Regards
Paul.


 
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smlunatick
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      15th May 2008
Happened to me last May (2007.) My primary drive got a corrupted MFT section.
Replaced it and "shelved" my old drive.

Then, in Feb 2008, I placed my older drive into a USB case and went searching
for disk data recovery systems.

TestDisk was able to "rebuild" the partition (in RAM) but somehow I could not
save files.

File Scavenger found all my files but the "free" features only allow the
recovery (to a different hard drive) small files.



On 15/05/2008 "Kardon Coupé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>The other day I did a reset on my pc, it took forever to reset, then I'd
>lost a drive......
>
>Fearing the worst, I went on the hunt for HDD recovery programs..
>
>The Drive is (when plugged in) showing in device manager, but not Disk
>managment.
>
>When plugged in machine takes forever to start up, the blue bar scrolls and
>scrolls (which gives me slight doubts the OS is corrupt), using any 3rd
>party apps won't detect the drive, but Seatools Win32 see's it, but causes
>problems when 'detecting drives', so I thought, ok, DOS Based ISO Disk to
>book, which I did, and it see's it, and did an advanced test didn't come up
>with any errors? When the machine has booted up (after ages) when I'm doing
>stuff, windows appears to be looking at the (or a) drive, HDD light on for
>ages, and applications slow or even freeze for a few mins....
>
>I'm wondering if something has mucked my pc up, some how? I did have an
>issue with my Email Client, which I needed to re-install IE6 to IE7 to get
>it fixed, I've scanned my pc for spyware, etc, but I'm thinking maybe (or
>hopefully) there is something I can fix or change whilst the HDD is not
>connected, so when I reset it re-detects it, and fixes the issues.......
>
>I Don't want to have to resort to a re-install if the drive is knackered....
>
>Hope someone can point me in the right direction before I relegate the HDD
>to the bin and lose all the stuff on it.
>
>Regards
>Paul.
>
>

 
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Kardon Coupé
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      15th May 2008
Thanks for the info, I'll have a go at that tomorrow....

"smlunatick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
Happened to me last May (2007.) My primary drive got a corrupted MFT
section.
Replaced it and "shelved" my old drive.

Then, in Feb 2008, I placed my older drive into a USB case and went
searching
for disk data recovery systems.

TestDisk was able to "rebuild" the partition (in RAM) but somehow I could
not
save files.

File Scavenger found all my files but the "free" features only allow the
recovery (to a different hard drive) small files.



On 15/05/2008 "Kardon Coupé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>The other day I did a reset on my pc, it took forever to reset, then I'd
>lost a drive......
>
>Fearing the worst, I went on the hunt for HDD recovery programs..
>
>The Drive is (when plugged in) showing in device manager, but not Disk
>managment.
>
>When plugged in machine takes forever to start up, the blue bar scrolls and
>scrolls (which gives me slight doubts the OS is corrupt), using any 3rd
>party apps won't detect the drive, but Seatools Win32 see's it, but causes
>problems when 'detecting drives', so I thought, ok, DOS Based ISO Disk to
>book, which I did, and it see's it, and did an advanced test didn't come up
>with any errors? When the machine has booted up (after ages) when I'm doing
>stuff, windows appears to be looking at the (or a) drive, HDD light on for
>ages, and applications slow or even freeze for a few mins....
>
>I'm wondering if something has mucked my pc up, some how? I did have an
>issue with my Email Client, which I needed to re-install IE6 to IE7 to get
>it fixed, I've scanned my pc for spyware, etc, but I'm thinking maybe (or
>hopefully) there is something I can fix or change whilst the HDD is not
>connected, so when I reset it re-detects it, and fixes the issues.......
>
>I Don't want to have to resort to a re-install if the drive is
>knackered....
>
>Hope someone can point me in the right direction before I relegate the HDD
>to the bin and lose all the stuff on it.
>
>Regards
>Paul.
>
>



 
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Kenny
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      16th May 2008
I've had success recovering files from an apparently dead HDD with Easy
Recovery Pro.
Also HDD Regenerator apparently "fixed" an HDD with numerous bad sectors.

--
Kenny Cargill




"Kardon Coupé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for the info, I'll have a go at that tomorrow....
>
> "smlunatick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Happened to me last May (2007.) My primary drive got a corrupted MFT
> section.
> Replaced it and "shelved" my old drive.
>
> Then, in Feb 2008, I placed my older drive into a USB case and went
> searching
> for disk data recovery systems.
>
> TestDisk was able to "rebuild" the partition (in RAM) but somehow I could
> not
> save files.
>
> File Scavenger found all my files but the "free" features only allow the
> recovery (to a different hard drive) small files.
>
>
>
> On 15/05/2008 "Kardon Coupé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Dear All,
>>
>>The other day I did a reset on my pc, it took forever to reset, then I'd
>>lost a drive......
>>
>>Fearing the worst, I went on the hunt for HDD recovery programs..
>>
>>The Drive is (when plugged in) showing in device manager, but not Disk
>>managment.
>>
>>When plugged in machine takes forever to start up, the blue bar scrolls
>>and
>>scrolls (which gives me slight doubts the OS is corrupt), using any 3rd
>>party apps won't detect the drive, but Seatools Win32 see's it, but causes
>>problems when 'detecting drives', so I thought, ok, DOS Based ISO Disk to
>>book, which I did, and it see's it, and did an advanced test didn't come
>>up
>>with any errors? When the machine has booted up (after ages) when I'm
>>doing
>>stuff, windows appears to be looking at the (or a) drive, HDD light on for
>>ages, and applications slow or even freeze for a few mins....
>>
>>I'm wondering if something has mucked my pc up, some how? I did have an
>>issue with my Email Client, which I needed to re-install IE6 to IE7 to get
>>it fixed, I've scanned my pc for spyware, etc, but I'm thinking maybe (or
>>hopefully) there is something I can fix or change whilst the HDD is not
>>connected, so when I reset it re-detects it, and fixes the issues.......
>>
>>I Don't want to have to resort to a re-install if the drive is
>>knackered....
>>
>>Hope someone can point me in the right direction before I relegate the HDD
>>to the bin and lose all the stuff on it.
>>
>>Regards
>>Paul.
>>
>>

>
>



 
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Kardon Coupé
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      21st May 2008
Very Confused......

Finally got around to removing the drive and chucking it on the USB
Adapter/Caddy and fearing the worst, I plugged it, windows detected it, and
read it like there was nothing wrong?

I'm error checking (chkdsk) it now, just to see, failing that, I'm stumped
as to why when it was connected to the IDE cable it was causing problems.

Any other pointers I should be looking out for?

Regards

"Kenny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've had success recovering files from an apparently dead HDD with Easy
> Recovery Pro.
> Also HDD Regenerator apparently "fixed" an HDD with numerous bad sectors.
>
> --
> Kenny Cargill
>
>
>
>
> "Kardon Coupé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks for the info, I'll have a go at that tomorrow....
>>
>> "smlunatick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Happened to me last May (2007.) My primary drive got a corrupted MFT
>> section.
>> Replaced it and "shelved" my old drive.
>>
>> Then, in Feb 2008, I placed my older drive into a USB case and went
>> searching
>> for disk data recovery systems.
>>
>> TestDisk was able to "rebuild" the partition (in RAM) but somehow I could
>> not
>> save files.
>>
>> File Scavenger found all my files but the "free" features only allow the
>> recovery (to a different hard drive) small files.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15/05/2008 "Kardon Coupé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>Dear All,
>>>
>>>The other day I did a reset on my pc, it took forever to reset, then I'd
>>>lost a drive......
>>>
>>>Fearing the worst, I went on the hunt for HDD recovery programs..
>>>
>>>The Drive is (when plugged in) showing in device manager, but not Disk
>>>managment.
>>>
>>>When plugged in machine takes forever to start up, the blue bar scrolls
>>>and
>>>scrolls (which gives me slight doubts the OS is corrupt), using any 3rd
>>>party apps won't detect the drive, but Seatools Win32 see's it, but
>>>causes
>>>problems when 'detecting drives', so I thought, ok, DOS Based ISO Disk to
>>>book, which I did, and it see's it, and did an advanced test didn't come
>>>up
>>>with any errors? When the machine has booted up (after ages) when I'm
>>>doing
>>>stuff, windows appears to be looking at the (or a) drive, HDD light on
>>>for
>>>ages, and applications slow or even freeze for a few mins....
>>>
>>>I'm wondering if something has mucked my pc up, some how? I did have an
>>>issue with my Email Client, which I needed to re-install IE6 to IE7 to
>>>get
>>>it fixed, I've scanned my pc for spyware, etc, but I'm thinking maybe (or
>>>hopefully) there is something I can fix or change whilst the HDD is not
>>>connected, so when I reset it re-detects it, and fixes the issues.......
>>>
>>>I Don't want to have to resort to a re-install if the drive is
>>>knackered....
>>>
>>>Hope someone can point me in the right direction before I relegate the
>>>HDD
>>>to the bin and lose all the stuff on it.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Paul.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
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Kardon Coupé
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      21st May 2008
Cancel that last message...

After a while of scan disking it, it failed, I think it is an heating issue
and it is defo on it's way out....

I'm gonna let it cool down and grab off it what i can..... and replace
it....

"Kardon Coupé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Very Confused......
>
> Finally got around to removing the drive and chucking it on the USB
> Adapter/Caddy and fearing the worst, I plugged it, windows detected it,
> and read it like there was nothing wrong?
>
> I'm error checking (chkdsk) it now, just to see, failing that, I'm stumped
> as to why when it was connected to the IDE cable it was causing problems.
>
> Any other pointers I should be looking out for?
>
> Regards
>
> "Kenny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I've had success recovering files from an apparently dead HDD with Easy
>> Recovery Pro.
>> Also HDD Regenerator apparently "fixed" an HDD with numerous bad sectors.
>>
>> --
>> Kenny Cargill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kardon Coupé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Thanks for the info, I'll have a go at that tomorrow....
>>>
>>> "smlunatick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Happened to me last May (2007.) My primary drive got a corrupted MFT
>>> section.
>>> Replaced it and "shelved" my old drive.
>>>
>>> Then, in Feb 2008, I placed my older drive into a USB case and went
>>> searching
>>> for disk data recovery systems.
>>>
>>> TestDisk was able to "rebuild" the partition (in RAM) but somehow I
>>> could not
>>> save files.
>>>
>>> File Scavenger found all my files but the "free" features only allow the
>>> recovery (to a different hard drive) small files.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15/05/2008 "Kardon Coupé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>The other day I did a reset on my pc, it took forever to reset, then I'd
>>>>lost a drive......
>>>>
>>>>Fearing the worst, I went on the hunt for HDD recovery programs..
>>>>
>>>>The Drive is (when plugged in) showing in device manager, but not Disk
>>>>managment.
>>>>
>>>>When plugged in machine takes forever to start up, the blue bar scrolls
>>>>and
>>>>scrolls (which gives me slight doubts the OS is corrupt), using any 3rd
>>>>party apps won't detect the drive, but Seatools Win32 see's it, but
>>>>causes
>>>>problems when 'detecting drives', so I thought, ok, DOS Based ISO Disk
>>>>to
>>>>book, which I did, and it see's it, and did an advanced test didn't come
>>>>up
>>>>with any errors? When the machine has booted up (after ages) when I'm
>>>>doing
>>>>stuff, windows appears to be looking at the (or a) drive, HDD light on
>>>>for
>>>>ages, and applications slow or even freeze for a few mins....
>>>>
>>>>I'm wondering if something has mucked my pc up, some how? I did have an
>>>>issue with my Email Client, which I needed to re-install IE6 to IE7 to
>>>>get
>>>>it fixed, I've scanned my pc for spyware, etc, but I'm thinking maybe
>>>>(or
>>>>hopefully) there is something I can fix or change whilst the HDD is not
>>>>connected, so when I reset it re-detects it, and fixes the issues.......
>>>>
>>>>I Don't want to have to resort to a re-install if the drive is
>>>>knackered....
>>>>
>>>>Hope someone can point me in the right direction before I relegate the
>>>>HDD
>>>>to the bin and lose all the stuff on it.
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Paul.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
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smlunatick
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      21st May 2008
On May 21, 2:12*pm, "Kardon Coupé" <prefer...@readon.newsgroups>
wrote:
> Cancel that last message...
>
> After a while of scan disking it, it failed, I think it is an heating issue
> and it is defo on it's way out....
>
> I'm gonna let it cool down and grab off it what i can..... and replace
> it....
>
> "Kardon Coupé" <prefer...@readon.newsgroups> wrote in message
>
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
> > Very Confused......

>
> > Finally got around to removing the drive and chucking it on the USB
> > Adapter/Caddy and fearing the worst, I plugged it, windows detected it,
> > and read it like there was nothing wrong?

>
> > I'm error checking (chkdsk) it now, just to see, failing that, I'm stumped
> > as to why when it was connected to the IDE cable it was causing problems..

>
> > Any other pointers I should be looking out for?

>
> > Regards

>
> > "Kenny" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I've had success recovering files from an apparently dead HDD with Easy
> >> Recovery Pro.
> >> Also HDD Regenerator apparently "fixed" an HDD with numerous bad sectors.

>
> >> --
> >> Kenny Cargill

>
> >> "Kardon Coupé" <prefer...@readon.newsgroups> wrote in message
> >>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> Thanks for the info, I'll have a go at that tomorrow....

>
> >>> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> Happened to me last May (2007.) *My primary drive got a corrupted MFT
> >>> section.
> >>> Replaced it and "shelved" my old drive.

>
> >>> Then, in Feb 2008, I placed my older drive into a USB case and went
> >>> searching
> >>> for disk data recovery systems.

>
> >>> TestDisk was able to "rebuild" the partition (in RAM) but somehow I
> >>> could not
> >>> save files.

>
> >>> File Scavenger found all my files but the "free" features only allow the
> >>> recovery (to a different hard drive) small files.

>
> >>> On 15/05/2008 "Kardon Coupé" <prefer...@readon.newsgroups> wrote:
> >>>>Dear All,

>
> >>>>The other day I did a reset on my pc, it took forever to reset, then I'd
> >>>>lost a drive......

>
> >>>>Fearing the worst, I went on the hunt for HDD recovery programs..

>
> >>>>The Drive is (when plugged in) showing in device manager, but not Disk
> >>>>managment.

>
> >>>>When plugged in machine takes forever to start up, the blue bar scrolls
> >>>>and
> >>>>scrolls (which gives me slight doubts the OS is corrupt), using any 3rd
> >>>>party apps won't detect the drive, but Seatools Win32 see's it, but
> >>>>causes
> >>>>problems when 'detecting drives', so I thought, ok, DOS Based ISO Disk
> >>>>to
> >>>>book, which I did, and it see's it, and did an advanced test didn't come
> >>>>up
> >>>>with any errors? When the machine has booted up (after ages) when I'm
> >>>>doing
> >>>>stuff, windows appears to be looking at the (or a) drive, HDD light on
> >>>>for
> >>>>ages, and applications slow or even freeze for a few mins....

>
> >>>>I'm wondering if something has mucked my pc up, some how? I did have an
> >>>>issue with my Email Client, which I needed to re-install IE6 to IE7 to
> >>>>get
> >>>>it fixed, I've scanned my pc for spyware, etc, but I'm thinking maybe
> >>>>(or
> >>>>hopefully) there is something I can fix or change whilst the HDD is not
> >>>>connected, so when I reset it re-detects it, and fixes the issues........

>
> >>>>I Don't want to have to resort to a re-install if the drive is
> >>>>knackered....

>
> >>>>Hope someone can point me in the right direction before I relegate the
> >>>>HDD
> >>>>to the bin and lose all the stuff on it.

>
> >>>>Regards
> >>>>Paul.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


One suggestion to help to keep the drive cool during the recovery:

Get a desk fan and direct the airflow over the drive.
 
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Kardon Coupé
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      22nd May 2008
Well, managed to get all my stuff on the defunct hdd... =-)

on a plus side, I'd managed to fry a pcb on a similar hdd 12 months ago
(them silly molex splitters that the plastic is very soft, and I managed to
put it in the wroing way around), luckily I kept it, I swapped the PCB's
over, and whazam, managed to access that too....Bonus....

Thanks for all your help and advice....
Regards
Paul.

"smlunatick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:b146e270-ece6-429b-9db6-(E-Mail Removed)...
On May 21, 2:12 pm, "Kardon Coupé" <prefer...@readon.newsgroups>
wrote:
> Cancel that last message...
>
> After a while of scan disking it, it failed, I think it is an heating
> issue
> and it is defo on it's way out....
>
> I'm gonna let it cool down and grab off it what i can..... and replace
> it....
>
> "Kardon Coupé" <prefer...@readon.newsgroups> wrote in message
>
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
> > Very Confused......

>
> > Finally got around to removing the drive and chucking it on the USB
> > Adapter/Caddy and fearing the worst, I plugged it, windows detected it,
> > and read it like there was nothing wrong?

>
> > I'm error checking (chkdsk) it now, just to see, failing that, I'm
> > stumped
> > as to why when it was connected to the IDE cable it was causing
> > problems.

>
> > Any other pointers I should be looking out for?

>
> > Regards

>
> > "Kenny" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I've had success recovering files from an apparently dead HDD with Easy
> >> Recovery Pro.
> >> Also HDD Regenerator apparently "fixed" an HDD with numerous bad
> >> sectors.

>
> >> --
> >> Kenny Cargill

>
> >> "Kardon Coupé" <prefer...@readon.newsgroups> wrote in message
> >>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> Thanks for the info, I'll have a go at that tomorrow....

>
> >>> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> Happened to me last May (2007.) My primary drive got a corrupted MFT
> >>> section.
> >>> Replaced it and "shelved" my old drive.

>
> >>> Then, in Feb 2008, I placed my older drive into a USB case and went
> >>> searching
> >>> for disk data recovery systems.

>
> >>> TestDisk was able to "rebuild" the partition (in RAM) but somehow I
> >>> could not
> >>> save files.

>
> >>> File Scavenger found all my files but the "free" features only allow
> >>> the
> >>> recovery (to a different hard drive) small files.

>
> >>> On 15/05/2008 "Kardon Coupé" <prefer...@readon.newsgroups> wrote:
> >>>>Dear All,

>
> >>>>The other day I did a reset on my pc, it took forever to reset, then
> >>>>I'd
> >>>>lost a drive......

>
> >>>>Fearing the worst, I went on the hunt for HDD recovery programs..

>
> >>>>The Drive is (when plugged in) showing in device manager, but not Disk
> >>>>managment.

>
> >>>>When plugged in machine takes forever to start up, the blue bar
> >>>>scrolls
> >>>>and
> >>>>scrolls (which gives me slight doubts the OS is corrupt), using any
> >>>>3rd
> >>>>party apps won't detect the drive, but Seatools Win32 see's it, but
> >>>>causes
> >>>>problems when 'detecting drives', so I thought, ok, DOS Based ISO Disk
> >>>>to
> >>>>book, which I did, and it see's it, and did an advanced test didn't
> >>>>come
> >>>>up
> >>>>with any errors? When the machine has booted up (after ages) when I'm
> >>>>doing
> >>>>stuff, windows appears to be looking at the (or a) drive, HDD light on
> >>>>for
> >>>>ages, and applications slow or even freeze for a few mins....

>
> >>>>I'm wondering if something has mucked my pc up, some how? I did have
> >>>>an
> >>>>issue with my Email Client, which I needed to re-install IE6 to IE7 to
> >>>>get
> >>>>it fixed, I've scanned my pc for spyware, etc, but I'm thinking maybe
> >>>>(or
> >>>>hopefully) there is something I can fix or change whilst the HDD is
> >>>>not
> >>>>connected, so when I reset it re-detects it, and fixes the
> >>>>issues.......

>
> >>>>I Don't want to have to resort to a re-install if the drive is
> >>>>knackered....

>
> >>>>Hope someone can point me in the right direction before I relegate the
> >>>>HDD
> >>>>to the bin and lose all the stuff on it.

>
> >>>>Regards
> >>>>Paul.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


One suggestion to help to keep the drive cool during the recovery:

Get a desk fan and direct the airflow over the drive.


 
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