I am trying to downgrade my Vista Ultimate OS to XP Pro using an OEM disk I
bought on the internet. I have had problems with Vista since day one that
have never been resolved and I cannot wait for 7 anymore (I need this
computer up now). Anyway, I have a dell Inspiron 530 (Service tag 3yp4yf1 -
you can see the info about the system configuration at the support.dell.com
site if you enter the service tag number.

After booting with the XP disk, it loads some drivers, says it is starting
windows and then I get a blue screen. The screen says:
---------------------------------------------------------
A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down...

...

Check for viruses on you computer. Remove any newly installed hard drives or
hard drive controllers. Check your hard drive to make sure it is properly
configured and terminated. Run Chkdsk /f to check for hard drive corruption
and then restart

Tech Info:

Stop:0x0000007B (0xf78d2524, 0xc0000034,0x0...,0x0...)
----------------------------------------------
I had hoped to completely reformat and repartition the drive (actually it is
a Raid (Raid 1 - mirror)), but it does not have a virus for what it is worth
(at least according to Zone Alarm). Chkdsk found no problems. I cannot seem
to get past this error. Can anyone help me?

Thanks in advance...

a.c.hoskins wrote:
> I am trying to downgrade my Vista Ultimate OS to XP Pro using an
> OEM disk I bought on the internet. I have had problems with Vista
> since day one that have never been resolved and I cannot wait for 7
> anymore (I need this computer up now). Anyway, I have a dell
> Inspiron 530 (Service tag 3yp4yf1 - you can see the info about the
> system configuration at the support.dell.com site if you enter the
> service tag number.
>
> After booting with the XP disk, it loads some drivers, says it is
> starting windows and then I get a blue screen. The screen says:
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down...
>
> ..
>
> Check for viruses on you computer. Remove any newly installed hard
> drives or hard drive controllers. Check your hard drive to make
> sure it is properly configured and terminated. Run Chkdsk /f to
> check for hard drive corruption and then restart
>
> Tech Info:
>
> Stop:0x0000007B (0xf78d2524, 0xc0000034,0x0...,0x0...)
> ----------------------------------------------
> I had hoped to completely reformat and repartition the drive
> (actually it is a Raid (Raid 1 - mirror)), but it does not have a
> virus for what it is worth (at least according to Zone Alarm).
> Chkdsk found no problems. I cannot seem to get past this error.
> Can anyone help me?
>
> Thanks in advance...

You need a floppy diskette, floppy diskette drive and the controller driver
for your system on the floppy then install Windows XP, pressing F6 at the
appropriate time to load the driver Windows XP needs to install on that
system as is.

Or go into your system BIOS and change the SATA operation to Legacy (or the
lowest level you can select) and install Windows XP just like you did
before.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Thanks for the reply Shenan.

Unfortunately, this computer does not have a floppy drive, it was not even
an option when I ordered it from Dell. I have received advice that I can get
around this problem using an application called nLite to build a bootable CD
with the Intel Raid driver on it. Have you heard of this application and do
you have any opinion on whether it would be a good way to go? If I do change
the SATA operation to the lowest level select, will it be possible to
recreate the Raid1 after I install XP? This computer was built by Dell
orginally so I have never done this before.

Thanks again for you response.


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> a.c.hoskins wrote:
> > I am trying to downgrade my Vista Ultimate OS to XP Pro using an
> > OEM disk I bought on the internet. I have had problems with Vista
> > since day one that have never been resolved and I cannot wait for 7
> > anymore (I need this computer up now). Anyway, I have a dell
> > Inspiron 530 (Service tag 3yp4yf1 - you can see the info about the
> > system configuration at the support.dell.com site if you enter the
> > service tag number.
> >
> > After booting with the XP disk, it loads some drivers, says it is
> > starting windows and then I get a blue screen. The screen says:
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down...
> >
> > ..
> >
> > Check for viruses on you computer. Remove any newly installed hard
> > drives or hard drive controllers. Check your hard drive to make
> > sure it is properly configured and terminated. Run Chkdsk /f to
> > check for hard drive corruption and then restart
> >
> > Tech Info:
> >
> > Stop:0x0000007B (0xf78d2524, 0xc0000034,0x0...,0x0...)
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > I had hoped to completely reformat and repartition the drive
> > (actually it is a Raid (Raid 1 - mirror)), but it does not have a
> > virus for what it is worth (at least according to Zone Alarm).
> > Chkdsk found no problems. I cannot seem to get past this error.
> > Can anyone help me?
> >
> > Thanks in advance...
>
> You need a floppy diskette, floppy diskette drive and the controller driver
> for your system on the floppy then install Windows XP, pressing F6 at the
> appropriate time to load the driver Windows XP needs to install on that
> system as is.
>
> Or go into your system BIOS and change the SATA operation to Legacy (or the
> lowest level you can select) and install Windows XP just like you did
> before.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

a.c.hoskins wrote:
> I am trying to downgrade my Vista Ultimate OS to XP Pro using an
> OEM disk I bought on the internet. I have had problems with Vista
> since day one that have never been resolved and I cannot wait for 7
> anymore (I need this computer up now). Anyway, I have a dell
> Inspiron 530 (Service tag 3yp4yf1 - you can see the info about the
> system configuration at the support.dell.com site if you enter the
> service tag number.
>
> After booting with the XP disk, it loads some drivers, says it is
> starting windows and then I get a blue screen. The screen says:
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down...
>
> ..
>
> Check for viruses on you computer. Remove any newly installed hard
> drives or hard drive controllers. Check your hard drive to make
> sure it is properly configured and terminated. Run Chkdsk /f to
> check for hard drive corruption and then restart
>
> Tech Info:
>
> Stop:0x0000007B (0xf78d2524, 0xc0000034,0x0...,0x0...)
> ----------------------------------------------
> I had hoped to completely reformat and repartition the drive
> (actually it is a Raid (Raid 1 - mirror)), but it does not have a
> virus for what it is worth (at least according to Zone Alarm).
> Chkdsk found no problems. I cannot seem to get past this error.
> Can anyone help me?
>
> Thanks in advance.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> You need a floppy diskette, floppy diskette drive and the
> controller driver for your system on the floppy then install
> Windows XP, pressing F6 at the appropriate time to load the driver
> Windows XP needs to install on that system as is.
>
> Or go into your system BIOS and change the SATA operation to Legacy
> (or the lowest level you can select) and install Windows XP just
> like you did before.

a.c.hoskins wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Shenan.
>
> Unfortunately, this computer does not have a floppy drive, it was
> not even an option when I ordered it from Dell. I have received
> advice that I can get around this problem using an application
> called nLite to build a bootable CD with the Intel Raid driver on
> it. Have you heard of this application and do you have any opinion
> on whether it would be a good way to go? If I do change the SATA
> operation to the lowest level select, will it be possible to
> recreate the Raid1 after I install XP? This computer was built by
> Dell orginally so I have never done this before.
>
> Thanks again for you response.

Just checking to see if you ignored the second option or just did not notice
it?

While you can integrate the driver into your CD - most aren't very
successful in this endeavor. Integrating service packs and patches - sure.
Integrating drivers - not as much.

Would seem to me that the second option I gave would work just fine,
although you would have to break the RAID I suppose (now that you have
mentioned the RAID level 1 you have) - although - to be quite honest - the
use of a RAID 1 just never did anything for me.

The only time I can see a RAID 1 working out is if a hard drive has instant
failure. Not damage leading up to failure, none of that - instant.
Otherwise - the damage that is done to the file system on the first drive is
just instantly copied (file - not the actual physical damage that may cause
it) to the other drive. So - something happens that corrupts some of your
system files and you have a hardware RAID 1 - it copies the corrupted files
to your other drive for you. You get a virus, copied to the other drive for
you. You erase all your important files and the likes - it is copied to the
other drive for you. Waste of a drive in my opinion. Of course - opinions
vary. Maybe someone out there who works on computer issues have seen more
drives completely die without warning than anything else that would happen
to a system and thus their opinion would be different from mine. ;-)

If it was me - I would break the RAID, use the drives as two drives and have
a C and a D - you have doubled your space and you will end up with a working
Windows XP machine that performs as well as it would (if not slightly
better) if you had the RAID 1 with Windows XP. Get an external hard disk
drive (I have seen 1TB external USB drives for less than $100 U.S.) and
schedule a periodic backup (or even just an xcopy/copy) to the drive of the
stuff that is important to you.

Then again - you could believe that the RAID 1 is of some benefit (have you
used it yet?) to you - in which case - yes - you can integrate the drivers
directly into the Windows installation media to get what you want instead of
getting a floppy diskette drive - that is a third option. nLite would
probably do it fine. Another option might be more manual:
http://unattended.msfn.org/unattende...d2e6f79256fc8/

In any case - yep - slipstreaming is an option (especially if you want to
keep the RAID 1 setup you have or if you want to try a RAID 0 - probably the
only two the built-in controller supports and all you are going to do with
just two drives anyway) amongst the possibilities (four in total) that I
see.

My Windows Vista experience has been fantastic since SP2 - now getting to
that level - yeah - I can say that was not always so nice (even installing
SP2 in one case for a customer was a nightmare.) I should also point out
that I am already using Windows 7 RTM on one of my main systems and it has
gone without issue, although one other still has Windows Vista 32-bit w/SP2
and I have a VM that runs Windows XP - neither of those gives me trouble and
both are used as much as the Windows 7 is - one being a home system, the
other more for work/travel..

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Thank you Shenan, you have answered all my questions and then some!

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> a.c.hoskins wrote:
> > I am trying to downgrade my Vista Ultimate OS to XP Pro using an
> > OEM disk I bought on the internet. I have had problems with Vista
> > since day one that have never been resolved and I cannot wait for 7
> > anymore (I need this computer up now). Anyway, I have a dell
> > Inspiron 530 (Service tag 3yp4yf1 - you can see the info about the
> > system configuration at the support.dell.com site if you enter the
> > service tag number.
> >
> > After booting with the XP disk, it loads some drivers, says it is
> > starting windows and then I get a blue screen. The screen says:
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down...
> >
> > ..
> >
> > Check for viruses on you computer. Remove any newly installed hard
> > drives or hard drive controllers. Check your hard drive to make
> > sure it is properly configured and terminated. Run Chkdsk /f to
> > check for hard drive corruption and then restart
> >
> > Tech Info:
> >
> > Stop:0x0000007B (0xf78d2524, 0xc0000034,0x0...,0x0...)
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > I had hoped to completely reformat and repartition the drive
> > (actually it is a Raid (Raid 1 - mirror)), but it does not have a
> > virus for what it is worth (at least according to Zone Alarm).
> > Chkdsk found no problems. I cannot seem to get past this error.
> > Can anyone help me?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > You need a floppy diskette, floppy diskette drive and the
> > controller driver for your system on the floppy then install
> > Windows XP, pressing F6 at the appropriate time to load the driver
> > Windows XP needs to install on that system as is.
> >
> > Or go into your system BIOS and change the SATA operation to Legacy
> > (or the lowest level you can select) and install Windows XP just
> > like you did before.
>
> a.c.hoskins wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply Shenan.
> >
> > Unfortunately, this computer does not have a floppy drive, it was
> > not even an option when I ordered it from Dell. I have received
> > advice that I can get around this problem using an application
> > called nLite to build a bootable CD with the Intel Raid driver on
> > it. Have you heard of this application and do you have any opinion
> > on whether it would be a good way to go? If I do change the SATA
> > operation to the lowest level select, will it be possible to
> > recreate the Raid1 after I install XP? This computer was built by
> > Dell orginally so I have never done this before.
> >
> > Thanks again for you response.
>
> Just checking to see if you ignored the second option or just did not notice
> it?
>
> While you can integrate the driver into your CD - most aren't very
> successful in this endeavor. Integrating service packs and patches - sure.
> Integrating drivers - not as much.
>
> Would seem to me that the second option I gave would work just fine,
> although you would have to break the RAID I suppose (now that you have
> mentioned the RAID level 1 you have) - although - to be quite honest - the
> use of a RAID 1 just never did anything for me.
>
> The only time I can see a RAID 1 working out is if a hard drive has instant
> failure. Not damage leading up to failure, none of that - instant.
> Otherwise - the damage that is done to the file system on the first drive is
> just instantly copied (file - not the actual physical damage that may cause
> it) to the other drive. So - something happens that corrupts some of your
> system files and you have a hardware RAID 1 - it copies the corrupted files
> to your other drive for you. You get a virus, copied to the other drive for
> you. You erase all your important files and the likes - it is copied to the
> other drive for you. Waste of a drive in my opinion. Of course - opinions
> vary. Maybe someone out there who works on computer issues have seen more
> drives completely die without warning than anything else that would happen
> to a system and thus their opinion would be different from mine. ;-)
>
> If it was me - I would break the RAID, use the drives as two drives and have
> a C and a D - you have doubled your space and you will end up with a working
> Windows XP machine that performs as well as it would (if not slightly
> better) if you had the RAID 1 with Windows XP. Get an external hard disk
> drive (I have seen 1TB external USB drives for less than $100 U.S.) and
> schedule a periodic backup (or even just an xcopy/copy) to the drive of the
> stuff that is important to you.
>
> Then again - you could believe that the RAID 1 is of some benefit (have you
> used it yet?) to you - in which case - yes - you can integrate the drivers
> directly into the Windows installation media to get what you want instead of
> getting a floppy diskette drive - that is a third option. nLite would
> probably do it fine. Another option might be more manual:
> http://unattended.msfn.org/unattende...d2e6f79256fc8/
>
> In any case - yep - slipstreaming is an option (especially if you want to
> keep the RAID 1 setup you have or if you want to try a RAID 0 - probably the
> only two the built-in controller supports and all you are going to do with
> just two drives anyway) amongst the possibilities (four in total) that I
> see.
>
> My Windows Vista experience has been fantastic since SP2 - now getting to
> that level - yeah - I can say that was not always so nice (even installing
> SP2 in one case for a customer was a nightmare.) I should also point out
> that I am already using Windows 7 RTM on one of my main systems and it has
> gone without issue, although one other still has Windows Vista 32-bit w/SP2
> and I have a VM that runs Windows XP - neither of those gives me trouble and
> both are used as much as the Windows 7 is - one being a home system, the
> other more for work/travel..
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

As soon as I realized that I might need a floppy drive for either my
Dimension desktop or my Inspiron laptop, I bought a USB floppy drive at Best
Buy (for about $40). If, heaven forbid, you ever need to rebuild your
system with a backup created by ntbackup, you will need a floppy in addition
to the XP installation CD.
Jim
"a.c.hoskins" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:686CB417-7999-4789-93F7-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for the reply Shenan.
>
> Unfortunately, this computer does not have a floppy drive, it was not even
> an option when I ordered it from Dell. I have received advice that I can
> get
> around this problem using an application called nLite to build a bootable
> CD
> with the Intel Raid driver on it. Have you heard of this application and
> do
> you have any opinion on whether it would be a good way to go? If I do
> change
> the SATA operation to the lowest level select, will it be possible to
> recreate the Raid1 after I install XP? This computer was built by Dell
> orginally so I have never done this before.
>
> Thanks again for you response.
>
>
> "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
>
>> a.c.hoskins wrote:
>> > I am trying to downgrade my Vista Ultimate OS to XP Pro using an
>> > OEM disk I bought on the internet. I have had problems with Vista
>> > since day one that have never been resolved and I cannot wait for 7
>> > anymore (I need this computer up now). Anyway, I have a dell
>> > Inspiron 530 (Service tag 3yp4yf1 - you can see the info about the
>> > system configuration at the support.dell.com site if you enter the
>> > service tag number.
>> >
>> > After booting with the XP disk, it loads some drivers, says it is
>> > starting windows and then I get a blue screen. The screen says:
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------
>> > A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down...
>> >
>> > ..
>> >
>> > Check for viruses on you computer. Remove any newly installed hard
>> > drives or hard drive controllers. Check your hard drive to make
>> > sure it is properly configured and terminated. Run Chkdsk /f to
>> > check for hard drive corruption and then restart
>> >
>> > Tech Info:
>> >
>> > Stop:0x0000007B (0xf78d2524, 0xc0000034,0x0...,0x0...)
>> > ----------------------------------------------
>> > I had hoped to completely reformat and repartition the drive
>> > (actually it is a Raid (Raid 1 - mirror)), but it does not have a
>> > virus for what it is worth (at least according to Zone Alarm).
>> > Chkdsk found no problems. I cannot seem to get past this error.
>> > Can anyone help me?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance...
>>
>> You need a floppy diskette, floppy diskette drive and the controller
>> driver
>> for your system on the floppy then install Windows XP, pressing F6 at the
>> appropriate time to load the driver Windows XP needs to install on that
>> system as is.
>>
>> Or go into your system BIOS and change the SATA operation to Legacy (or
>> the
>> lowest level you can select) and install Windows XP just like you did
>> before.
>>
>> --
>> Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>> --
>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>

>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> While you can integrate the driver into your CD - most aren't very
>> successful in this endeavor. Integrating service packs and patches -
>> sure.
>> Integrating drivers - not as much.

It's not THAT problem but my advise is NOT to use tools like nLite or such,
do it yourself and it will work.

>> If it was me - I would break the RAID, use the drives as two drives and
>> have
>> a C and a D - you have doubled your space and you will end up with a
>> working
>> Windows XP machine that performs as well as it would (if not slightly
>> better) if you had the RAID 1 with Windows XP. Get an external hard disk
>> drive (I have seen 1TB external USB drives for less than $100 U.S.) and
>> schedule a periodic backup (or even just an xcopy/copy) to the drive of
>> the
>> stuff that is important to you.

I totally agree with you. RAID 1 is in most cases completely useless. RAID 0
(less security but more performance) makes much more sense (eg. if you often
author, edit or create videos).

>> Then again - you could believe that the RAID 1 is of some benefit (have
>> you
>> used it yet?) to you - in which case - yes - you can integrate the
>> drivers
>> directly into the Windows installation media to get what you want instead
>> of
>> getting a floppy diskette drive - that is a third option. nLite would
>> probably do it fine. Another option might be more manual:
>> http://unattended.msfn.org/unattende...d2e6f79256fc8/

Please, not that bad way with disadvantages! You can integrate the drivers
directly into the CD like Microsoft did. The advantage of this is that you
still can use F6 to install other or newer drivers.
At least the website you choosed is the best choice

Try
http://www.msfn.org/board/howto-inte...f-t119748.html
(but forget about the attachments i made there, old and crappy nVIDIA
nForce4 RAID driver). The guide is working. I use it for my setup cds in
local network.

If you can't do it yourself i could create a zip file with everything you
need (drivers, modification of two files but exept Windows XP for you.


Regards,

Ben