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Can I reduce XPE's boot time to 5s?

 
 
sarah
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      23rd Sep 2003


 
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Slobodan Brcin
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5s?
Can you reduce your image to less than 20 files? This can be done, but you
probably wont be satisfied with this.

Everything is possible
But load time is mostly proportional to platform speed, and OS size.


Really, what do you need from XPE, what level of functionality.


Best regards,
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sarah
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      23rd Sep 2003
I want my notebook to be used as a DVD player.
When I start XPE, it can boot in 5s and play DVD.
"Slobodan Brcin" <(E-Mail Removed)> 写入邮件
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> 5s?
> Can you reduce your image to less than 20 files? This can be done, but you
> probably wont be satisfied with this.
>
> Everything is possible
> But load time is mostly proportional to platform speed, and OS size.
>
>
> Really, what do you need from XPE, what level of functionality.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Slobodan
>
>



 
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Sean Liming \(eMVP\)
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      23rd Sep 2003
Sarah,

As Slobodan has pointed out, you will find this a bit difficult. An
alternative is Hibernation which provides a fast boot time, but you will
need space to store the hibernation file.

Regards,

Sean Liming
www.a7eng.com
Author: Windows NT Embedded Step-By-Step and XP Embedded Advanced.





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Heidi Linda
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      23rd Sep 2003
OK, I'll admit I once had a system 'dual' booting to SuSE
Linux, Win2k, Win98 and OS/2 Warp, and that when I first
got my iBook I had Win98, NT4Server and Win2kServer on
VPC, alongside SuSE, OS9 and OSX natively... but I really
don't see the point of this.
I never turn my iBook off. When I've finished with him, I
shut the lid. When I need to use him again I open him up
and off we go, pretty much immediately. Stick in a DVD and
the player pops up and starts automatically. Why mess
around with special partitions when putting the machine to
sleep rather than off works so much better? Is sleep on
PCs that bad?

>-----Original Message-----
>I also see the value in this and would like to know what
>you find. For those of you who are wondering why this
>would be valueable, see Acer's Aspire 2000 notebook.
>It's an XP/Linux dual boot machine. When you boot linux,
>it loads in 10 seconds and allows entertainment functions
>such as DVD playback.
>
>I think a pure Microsoft solution would be much better
>than the MS/Linux mix.
>
>Here's the link:
>
>http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/...Nacerreadies_1.
>html
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>This is probably a silly question, but why not just use

>a
>>DVD player? Something like http://www.dealtime.com/xPO-
>>Panasonic_DVD_LA95 maybe?
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I want my notebook to be used as a DVD player.
>>>When I start XPE, it can boot in 5s and play DVD.
>>>"Slobodan Brcin" <(E-Mail Removed)> 写入邮件
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> 5s?
>>>> Can you reduce your image to less than 20 files? This

>>can be done, but you
>>>> probably wont be satisfied with this.
>>>>
>>>> Everything is possible
>>>> But load time is mostly proportional to platform

>speed,
>>and OS size.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Really, what do you need from XPE, what level of

>>functionality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Slobodan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>

>>.
>>

>.
>

 
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sarah
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      24th Sep 2003
Thank you for your feedback.
But this it my assignment. I must try to do that or find reason why it
can't.
"Heidi Linda" <(E-Mail Removed)> ????
news:14d201c381da$8c4e2110$(E-Mail Removed)...
OK, I'll admit I once had a system 'dual' booting to SuSE
Linux, Win2k, Win98 and OS/2 Warp, and that when I first
got my iBook I had Win98, NT4Server and Win2kServer on
VPC, alongside SuSE, OS9 and OSX natively... but I really
don't see the point of this.
I never turn my iBook off. When I've finished with him, I
shut the lid. When I need to use him again I open him up
and off we go, pretty much immediately. Stick in a DVD and
the player pops up and starts automatically. Why mess
around with special partitions when putting the machine to
sleep rather than off works so much better? Is sleep on
PCs that bad?

>-----Original Message-----
>I also see the value in this and would like to know what
>you find. For those of you who are wondering why this
>would be valueable, see Acer's Aspire 2000 notebook.
>It's an XP/Linux dual boot machine. When you boot linux,
>it loads in 10 seconds and allows entertainment functions
>such as DVD playback.
>
>I think a pure Microsoft solution would be much better
>than the MS/Linux mix.
>
>Here's the link:
>
>http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/...Nacerreadies_1.
>html
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>This is probably a silly question, but why not just use

>a
>>DVD player? Something like http://www.dealtime.com/xPO-
>>Panasonic_DVD_LA95 maybe?
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I want my notebook to be used as a DVD player.
>>>When I start XPE, it can boot in 5s and play DVD.
>>>"Slobodan Brcin" <(E-Mail Removed)> 写入邮件
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> 5s?
>>>> Can you reduce your image to less than 20 files? This

>>can be done, but you
>>>> probably wont be satisfied with this.
>>>>
>>>> Everything is possible
>>>> But load time is mostly proportional to platform

>speed,
>>and OS size.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Really, what do you need from XPE, what level of

>>functionality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Slobodan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>

>>.
>>

>.
>



 
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Jonathan Swift
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      24th Sep 2003
Well, hibernation is one way. My Desktop PC has suspend-to-ram (S3, I
think) capability - and that's what I use. So it only actually gets
rebooted occasionally (for a Patch or update). Power-on from pressing the
button is around 5-7 seconds (well, it is only a PIII 866Mhz) !

Even my NetGem iPlayer (DTT box) does the same. Completely power-off and
it'll take something like 30-45 seconds to boot (it runs Linux inside using
disk-on-a-chip), but from standby to on is around 1 second.

Jonathan


"Sean Liming (eMVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Sarah,
>
> As Slobodan has pointed out, you will find this a bit difficult. An
> alternative is Hibernation which provides a fast boot time, but you will
> need space to store the hibernation file.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sean Liming
> www.a7eng.com
> Author: Windows NT Embedded Step-By-Step and XP Embedded Advanced.
>
>
>
>
>
> "sarah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >

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Heidi
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      24th Sep 2003
Oh *management*. Know that feeling. I'm still waiting for my tasks list
to include nailing jelly to the walls.

In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, sarah
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Thank you for your feedback.
> But this it my assignment. I must try to do that or find reason why it
> can't.
> "Heidi Linda" <(E-Mail Removed)> ????
> news:14d201c381da$8c4e2110$(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK, I'll admit I once had a system 'dual' booting to SuSE
> Linux, Win2k, Win98 and OS/2 Warp, and that when I first
> got my iBook I had Win98, NT4Server and Win2kServer on
> VPC, alongside SuSE, OS9 and OSX natively... but I really
> don't see the point of this.
> I never turn my iBook off. When I've finished with him, I
> shut the lid. When I need to use him again I open him up
> and off we go, pretty much immediately. Stick in a DVD and
> the player pops up and starts automatically. Why mess
> around with special partitions when putting the machine to
> sleep rather than off works so much better? Is sleep on
> PCs that bad?
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I also see the value in this and would like to know what
> >you find. For those of you who are wondering why this
> >would be valueable, see Acer's Aspire 2000 notebook.
> >It's an XP/Linux dual boot machine. When you boot linux,
> >it loads in 10 seconds and allows entertainment functions
> >such as DVD playback.
> >
> >I think a pure Microsoft solution would be much better
> >than the MS/Linux mix.
> >
> >Here's the link:
> >
> >http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/...Nacerreadies_1.
> >html
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>This is probably a silly question, but why not just use

> >a
> >>DVD player? Something like http://www.dealtime.com/xPO-
> >>Panasonic_DVD_LA95 maybe?
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>I want my notebook to be used as a DVD player.
> >>>When I start XPE, it can boot in 5s and play DVD.
> >>>"Slobodan Brcin" <(E-Mail Removed)> 写入邮件
> >>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>>> 5s?
> >>>> Can you reduce your image to less than 20 files? This
> >>can be done, but you
> >>>> probably wont be satisfied with this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything is possible
> >>>> But load time is mostly proportional to platform

> >speed,
> >>and OS size.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Really, what do you need from XPE, what level of
> >>functionality.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Slobodan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>.
> >>>
> >>.
> >>

> >.
> >

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>

 
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      24th Sep 2003

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Can you get your PCs POST to under 5s in the 1st place? Most of the boards
I've used recently take between 6 and 10 seconds to get to the point where
they start reading the OS.

If this sort of boot speed is what you need then XPe on a PC platform is
probably not what you want. Take a look at CE.NET - and a hardware platform
that is tailored to take advantage of it.

Simon


 
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Slobodan Brcin
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      24th Sep 2003
> Can you get your PCs POST to under 5s in the 1st place? Most of the boards
> I've used recently take between 6 and 10 seconds to get to the point where
> they start reading the OS.


I once had some QDI PC motherboard. It had feature that when enabled would
skip all POST tests, and PNP detections.
So when you have added all hardware to PC, and first time successfully boot,
then you can go to BIOS and enable this option. PC will stop any further
attempt to find or remove hardware from configuration.
Dangerous, but it could start booting within 1 second.

So there is always an option of finding such hardware or updating BIOS
firmware.

> If this sort of boot speed is what you need then XPe on a PC platform is
> probably not what you want. Take a look at CE.NET - and a hardware

platform
> that is tailored to take advantage of it.


Probably right.

Regards,
Slobodan


 
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