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jack34
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      9th Aug 2011
I was downloading a video from a web site when my AV popped up and said
that a dll in the program I was using to download the video was
infected. The downloading program was one I have used for a long time,
a legitimate piece of software. So is it possible that the download
site somehow infected the dll or the downloader program? I never did
get the video.

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MarcusT
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      9th Aug 2011
jack34 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:Xns9F3CACABC11C4samnonenet@88.198.244.100:

> I was downloading a video from a web site when my AV popped up and
> said that a dll in the program I was using to download the video
> was infected. The downloading program was one I have used for a
> long time, a legitimate piece of software. So is it possible that
> the download site somehow infected the dll or the downloader
> program? I never did get the video.
>
> ?
>


AVG has replied to the "infected" dll file I sent them. It was a false
alarm. I neglected to state that I had just updated the downloading
program I was using. It was the first time I used it since updating it.

I am still interested in the answer to the original question: Can a Web
site infect you when you download a legitimate video file? I use the
term "legitimate" because there are many videos up there. I have
downloaded from it many times before with no problem. Could the person
who uploaded that video have tinkered with it a bit? Or is it simply
possible to send a virus/trojan down along with the video?
 
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David H. Lipman
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      9th Aug 2011
From: "jack34" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> I was downloading a video from a web site when my AV popped up and said
> that a dll in the program I was using to download the video was
> infected. The downloading program was one I have used for a long time,
> a legitimate piece of software. So is it possible that the download
> site somehow infected the dll or the downloader program? I never did
> get the video.


There are trojans (ex: wimad) that exploit Windows DRM in media files.

There are illegitimate video and/or audio CODEC files that are actually trojans.

As for your software specifically, it may be a case of a False Positive noted by your
stating you have used it for a long time.

Without specific information that's about all I can respond with.



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jack34
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      9th Aug 2011
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
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> From: "jack34" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>
>> I was downloading a video from a web site when my AV popped up
>> and said that a dll in the program I was using to download the
>> video was infected. The downloading program was one I have used
>> for a long time, a legitimate piece of software. So is it
>> possible that the download site somehow infected the dll or the
>> downloader program? I never did get the video.

>
> There are trojans (ex: wimad) that exploit Windows DRM in media
> files.
>
> There are illegitimate video and/or audio CODEC files that are
> actually trojans.
>
> As for your software specifically, it may be a case of a False
> Positive noted by your stating you have used it for a long time.
>
> Without specific information that's about all I can respond with.
>


I just received an answer from my AV company. It was a false positive.


As far as I know, it was not a DRM protected file.

Codec files aside, is it possible to download a virus/trojan when
downloading a video file? I'd like to know for future reference.

P.S. Ignore the MarcusT post. I got my "nicks" crossed up. )





 
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FromTheRafters
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      9th Aug 2011
jack34 wrote:
> I was downloading a video from a web site when my AV popped up and said
> that a dll in the program I was using to download the video was
> infected. The downloading program was one I have used for a long time,
> a legitimate piece of software. So is it possible that the download
> site somehow infected the dll or the downloader program? I never did
> get the video.
>
> ?


Possible, yes, if the mystery downloading program is vulnerable and the
mystery website is serving exploits for that vulnerability.

Any time a program on your machine consumes data from elsewhere there is
a chance to be infected. You mystery AV might alert to the mystery
exploit and give you a mystery malware name with which to investigate
the mystery further.

It is also possible that your mystery AV is making a false positive
declaration of the mystery malware and interfering with your video
download for some mysterious reason.
 
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David H. Lipman
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      10th Aug 2011
From: "jack34" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> I just received an answer from my AV company. It was a false positive.
>
> As far as I know, it was not a DRM protected file.
>
> Codec files aside, is it possible to download a virus/trojan when
> downloading a video file? I'd like to know for future reference.
>
> P.S. Ignore the MarcusT post. I got my "nicks" crossed up. )


What do you mean "download a virus/trojan when downloading a video file?"

Like I already provided, audio and video media files can be malicious such as in the case
of a Wimad trojan.

Are you asking if I download a MP3 can I also be subjected to an EXE ? If that is your
question, no.


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http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


 
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jack34
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      10th Aug 2011
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> From: "jack34" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>
>> I just received an answer from my AV company. It was a false
>> positive.
>>
>> As far as I know, it was not a DRM protected file.
>>
>> Codec files aside, is it possible to download a virus/trojan when
>> downloading a video file? I'd like to know for future reference.
>>
>> P.S. Ignore the MarcusT post. I got my "nicks" crossed up. )

>
> What do you mean "download a virus/trojan when downloading a video
> file?"
>
> Like I already provided, audio and video media files can be
> malicious such as in the case of a Wimad trojan.
>
> Are you asking if I download a MP3 can I also be subjected to an
> EXE ? If that is your question, no.
>


I clicked to download a video using a video downloading program.

AVG immediately came up and said a file in the downloading program
was infected with a trojan. AVG said the infected dll had trojan
horse sheur3.cncq. (AVG had not alerted on this file an hour or so
earlier when I had installed the update for the downloader.)

No video had even started to download. The infection message came as
soon as I had entered the URL and tried to start the downloading
program to get the video.

The "infected" file was placed in AVG's Virus Vault. It was later
sent to AVG for analysis. According to AVG's results, it was not
infected. It was noted as a false alarm.

Within hours, I again downloaded the update of the downloader
program and AVG did not alarm on the same file it had alerted on
earlier.

I'm not about to go back to that site and try to download that video
again. Once bitten.... I doubt if there is a vulnerability built
into the downloader, since AVG gave the "infected" file a clean bill
of health.

I'm not going to give the name of the downloader program because I
don't think it was the program's fault. I don't want to start a
rumor affecting the sales of the program.

The whole thing doesn't quite make sense to me.
 
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David H. Lipman
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      10th Aug 2011
From: "jack34" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> From: "jack34" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>
>>> I just received an answer from my AV company. It was a false
>>> positive.
>>>
>>> As far as I know, it was not a DRM protected file.
>>>
>>> Codec files aside, is it possible to download a virus/trojan when
>>> downloading a video file? I'd like to know for future reference.
>>>
>>> P.S. Ignore the MarcusT post. I got my "nicks" crossed up. )

>>
>> What do you mean "download a virus/trojan when downloading a video
>> file?"
>>
>> Like I already provided, audio and video media files can be
>> malicious such as in the case of a Wimad trojan.
>>
>> Are you asking if I download a MP3 can I also be subjected to an
>> EXE ? If that is your question, no.
>>

> I clicked to download a video using a video downloading program.
>
> AVG immediately came up and said a file in the downloading program
> was infected with a trojan. AVG said the infected dll had trojan
> horse sheur3.cncq. (AVG had not alerted on this file an hour or so
> earlier when I had installed the update for the downloader.)
>
> No video had even started to download. The infection message came as
> soon as I had entered the URL and tried to start the downloading
> program to get the video.
>
> The "infected" file was placed in AVG's Virus Vault. It was later
> sent to AVG for analysis. According to AVG's results, it was not
> infected. It was noted as a false alarm.
>
> Within hours, I again downloaded the update of the downloader
> program and AVG did not alarm on the same file it had alerted on
> earlier.
>
> I'm not about to go back to that site and try to download that video
> again. Once bitten.... I doubt if there is a vulnerability built
> into the downloader, since AVG gave the "infected" file a clean bill
> of health.
>
> I'm not going to give the name of the downloader program because I
> don't think it was the program's fault. I don't want to start a
> rumor affecting the sales of the program.
>
> The whole thing doesn't quite make sense to me.


It was a False Positive (FP) declaration on a DLL associated with a media player. When
you downloaded, or attempted to download, a media file it initiated the un-named media
player and thus the On Demand scanner of AVG generated the FP declaration of a trojan in
that DLL.

As for starting a rumour affecting the sales of the program. It isn't going to happen.
Since it is a False Positive declaration the un-named media player isn't at fault.


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Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


 
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