I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...TextAfterNotes.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"PaulK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:635FAD85-C00A-411D-8CCC-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
> all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them
> to
> the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent
> breaks
> or section insertions.
> However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
> precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
> endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
> course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just
> one
> or two sections instead of where they belonged).

On Jun 10, 7:41*am, PaulK <Pa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - *I converted
> all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them to
> the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent breaks
> or section insertions.
> However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
> precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
> endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
> course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just one
> or two sections instead of where they belonged).

Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
reader (and for Word, too ...).

Stefan,

Looks like real good info. Thanks. I'm gonna try it.

Paul

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

> See
> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...TextAfterNotes.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
>
>
> "PaulK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:635FAD85-C00A-411D-8CCC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
> > all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them
> > to
> > the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent
> > breaks
> > or section insertions.
> > However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
> > precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
> > endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
> > course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just
> > one
> > or two sections instead of where they belonged).
>
>
>
>

It's personal preference. I'm leaving explanatory footnotes where they are
and just converting the referential footnotes into endnotes. There are an
awful lot of them to leave at the bottom of the pages (227). Makes for a
longer book, too.

Paul

"grammatim" wrote:

> On Jun 10, 7:41 am, PaulK <Pa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
> > all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them to
> > the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent breaks
> > or section insertions.
> > However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
> > precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
> > endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
> > course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just one
> > or two sections instead of where they belonged).
>
> Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
> reader (and for Word, too ...).
>

O.K. I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout and discovered that some
sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but they are
all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page but
the suppress checkbox never became accesible.

Any suggestions?????

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

> See
> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...TextAfterNotes.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
>
>
> "PaulK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:635FAD85-C00A-411D-8CCC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
> > all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them
> > to
> > the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent
> > breaks
> > or section insertions.
> > However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
> > precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
> > endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
> > course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just
> > one
> > or two sections instead of where they belonged).
>
>
>
>

Have you changed the placement option from "End of document" to "End of
section"?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"PaulK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:B46D1D3C-E8FE-4268-AE55-(E-Mail Removed)...
> O.K. I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout and discovered that some
> sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but they
> are
> all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page but
> the suppress checkbox never became accesible.
>
> Any suggestions?????
>
> "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>
>> See
>> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...TextAfterNotes.
>>
>> --
>> Stefan Blom
>> Microsoft Word MVP
>>
>>
>> "PaulK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:635FAD85-C00A-411D-8CCC-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I
>> >converted
>> > all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends
>> > them
>> > to
>> > the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent
>> > breaks
>> > or section insertions.
>> > However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
>> > precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
>> > endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but
>> > of
>> > course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in
>> > just
>> > one
>> > or two sections instead of where they belonged).
>>
>>
>>
>>

O.K. I am replying here at the bottom of the que so it will be easier to
find. As I mentioned above, I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout and
discovered that some
sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but they are
all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page but
the suppress checkbox never became accessible.

I also opened a number of existing documents with multiple sections, and
found that SUPPRESS ENDNOTES was grayed out on all of them, no matter which
doc or section I tried.

So I went to another laptop (both are running Word 2003 w/VISTA) and found
exactly the same thing. Why is Word not letting me access this function? Some
are checked and some are not, but all are grayed out.

"PaulK" wrote:

> It's personal preference. I'm leaving explanatory footnotes where they are
> and just converting the referential footnotes into endnotes. There are an
> awful lot of them to leave at the bottom of the pages (227). Makes for a
> longer book, too.
>
> Paul
>
> "grammatim" wrote:
>
> > On Jun 10, 7:41 am, PaulK <Pa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
> > > all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them to
> > > the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent breaks
> > > or section insertions.
> > > However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
> > > precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
> > > endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
> > > course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just one
> > > or two sections instead of where they belonged).
> >
> > Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
> > reader (and for Word, too ...).
> >

Please see my reply to your previous question.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"PaulK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:A09EF6B6-7B04-4C3C-9FAF-(E-Mail Removed)...
> O.K. I am replying here at the bottom of the que so it will be easier to
> find. As I mentioned above, I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout and
> discovered that some
> sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but they
> are
> all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page but
> the suppress checkbox never became accessible.
>
> I also opened a number of existing documents with multiple sections, and
> found that SUPPRESS ENDNOTES was grayed out on all of them, no matter
> which
> doc or section I tried.
>
> So I went to another laptop (both are running Word 2003 w/VISTA) and found
> exactly the same thing. Why is Word not letting me access this function?
> Some
> are checked and some are not, but all are grayed out.
>
> "PaulK" wrote:
>
>> It's personal preference. I'm leaving explanatory footnotes where they
>> are
>> and just converting the referential footnotes into endnotes. There are an
>> awful lot of them to leave at the bottom of the pages (227). Makes for a
>> longer book, too.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> "grammatim" wrote:
>>
>> > On Jun 10, 7:41 am, PaulK <Pa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > > I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I
>> > > converted
>> > > all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends
>> > > them to
>> > > the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any
>> > > subsequent breaks
>> > > or section insertions.
>> > > However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes
>> > > to
>> > > precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
>> > > endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice --
>> > > but of
>> > > course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in
>> > > just one
>> > > or two sections instead of where they belonged).
>> >
>> > Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
>> > reader (and for Word, too ...).
>> >

Suzanne,

That worked! What was confusing to me was that the option was grayed out on
both computers and also in documents created by others (as well as new docs I
created to test it). I had thought it would be unique to each document, but
it must be an option retained in Word itself.

A suggestion for those who may come along later: I was not able to apply
SUPPRESS universally; i.e., "Whole document" or "This point forward." I had
to work through the document section by section kind of like herding the
endnotes toward the back. Another thing to be aware of, if I placed my cursor
in the middle of a section to change the PAGE SETUP options, squirrely things
sometimes happened. So I turned on SHOW/HIDE and was careful to place my
insertion point just before the section mark at the end of each section and
that seemed to work fine.

BTW, Suzanne, I'm in Lillian -- small world! Thanks much for your help and
all of the time you put in to make this community of Word users viable. This
is probably the best part of the MS Word experience, the dedicated MVPs.
Lotus WordPro is my regular word processor -- even more than a decade after
being abandoned by its designer, it's still light years ahead of MS Word in
many areas of usability (my opinion, of course).

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

> Please see my reply to your previous question.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "PaulK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:A09EF6B6-7B04-4C3C-9FAF-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > O.K. I am replying here at the bottom of the que so it will be easier to
> > find. As I mentioned above, I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout and
> > discovered that some
> > sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but they
> > are
> > all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page but
> > the suppress checkbox never became accessible.
> >
> > I also opened a number of existing documents with multiple sections, and
> > found that SUPPRESS ENDNOTES was grayed out on all of them, no matter
> > which
> > doc or section I tried.
> >
> > So I went to another laptop (both are running Word 2003 w/VISTA) and found
> > exactly the same thing. Why is Word not letting me access this function?
> > Some
> > are checked and some are not, but all are grayed out.
> >
> > "PaulK" wrote:
> >
> >> It's personal preference. I'm leaving explanatory footnotes where they
> >> are
> >> and just converting the referential footnotes into endnotes. There are an
> >> awful lot of them to leave at the bottom of the pages (227). Makes for a
> >> longer book, too.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> "grammatim" wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Jun 10, 7:41 am, PaulK <Pa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> > > I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I
> >> > > converted
> >> > > all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends
> >> > > them to
> >> > > the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any
> >> > > subsequent breaks
> >> > > or section insertions.
> >> > > However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes
> >> > > to
> >> > > precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
> >> > > endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice --
> >> > > but of
> >> > > course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in
> >> > > just one
> >> > > or two sections instead of where they belonged).
> >> >
> >> > Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
> >> > reader (and for Word, too ...).
> >> >
>
>
>