There was a website I logged on to that caused a dialout of my modem. It wasn't an annomaly because I went back to the same website to see if it would happen again, and it did. Even though I could hear the dialout, I did not know how to stop it, other than shutting down my computer. I have heard that sometimes websites will force dialouts to 900 numbers, etc., and that the call can connect and go on for hours running up some horrible bills.

I also think I may have been lucky in that I heard the dialout. It seems to me that if these vandals can force a dialout, they may be smart enough to make the dialout silent.

Is there anything I can do to prevent this?

Hi

Try these programs to check for any spyware that may be on your system:

Ad-Aware - www.lavasoftusa.com
Spybot - http://www.safer-networking.org/
CWShredder - http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html

Also see the following link:

http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm

--

Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups


"Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:40c76851$1@wobble...
There was a website I logged on to that caused a dialout of my modem.
It wasn't an annomaly because I went back to the same website to see if it
would happen again, and it did. Even though I could hear the dialout, I did
not know how to stop it, other than shutting down my computer. I have heard
that sometimes websites will force dialouts to 900 numbers, etc., and that
the call can connect and go on for hours running up some horrible bills.

I also think I may have been lucky in that I heard the dialout. It
seems to me that if these vandals can force a dialout, they may be smart
enough to make the dialout silent.

Is there anything I can do to prevent this?

In IE's Tools, Options, I think the Advanced tab, there is a
setting to warn you before switching internet calls or
something like that. While you do the other things I'd
check that out - but also do the adware etc. suggestions.
Spybot can look for a lot of dialer robots too, in case it
got into your hd.



"Will Denny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
>
> Try these programs to check for any spyware that may be on
your system:
>
> Ad-Aware - www.lavasoftusa.com
> Spybot - http://www.safer-networking.org/
> CWShredder -
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
>
> Also see the following link:
>
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>
> --
>
> Will Denny
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please reply to the News Groups
>
>
> "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:40c76851$1@wobble...
> There was a website I logged on to that caused a
dialout of my modem.
> It wasn't an annomaly because I went back to the same
website to see if it
> would happen again, and it did. Even though I could hear
the dialout, I did
> not know how to stop it, other than shutting down my
computer. I have heard
> that sometimes websites will force dialouts to 900
numbers, etc., and that
> the call can connect and go on for hours running up some
horrible bills.
>
> I also think I may have been lucky in that I heard the
dialout. It
> seems to me that if these vandals can force a dialout,
they may be smart
> enough to make the dialout silent.
>
> Is there anything I can do to prevent this?
>

I couldn't find the setting you are talking about. Do you have any more
information?

I have Spybot, and it says I'm clean. I don't think it's spyware. I
think it's a script that executes when you call up it's resident web page.

"Pop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In IE's Tools, Options, I think the Advanced tab, there is a
> setting to warn you before switching internet calls or
> something like that. While you do the other things I'd
> check that out - but also do the adware etc. suggestions.
> Spybot can look for a lot of dialer robots too, in case it
> got into your hd.
>
>
>
> "Will Denny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi
> >
> > Try these programs to check for any spyware that may be on
> your system:
> >
> > Ad-Aware - www.lavasoftusa.com
> > Spybot - http://www.safer-networking.org/
> > CWShredder -
> http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
> >
> > Also see the following link:
> >
> > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> >
> > --
> >
> > Will Denny
> > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > Please reply to the News Groups
> >
> >
> > "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:40c76851$1@wobble...
> > There was a website I logged on to that caused a
> dialout of my modem.
> > It wasn't an annomaly because I went back to the same
> website to see if it
> > would happen again, and it did. Even though I could hear
> the dialout, I did
> > not know how to stop it, other than shutting down my
> computer. I have heard
> > that sometimes websites will force dialouts to 900
> numbers, etc., and that
> > the call can connect and go on for hours running up some
> horrible bills.
> >
> > I also think I may have been lucky in that I heard the
> dialout. It
> > seems to me that if these vandals can force a dialout,
> they may be smart
> > enough to make the dialout silent.
> >
> > Is there anything I can do to prevent this?
> >
>
>

Look in Internet Explorer, in the tools menu, internet options the
connections tab, and be sure it says NEVER dial a connection.
Carol

"Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:40c8767b$1@wobble...
> I couldn't find the setting you are talking about. Do you have any
more
> information?
>
> I have Spybot, and it says I'm clean. I don't think it's spyware. I
> think it's a script that executes when you call up it's resident web page.
>
> "Pop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > In IE's Tools, Options, I think the Advanced tab, there is a
> > setting to warn you before switching internet calls or
> > something like that. While you do the other things I'd
> > check that out - but also do the adware etc. suggestions.
> > Spybot can look for a lot of dialer robots too, in case it
> > got into your hd.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Will Denny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Try these programs to check for any spyware that may be on
> > your system:
> > >
> > > Ad-Aware - www.lavasoftusa.com
> > > Spybot - http://www.safer-networking.org/
> > > CWShredder -
> > http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
> > >
> > > Also see the following link:
> > >
> > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Will Denny
> > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > > Please reply to the News Groups
> > >
> > >
> > > "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:40c76851$1@wobble...
> > > There was a website I logged on to that caused a
> > dialout of my modem.
> > > It wasn't an annomaly because I went back to the same
> > website to see if it
> > > would happen again, and it did. Even though I could hear
> > the dialout, I did
> > > not know how to stop it, other than shutting down my
> > computer. I have heard
> > > that sometimes websites will force dialouts to 900
> > numbers, etc., and that
> > > the call can connect and go on for hours running up some
> > horrible bills.
> > >
> > > I also think I may have been lucky in that I heard the
> > dialout. It
> > > seems to me that if these vandals can force a dialout,
> > they may be smart
> > > enough to make the dialout silent.
> > >
> > > Is there anything I can do to prevent this?
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Thanks for your feedback.

I had already thought of that, and MSIE was set that way when I got the
dialups. I should have mentioned that in my original message.

I don't think MSIE is doing the dialing. I think some malicious
webmasters program scripts that do it. I could easily be wrong, but it is
the only theory that seems to fit.


"Keppy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Look in Internet Explorer, in the tools menu, internet options the
> connections tab, and be sure it says NEVER dial a connection.
> Carol
>
> "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:40c8767b$1@wobble...
> > I couldn't find the setting you are talking about. Do you have any
> more
> > information?
> >
> > I have Spybot, and it says I'm clean. I don't think it's spyware.
I
> > think it's a script that executes when you call up it's resident web
page.
> >
> > "Pop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > In IE's Tools, Options, I think the Advanced tab, there is a
> > > setting to warn you before switching internet calls or
> > > something like that. While you do the other things I'd
> > > check that out - but also do the adware etc. suggestions.
> > > Spybot can look for a lot of dialer robots too, in case it
> > > got into your hd.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Will Denny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Try these programs to check for any spyware that may be on
> > > your system:
> > > >
> > > > Ad-Aware - www.lavasoftusa.com
> > > > Spybot - http://www.safer-networking.org/
> > > > CWShredder -
> > > http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
> > > >
> > > > Also see the following link:
> > > >
> > > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Will Denny
> > > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > > > Please reply to the News Groups
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:40c76851$1@wobble...
> > > > There was a website I logged on to that caused a
> > > dialout of my modem.
> > > > It wasn't an annomaly because I went back to the same
> > > website to see if it
> > > > would happen again, and it did. Even though I could hear
> > > the dialout, I did
> > > > not know how to stop it, other than shutting down my
> > > computer. I have heard
> > > > that sometimes websites will force dialouts to 900
> > > numbers, etc., and that
> > > > the call can connect and go on for hours running up some
> > > horrible bills.
> > > >
> > > > I also think I may have been lucky in that I heard the
> > > dialout. It
> > > > seems to me that if these vandals can force a dialout,
> > > they may be smart
> > > > enough to make the dialout silent.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything I can do to prevent this?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Hi Gary,

Haven't followed this post but.....

Right click My Network Places/Properties/Advanced (top toolbar)/Dial-Up
Preferences/Enable Auto-Dial by Location/Uncheck all locations and check off
always ask me before auto dialing. Also, Disable autodial while I am logged
on.

In the Enable Auto-Dial By Location dialog box, select each location for
which you want the automatic dialing feature to operate. Reboot.

Disable or Enable AutoDial (Line 91)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

To view the list of names and addresses recorded by AutoDial, type the
following command at a command prompt: rasautou -s

To delete a name or address entry from the list: Start/Run/Regedit

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\RAS Autodial\Addresses

Disable "Log on using dial-up connection" (Line 77)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:40cd43b8$1@wobble...
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> I had already thought of that, and MSIE was set that way when I got the
> dialups. I should have mentioned that in my original message.
>
> I don't think MSIE is doing the dialing. I think some malicious
> webmasters program scripts that do it. I could easily be wrong, but it is
> the only theory that seems to fit.
>
>
> "Keppy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Look in Internet Explorer, in the tools menu, internet options the
>> connections tab, and be sure it says NEVER dial a connection.
>> Carol
>>
>> "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:40c8767b$1@wobble...
>> > I couldn't find the setting you are talking about. Do you have any
>> more
>> > information?
>> >
>> > I have Spybot, and it says I'm clean. I don't think it's spyware.
> I
>> > think it's a script that executes when you call up it's resident web
> page.
>> >
>> > "Pop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > In IE's Tools, Options, I think the Advanced tab, there is a
>> > > setting to warn you before switching internet calls or
>> > > something like that. While you do the other things I'd
>> > > check that out - but also do the adware etc. suggestions.
>> > > Spybot can look for a lot of dialer robots too, in case it
>> > > got into your hd.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Will Denny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > > Hi
>> > > >
>> > > > Try these programs to check for any spyware that may be on
>> > > your system:
>> > > >
>> > > > Ad-Aware - www.lavasoftusa.com
>> > > > Spybot - http://www.safer-networking.org/
>> > > > CWShredder -
>> > > http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
>> > > >
>> > > > Also see the following link:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > >
>> > > > Will Denny
>> > > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> > > > Please reply to the News Groups
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > > news:40c76851$1@wobble...
>> > > > There was a website I logged on to that caused a
>> > > dialout of my modem.
>> > > > It wasn't an annomaly because I went back to the same
>> > > website to see if it
>> > > > would happen again, and it did. Even though I could hear
>> > > the dialout, I did
>> > > > not know how to stop it, other than shutting down my
>> > > computer. I have heard
>> > > > that sometimes websites will force dialouts to 900
>> > > numbers, etc., and that
>> > > > the call can connect and go on for hours running up some
>> > > horrible bills.
>> > > >
>> > > > I also think I may have been lucky in that I heard the
>> > > dialout. It
>> > > > seems to me that if these vandals can force a dialout,
>> > > they may be smart
>> > > > enough to make the dialout silent.
>> > > >
>> > > > Is there anything I can do to prevent this?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

That will probably fix it. I had one location checked "New location
(the current location)". I don't know what that means, but I unchecked it
and it looks good to me for solving the problem.

Thanks!


"Kelly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Gary,
>
> Haven't followed this post but.....
>
> Right click My Network Places/Properties/Advanced (top toolbar)/Dial-Up
> Preferences/Enable Auto-Dial by Location/Uncheck all locations and check
off
> always ask me before auto dialing. Also, Disable autodial while I am
logged
> on.
>
> In the Enable Auto-Dial By Location dialog box, select each location for
> which you want the automatic dialing feature to operate. Reboot.
>
> Disable or Enable AutoDial (Line 91)
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>
> To view the list of names and addresses recorded by AutoDial, type the
> following command at a command prompt: rasautou -s
>
> To delete a name or address entry from the list: Start/Run/Regedit
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\RAS Autodial\Addresses
>
> Disable "Log on using dial-up connection" (Line 77)
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>
> --
> All the Best,
> Kelly
>
> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>
>
> "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:40cd43b8$1@wobble...
> > Thanks for your feedback.
> >
> > I had already thought of that, and MSIE was set that way when I got
the
> > dialups. I should have mentioned that in my original message.
> >
> > I don't think MSIE is doing the dialing. I think some malicious
> > webmasters program scripts that do it. I could easily be wrong, but it
is
> > the only theory that seems to fit.
> >
> >
> > "Keppy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Look in Internet Explorer, in the tools menu, internet options the
> >> connections tab, and be sure it says NEVER dial a connection.
> >> Carol
> >>
> >> "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:40c8767b$1@wobble...
> >> > I couldn't find the setting you are talking about. Do you have
any
> >> more
> >> > information?
> >> >
> >> > I have Spybot, and it says I'm clean. I don't think it's
spyware.
> > I
> >> > think it's a script that executes when you call up it's resident web
> > page.
> >> >
> >> > "Pop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > > In IE's Tools, Options, I think the Advanced tab, there is a
> >> > > setting to warn you before switching internet calls or
> >> > > something like that. While you do the other things I'd
> >> > > check that out - but also do the adware etc. suggestions.
> >> > > Spybot can look for a lot of dialer robots too, in case it
> >> > > got into your hd.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Will Denny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > > > Hi
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Try these programs to check for any spyware that may be on
> >> > > your system:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ad-Aware - www.lavasoftusa.com
> >> > > > Spybot - http://www.safer-networking.org/
> >> > > > CWShredder -
> >> > > http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also see the following link:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Will Denny
> >> > > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >> > > > Please reply to the News Groups
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > > news:40c76851$1@wobble...
> >> > > > There was a website I logged on to that caused a
> >> > > dialout of my modem.
> >> > > > It wasn't an annomaly because I went back to the same
> >> > > website to see if it
> >> > > > would happen again, and it did. Even though I could hear
> >> > > the dialout, I did
> >> > > > not know how to stop it, other than shutting down my
> >> > > computer. I have heard
> >> > > > that sometimes websites will force dialouts to 900
> >> > > numbers, etc., and that
> >> > > > the call can connect and go on for hours running up some
> >> > > horrible bills.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I also think I may have been lucky in that I heard the
> >> > > dialout. It
> >> > > > seems to me that if these vandals can force a dialout,
> >> > > they may be smart
> >> > > > enough to make the dialout silent.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Is there anything I can do to prevent this?
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Most welcome, Gary. Hope all goes well. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:40cdd9ed$1@wobble...
> That will probably fix it. I had one location checked "New location
> (the current location)". I don't know what that means, but I unchecked it
> and it looks good to me for solving the problem.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> "Kelly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> Haven't followed this post but.....
>>
>> Right click My Network Places/Properties/Advanced (top toolbar)/Dial-Up
>> Preferences/Enable Auto-Dial by Location/Uncheck all locations and check
> off
>> always ask me before auto dialing. Also, Disable autodial while I am
> logged
>> on.
>>
>> In the Enable Auto-Dial By Location dialog box, select each location for
>> which you want the automatic dialing feature to operate. Reboot.
>>
>> Disable or Enable AutoDial (Line 91)
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>>
>> To view the list of names and addresses recorded by AutoDial, type the
>> following command at a command prompt: rasautou -s
>>
>> To delete a name or address entry from the list: Start/Run/Regedit
>>
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\RAS Autodial\Addresses
>>
>> Disable "Log on using dial-up connection" (Line 77)
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>>
>> --
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly
>>
>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>
>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>
>>
>> "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:40cd43b8$1@wobble...
>> > Thanks for your feedback.
>> >
>> > I had already thought of that, and MSIE was set that way when I got
> the
>> > dialups. I should have mentioned that in my original message.
>> >
>> > I don't think MSIE is doing the dialing. I think some malicious
>> > webmasters program scripts that do it. I could easily be wrong, but it
> is
>> > the only theory that seems to fit.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Keppy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> Look in Internet Explorer, in the tools menu, internet options the
>> >> connections tab, and be sure it says NEVER dial a connection.
>> >> Carol
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:40c8767b$1@wobble...
>> >> > I couldn't find the setting you are talking about. Do you have
> any
>> >> more
>> >> > information?
>> >> >
>> >> > I have Spybot, and it says I'm clean. I don't think it's
> spyware.
>> > I
>> >> > think it's a script that executes when you call up it's resident web
>> > page.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Pop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > > In IE's Tools, Options, I think the Advanced tab, there is a
>> >> > > setting to warn you before switching internet calls or
>> >> > > something like that. While you do the other things I'd
>> >> > > check that out - but also do the adware etc. suggestions.
>> >> > > Spybot can look for a lot of dialer robots too, in case it
>> >> > > got into your hd.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Will Denny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > > > Hi
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Try these programs to check for any spyware that may be on
>> >> > > your system:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Ad-Aware - www.lavasoftusa.com
>> >> > > > Spybot - http://www.safer-networking.org/
>> >> > > > CWShredder -
>> >> > > http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Also see the following link:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Will Denny
>> >> > > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> >> > > > Please reply to the News Groups
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > "Gary Burton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:40c76851$1@wobble...
>> >> > > > There was a website I logged on to that caused a
>> >> > > dialout of my modem.
>> >> > > > It wasn't an annomaly because I went back to the same
>> >> > > website to see if it
>> >> > > > would happen again, and it did. Even though I could hear
>> >> > > the dialout, I did
>> >> > > > not know how to stop it, other than shutting down my
>> >> > > computer. I have heard
>> >> > > > that sometimes websites will force dialouts to 900
>> >> > > numbers, etc., and that
>> >> > > > the call can connect and go on for hours running up some
>> >> > > horrible bills.
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>> >> > > > I also think I may have been lucky in that I heard the
>> >> > > dialout. It
>> >> > > > seems to me that if these vandals can force a dialout,
>> >> > > they may be smart
>> >> > > > enough to make the dialout silent.
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>> >> > > > Is there anything I can do to prevent this?
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