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      16th Jul 2004
Hi and Thanks in advance.
I am using FrontPage.
I am getting spam from our web site> through the contact us ( hyperlinked with our email address, so the email comes up when clicked.)

I have just tried setting up the Contact Us as a FORM ( and press submit ) it doesn't visually show the email or any hyperlinks to it, that I can see.
Was wondering if anyone knows if the spammers can get my email from this set up.

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      16th Jul 2004
Yes. You can see your email address by viewing the source of the page in your browser.

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"Isagold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:70E9BA09-BD5A-470C-84BB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi and Thanks in advance.
> I am using FrontPage.
> I am getting spam from our web site> through the contact us ( hyperlinked with our email address,

so the email comes up when clicked.)
>
> I have just tried setting up the Contact Us as a FORM ( and press submit ) it doesn't visually

show the email or any hyperlinks to it, that I can see.
> Was wondering if anyone knows if the spammers can get my email from this set up.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Isagold



 
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      16th Jul 2004
To expand a bit on this question, what is the best or most secure way to set up a contact page?

"Isagold" wrote:

> Hi and Thanks in advance.
> I am using FrontPage.
> I am getting spam from our web site> through the contact us ( hyperlinked with our email address, so the email comes up when clicked.)
>
> I have just tried setting up the Contact Us as a FORM ( and press submit ) it doesn't visually show the email or any hyperlinks to it, that I can see.
> Was wondering if anyone knows if the spammers can get my email from this set up.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Isagold

 
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      16th Jul 2004
I have that very same problem. The spammers also pick up ALL names in the .com as well as others that don't even exist. I kinda solved it by forwarding mail to another account that has a spam blocker. But that doesn't solve it for everyone.

"deacon" wrote:

> To expand a bit on this question, what is the best or most secure way to set up a contact page?
>
> "Isagold" wrote:
>
> > Hi and Thanks in advance.
> > I am using FrontPage.
> > I am getting spam from our web site> through the contact us ( hyperlinked with our email address, so the email comes up when clicked.)
> >
> > I have just tried setting up the Contact Us as a FORM ( and press submit ) it doesn't visually show the email or any hyperlinks to it, that I can see.
> > Was wondering if anyone knows if the spammers can get my email from this set up.
> >
> > Thanks
> > --
> > Isagold

 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      16th Jul 2004
The best solution is to use a custom written server-side script to process the form to email, this
way the email address is never displayed in the browser, as it doesn't appear in the source. The
custom-script would be written in whatever scripting language is supported by your web host.

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http://www.ycoln-resources.com
FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp

"deacon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:8D944813-9416-4361-9DAC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> To expand a bit on this question, what is the best or most secure way to set up a contact page?
>
> "Isagold" wrote:
>
> > Hi and Thanks in advance.
> > I am using FrontPage.
> > I am getting spam from our web site> through the contact us ( hyperlinked with our email

address, so the email comes up when clicked.)
> >
> > I have just tried setting up the Contact Us as a FORM ( and press submit ) it doesn't visually

show the email or any hyperlinks to it, that I can see.
> > Was wondering if anyone knows if the spammers can get my email from this set up.
> >
> > Thanks
> > --
> > Isagold



 
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Andrew Murray
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      16th Jul 2004
Yes, spam bots look for any string of text that might resemble an email address,
even in <input type=hidden> tags.

The only way to really minimise this is to put the email address inside the code
(e.g. asp code or perl or whatever your host supports - find a script where you
hard-code the email into the script, not using hidden fields. I'm using this
script on one site currently (free from this site:
http://nuts4asp.com/scrips/pfeed/ you have to cut and paste the code from the
site into say Notepad, then paste from Notepad into the code view in frontpage.
Follow the instructions, upload the form, the asp page.

If you use perl/cgi, this site is a good one, it has a form like the one above
where the email address is not visible in the html code by viewing source :
http://www.ezscripting.co.uk


Also there is a handy way to encode your email address, but this method depends
on the user having javascript activated.
http://automaticlabs.com/products/enkoderform/

These are very handy and practical ways to reduce spam - try them out to see if
they do actually work.


"Isagold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:70E9BA09-BD5A-470C-84BB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi and Thanks in advance.
> I am using FrontPage.
> I am getting spam from our web site> through the contact us ( hyperlinked with

our email address, so the email comes up when clicked.)
>
> I have just tried setting up the Contact Us as a FORM ( and press submit ) it

doesn't visually show the email or any hyperlinks to it, that I can see.
> Was wondering if anyone knows if the spammers can get my email from this set

up.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Isagold



 
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Andrew Murray
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      16th Jul 2004
see my other post in this thread with more detailed possible solutions that might
suit you.


"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> The best solution is to use a custom written server-side script to process the

form to email, this
> way the email address is never displayed in the browser, as it doesn't appear

in the source. The
> custom-script would be written in whatever scripting language is supported by

your web host.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> ==============================================
> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
>
> "deacon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:8D944813-9416-4361-9DAC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > To expand a bit on this question, what is the best or most secure way to set

up a contact page?
> >
> > "Isagold" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi and Thanks in advance.
> > > I am using FrontPage.
> > > I am getting spam from our web site> through the contact us ( hyperlinked

with our email
> address, so the email comes up when clicked.)
> > >
> > > I have just tried setting up the Contact Us as a FORM ( and press submit )

it doesn't visually
> show the email or any hyperlinks to it, that I can see.
> > > Was wondering if anyone knows if the spammers can get my email from this

set up.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > --
> > > Isagold

>
>



 
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      16th Jul 2004
Hi Isagold,

Take a look at SpamStopper at http://www.websunlimited.com/order/p...r_help_dir.htm

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"Isagold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:70E9BA09-BD5A-470C-84BB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi and Thanks in advance.
> I am using FrontPage.
> I am getting spam from our web site> through the contact us ( hyperlinked with our email address, so the email comes up when

clicked.)
>
> I have just tried setting up the Contact Us as a FORM ( and press submit ) it doesn't visually show the email or any hyperlinks to

it, that I can see.
> Was wondering if anyone knows if the spammers can get my email from this set up.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Isagold



 
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Steve H
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      16th Jul 2004
If the email is short and easy to type, you can always
show your email address as a GIF. The user will start his
email application by hand and type in the address by hand.
NOt the most reader-friendly way, though, if you really
want a response.

>-----Original Message-----
>Yes. You can see your email address by viewing the source

of the page in your browser.
>
>--
>==============================================
>Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
>http://www.ycoln-resources.com
>FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
>==============================================
>To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage

support see:
>http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
>
>"Isagold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

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>news:70E9BA09-BD5A-470C-84BB-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi and Thanks in advance.
>> I am using FrontPage.
>> I am getting spam from our web site> through the

contact us ( hyperlinked with our email address,
>so the email comes up when clicked.)
>>
>> I have just tried setting up the Contact Us as a FORM (

and press submit ) it doesn't visually
>show the email or any hyperlinks to it, that I can see.
>> Was wondering if anyone knows if the spammers can get

my email from this set up.
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Isagold

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Ripper
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      17th Jul 2004
I can tell you this much. I had a severe spam problem from one site with an
e-mail address coded as a standard link. I changed the address and added a
form for contact and have yet to get ANY spam in that account. I'm not
saying it's not possible for spammers to still grab my e-mail address, but
it hasn't happened since I added the form (it may help that I made the form
open on a new page and that page is in a folder that is hidden from
spiders). I also use a JavaScript for standard e-mail links, but as stated
above, it requires the visitor to activate JavaScript. I used to use the
ASCII method, but that was figured out pretty quick by the spammers. Most of
them don't sit around looking at source code, they have software that does
it for them so figuring out how to keep the software off guard is most
important. So far, JavaScript seems to work for me (I must admit I am the
last person to expect me to say that, I'm not a fan of JavaScript for many
reasons)

"Isagold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi and Thanks in advance.
> I am using FrontPage.
> I am getting spam from our web site> through the contact us ( hyperlinked

with our email address, so the email comes up when clicked.)
>
> I have just tried setting up the Contact Us as a FORM ( and press submit )

it doesn't visually show the email or any hyperlinks to it, that I can see.
> Was wondering if anyone knows if the spammers can get my email from this

set up.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Isagold



 
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