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Could you do me a favour ?
Open Explorer *inside* one of these folders that won't show up when you try and browse for it in a program like "PEbuilder" - you said you could do that (I think). Then press the "Prnt Scrn" button and paste the result into MS Paint - then save it. Finally, either if you can attach it or paste the picture into a post - I will be able to see it (some others may not, depends on how they view posts). Or, post it (free to use) on http://twitpic.com/ and then quote the picture's url here... If none of the above is possible (or, even if you can) also, quote the exact pathnames of the problem folders - it's quite likely that there is some common denominator that will give us a clue what is happening here. == Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news  DCBA460-0371-4F13-9137-(E-Mail Removed)...> that is exactly what the problem is. I tried the show hidden o/s files > also > along with show hidden files and folders. No luck. > > "Tim Meddick" wrote: > >> I am STILL a bit "hazy" as to exactly what your problem actually is... >> >> As far as I can tell, it's that you while you can "see" the drive in >> Explorer, when you are "browsing for files" to create your PE builder >> disk, >> there are certain folders you know are there - but do not show up - Is >> that >> right ?? >> >> From what you have already said, my advice would be to go into ; >> >> "Control Panel" - "Folder Options" - "View" (tab) >> >> ....and set "Hidden files and folders" to "Show hidden files and >> folders", >> plus, un-check the box marked "Hide protected operating system files >> (recommended)" below it. >> >> That may do the trick. But, as I said in my last post, all I can go on >> is >> what you've written in yours - and I could easily have mis-interpreted >> it!! >> >> So, if I have got it wrong, please re-post and correct me as to what the >> "crux" is of your problem... >> >> == >> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >> >> >> >> >> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:8B0EC675-9379-4E1A-A910-(E-Mail Removed)... >> > hidden box is not checked off >> > drives-drive 1 is c: & d: (partitioned). drive 2 is g:. Drives d&g are >> > totally empty as i have not put anything on them yet. >> > >> > did cmd.exe c shows 2 files 6 dir 214,123,130,880 bytes free. >> > it was a 500gig hard drive partitioned in half. >> > >> > d: & g: say no files found. >> > I set the hkey-current user value to 0 >> > >> > Phil >> > >> > >> > "Tim Meddick" wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Your description lacks some essential detail... >> >> >> >> I would like to know ; >> >> >> >> What drives are listed in "My Computer" ? >> >> >> >> In the "Explorer", "My Documents" folder, right-click any empty >> >> area >> >> and choose "Properties" - Is the "hidden" attribute box checkmarked >> >> ? >> >> >> >> Press the "Win key" + "R" together - the "Run" box appears - type in >> >> : >> >> diskmgmt.msc and click [ok] What volumes (drives) are listed in >> >> "Disk >> >> Management" ? >> >> >> >> Type : cmd.exe into the "Run" box - At the Command Prompt type >> >> : >> >> dir c:\ ...and then; dir d:\ dir e:\ etc., >> >> etc.,....which >> >> drives are present.? >> >> >> >> >> >> There is a registry setting that can hide selected drives. You can >> >> make >> >> sure this setting is not hiding any drives by opening "Regedit.exe" >> >> and >> >> deleting the following value [and *only* this value] (or setting it >> >> to >> >> 0 >> >> [zero]) : >> >> >> >> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer] >> >> "NoDrives"=- >> >> >> >> *N.B. There's also a similar-named value under this key : >> >> "NoDriveTypeAutoRun" which has nothing to do with showing / hiding >> >> drives >> >> in Explorer. >> >> >> >> === >> >> >> >> I would, with honesty, describe myself as an "enthusiast", as I know >> >> most >> >> regular users of this group are twice as knowledgeable as me. >> >> >> >> However, it took me a while before even I learnt the most important >> >> thing >> >> in diagnosing computer problems : - to include as much detail in your >> >> explanation as possible! You may not know what any of it means, but >> >> someone will, plus, as you and I don't know what's important and what >> >> isn't, you should include EVERYTHING (time allowing). >> >> >> >> == >> >> >> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> >> news:20BD1985-8C6D-4321-B68C-(E-Mail Removed)... >> >> >I am using win xp sp3. I just put a new hard drive. I re-install >> >> >o/s >> >> >and >> >> > reinstalled docs& settings from a external hard drive. I am trying >> >> > to >> >> > use >> >> > macrium and make a bart pe disk. All of my files are hidden. IWhen >> >> > i >> >> > download >> >> > something to my documents if i go directly to my documents i can >> >> > see >> >> > them. If >> >> > i go into windows explorer they are not visable. How can I make >> >> > them >> >> > not >> >> > hidden? I went into folders and clicked show hidden folders. >> >> > Thank you, Phil >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> >> . >> |
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C:\Documents and Settings\Karen\My Documents\ms paint.bmp
phil "Tim Meddick" wrote: > Could you do me a favour ? > > Open Explorer *inside* one of these folders that won't show up when you try > and browse for it in a program like "PEbuilder" - you said you could do > that (I think). > > Then press the "Prnt Scrn" button and paste the result into MS Paint - then > save it. > > Finally, either if you can attach it or paste the picture into a post - I > will be able to see it (some others may not, depends on how they view > posts). Or, post it (free to use) on http://twitpic.com/ and then quote > the picture's url here... > > If none of the above is possible (or, even if you can) also, quote the > exact pathnames of the problem folders - it's quite likely that there is > some common denominator that will give us a clue what is happening here. > > == > > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > > > > > "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news DCBA460-0371-4F13-9137-(E-Mail Removed)...> > that is exactly what the problem is. I tried the show hidden o/s files > > also > > along with show hidden files and folders. No luck. > > > > "Tim Meddick" wrote: > > > >> I am STILL a bit "hazy" as to exactly what your problem actually is... > >> > >> As far as I can tell, it's that you while you can "see" the drive in > >> Explorer, when you are "browsing for files" to create your PE builder > >> disk, > >> there are certain folders you know are there - but do not show up - Is > >> that > >> right ?? > >> > >> From what you have already said, my advice would be to go into ; > >> > >> "Control Panel" - "Folder Options" - "View" (tab) > >> > >> ....and set "Hidden files and folders" to "Show hidden files and > >> folders", > >> plus, un-check the box marked "Hide protected operating system files > >> (recommended)" below it. > >> > >> That may do the trick. But, as I said in my last post, all I can go on > >> is > >> what you've written in yours - and I could easily have mis-interpreted > >> it!! > >> > >> So, if I have got it wrong, please re-post and correct me as to what the > >> "crux" is of your problem... > >> > >> == > >> > >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> news:8B0EC675-9379-4E1A-A910-(E-Mail Removed)... > >> > hidden box is not checked off > >> > drives-drive 1 is c: & d: (partitioned). drive 2 is g:. Drives d&g are > >> > totally empty as i have not put anything on them yet. > >> > > >> > did cmd.exe c shows 2 files 6 dir 214,123,130,880 bytes free. > >> > it was a 500gig hard drive partitioned in half. > >> > > >> > d: & g: say no files found. > >> > I set the hkey-current user value to 0 > >> > > >> > Phil > >> > > >> > > >> > "Tim Meddick" wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Your description lacks some essential detail... > >> >> > >> >> I would like to know ; > >> >> > >> >> What drives are listed in "My Computer" ? > >> >> > >> >> In the "Explorer", "My Documents" folder, right-click any empty > >> >> area > >> >> and choose "Properties" - Is the "hidden" attribute box checkmarked > >> >> ? > >> >> > >> >> Press the "Win key" + "R" together - the "Run" box appears - type in > >> >> : > >> >> diskmgmt.msc and click [ok] What volumes (drives) are listed in > >> >> "Disk > >> >> Management" ? > >> >> > >> >> Type : cmd.exe into the "Run" box - At the Command Prompt type > >> >> : > >> >> dir c:\ ...and then; dir d:\ dir e:\ etc., > >> >> etc.,....which > >> >> drives are present.? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> There is a registry setting that can hide selected drives. You can > >> >> make > >> >> sure this setting is not hiding any drives by opening "Regedit.exe" > >> >> and > >> >> deleting the following value [and *only* this value] (or setting it > >> >> to > >> >> 0 > >> >> [zero]) : > >> >> > >> >> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer] > >> >> "NoDrives"=- > >> >> > >> >> *N.B. There's also a similar-named value under this key : > >> >> "NoDriveTypeAutoRun" which has nothing to do with showing / hiding > >> >> drives > >> >> in Explorer. > >> >> > >> >> === > >> >> > >> >> I would, with honesty, describe myself as an "enthusiast", as I know > >> >> most > >> >> regular users of this group are twice as knowledgeable as me. > >> >> > >> >> However, it took me a while before even I learnt the most important > >> >> thing > >> >> in diagnosing computer problems : - to include as much detail in your > >> >> explanation as possible! You may not know what any of it means, but > >> >> someone will, plus, as you and I don't know what's important and what > >> >> isn't, you should include EVERYTHING (time allowing). > >> >> > >> >> == > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> >> news:20BD1985-8C6D-4321-B68C-(E-Mail Removed)... > >> >> >I am using win xp sp3. I just put a new hard drive. I re-install > >> >> >o/s > >> >> >and > >> >> > reinstalled docs& settings from a external hard drive. I am trying > >> >> > to > >> >> > use > >> >> > macrium and make a bart pe disk. All of my files are hidden. IWhen > >> >> > i > >> >> > download > >> >> > something to my documents if i go directly to my documents i can > >> >> > see > >> >> > them. If > >> >> > i go into windows explorer they are not visable. How can I make > >> >> > them > >> >> > not > >> >> > hidden? I went into folders and clicked show hidden folders. > >> >> > Thank you, Phil > >> >> > >> >> . > >> >> > >> > >> . > >> > > . > |
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Sorry, it's my fault if it wasn't clear, when you send your next post to
this group - past the actual picture itself underneath the text of your reply. If you tried that, and it resulted in only the path to the image being sent, consider posting it on the free website http://twitpic.com == Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:83B7070F-659E-4E51-BE1A-(E-Mail Removed)... > C:\Documents and Settings\Karen\My Documents\ms paint.bmp > > phil > > "Tim Meddick" wrote: > >> Could you do me a favour ? >> >> Open Explorer *inside* one of these folders that won't show up when you >> try >> and browse for it in a program like "PEbuilder" - you said you could do >> that (I think). >> >> Then press the "Prnt Scrn" button and paste the result into MS Paint - >> then >> save it. >> >> Finally, either if you can attach it or paste the picture into a post - >> I >> will be able to see it (some others may not, depends on how they view >> posts). Or, post it (free to use) on http://twitpic.com/ and then >> quote >> the picture's url here... >> >> If none of the above is possible (or, even if you can) also, quote the >> exact pathnames of the problem folders - it's quite likely that there is >> some common denominator that will give us a clue what is happening here. >> >> == >> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >> >> >> >> >> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news DCBA460-0371-4F13-9137-(E-Mail Removed)...>> > that is exactly what the problem is. I tried the show hidden o/s files >> > also >> > along with show hidden files and folders. No luck. >> > >> > "Tim Meddick" wrote: >> > >> >> I am STILL a bit "hazy" as to exactly what your problem actually >> >> is... >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell, it's that you while you can "see" the drive in >> >> Explorer, when you are "browsing for files" to create your PE builder >> >> disk, >> >> there are certain folders you know are there - but do not show up - >> >> Is >> >> that >> >> right ?? >> >> >> >> From what you have already said, my advice would be to go into ; >> >> >> >> "Control Panel" - "Folder Options" - "View" (tab) >> >> >> >> ....and set "Hidden files and folders" to "Show hidden files and >> >> folders", >> >> plus, un-check the box marked "Hide protected operating system files >> >> (recommended)" below it. >> >> >> >> That may do the trick. But, as I said in my last post, all I can go >> >> on >> >> is >> >> what you've written in yours - and I could easily have >> >> mis-interpreted >> >> it!! >> >> >> >> So, if I have got it wrong, please re-post and correct me as to what >> >> the >> >> "crux" is of your problem... >> >> >> >> == >> >> >> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> >> news:8B0EC675-9379-4E1A-A910-(E-Mail Removed)... >> >> > hidden box is not checked off >> >> > drives-drive 1 is c: & d: (partitioned). drive 2 is g:. Drives d&g >> >> > are >> >> > totally empty as i have not put anything on them yet. >> >> > >> >> > did cmd.exe c shows 2 files 6 dir 214,123,130,880 bytes free. >> >> > it was a 500gig hard drive partitioned in half. >> >> > >> >> > d: & g: say no files found. >> >> > I set the hkey-current user value to 0 >> >> > >> >> > Phil >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Tim Meddick" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Your description lacks some essential detail... >> >> >> >> >> >> I would like to know ; >> >> >> >> >> >> What drives are listed in "My Computer" ? >> >> >> >> >> >> In the "Explorer", "My Documents" folder, right-click any >> >> >> empty >> >> >> area >> >> >> and choose "Properties" - Is the "hidden" attribute box >> >> >> checkmarked >> >> >> ? >> >> >> >> >> >> Press the "Win key" + "R" together - the "Run" box appears - type >> >> >> in >> >> >> : >> >> >> diskmgmt.msc and click [ok] What volumes (drives) are listed in >> >> >> "Disk >> >> >> Management" ? >> >> >> >> >> >> Type : cmd.exe into the "Run" box - At the Command Prompt >> >> >> type >> >> >> : >> >> >> dir c:\ ...and then; dir d:\ dir e:\ etc., >> >> >> etc.,....which >> >> >> drives are present.? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> There is a registry setting that can hide selected drives. You >> >> >> can >> >> >> make >> >> >> sure this setting is not hiding any drives by opening >> >> >> "Regedit.exe" >> >> >> and >> >> >> deleting the following value [and *only* this value] (or setting >> >> >> it >> >> >> to >> >> >> 0 >> >> >> [zero]) : >> >> >> >> >> >> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer] >> >> >> "NoDrives"=- >> >> >> >> >> >> *N.B. There's also a similar-named value under this key : >> >> >> "NoDriveTypeAutoRun" which has nothing to do with showing / >> >> >> hiding >> >> >> drives >> >> >> in Explorer. >> >> >> >> >> >> === >> >> >> >> >> >> I would, with honesty, describe myself as an "enthusiast", as I >> >> >> know >> >> >> most >> >> >> regular users of this group are twice as knowledgeable as me. >> >> >> >> >> >> However, it took me a while before even I learnt the most >> >> >> important >> >> >> thing >> >> >> in diagnosing computer problems : - to include as much detail in >> >> >> your >> >> >> explanation as possible! You may not know what any of it means, >> >> >> but >> >> >> someone will, plus, as you and I don't know what's important and >> >> >> what >> >> >> isn't, you should include EVERYTHING (time allowing). >> >> >> >> >> >> == >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> >> >> news:20BD1985-8C6D-4321-B68C-(E-Mail Removed)... >> >> >> >I am using win xp sp3. I just put a new hard drive. I re-install >> >> >> >o/s >> >> >> >and >> >> >> > reinstalled docs& settings from a external hard drive. I am >> >> >> > trying >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > use >> >> >> > macrium and make a bart pe disk. All of my files are hidden. >> >> >> > IWhen >> >> >> > i >> >> >> > download >> >> >> > something to my documents if i go directly to my documents i can >> >> >> > see >> >> >> > them. If >> >> >> > i go into windows explorer they are not visable. How can I make >> >> >> > them >> >> >> > not >> >> >> > hidden? I went into folders and clicked show hidden folders. >> >> >> > Thank you, Phil >> >> >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> >> . >> |
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C:\Documents and Settings\Karen\My Documents\ms paint.bmp phil "Tim Meddick" wrote: > Sorry, it's my fault if it wasn't clear, when you send your next post to > this group - past the actual picture itself underneath the text of your > reply. > > If you tried that, and it resulted in only the path to the image being > sent, consider posting it on the free website http://twitpic.com > > == > > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > > > > > "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:83B7070F-659E-4E51-BE1A-(E-Mail Removed)... > > C:\Documents and Settings\Karen\My Documents\ms paint.bmp > > > > phil > > > > "Tim Meddick" wrote: > > > >> Could you do me a favour ? > >> > >> Open Explorer *inside* one of these folders that won't show up when you > >> try > >> and browse for it in a program like "PEbuilder" - you said you could do > >> that (I think). > >> > >> Then press the "Prnt Scrn" button and paste the result into MS Paint - > >> then > >> save it. > >> > >> Finally, either if you can attach it or paste the picture into a post - > >> I > >> will be able to see it (some others may not, depends on how they view > >> posts). Or, post it (free to use) on http://twitpic.com/ and then > >> quote > >> the picture's url here... > >> > >> If none of the above is possible (or, even if you can) also, quote the > >> exact pathnames of the problem folders - it's quite likely that there is > >> some common denominator that will give us a clue what is happening here. > >> > >> == > >> > >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> news DCBA460-0371-4F13-9137-(E-Mail Removed)...> >> > that is exactly what the problem is. I tried the show hidden o/s files > >> > also > >> > along with show hidden files and folders. No luck. > >> > > >> > "Tim Meddick" wrote: > >> > > >> >> I am STILL a bit "hazy" as to exactly what your problem actually > >> >> is... > >> >> > >> >> As far as I can tell, it's that you while you can "see" the drive in > >> >> Explorer, when you are "browsing for files" to create your PE builder > >> >> disk, > >> >> there are certain folders you know are there - but do not show up - > >> >> Is > >> >> that > >> >> right ?? > >> >> > >> >> From what you have already said, my advice would be to go into ; > >> >> > >> >> "Control Panel" - "Folder Options" - "View" (tab) > >> >> > >> >> ....and set "Hidden files and folders" to "Show hidden files and > >> >> folders", > >> >> plus, un-check the box marked "Hide protected operating system files > >> >> (recommended)" below it. > >> >> > >> >> That may do the trick. But, as I said in my last post, all I can go > >> >> on > >> >> is > >> >> what you've written in yours - and I could easily have > >> >> mis-interpreted > >> >> it!! > >> >> > >> >> So, if I have got it wrong, please re-post and correct me as to what > >> >> the > >> >> "crux" is of your problem... > >> >> > >> >> == > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> >> news:8B0EC675-9379-4E1A-A910-(E-Mail Removed)... > >> >> > hidden box is not checked off > >> >> > drives-drive 1 is c: & d: (partitioned). drive 2 is g:. Drives d&g > >> >> > are > >> >> > totally empty as i have not put anything on them yet. > >> >> > > >> >> > did cmd.exe c shows 2 files 6 dir 214,123,130,880 bytes free. > >> >> > it was a 500gig hard drive partitioned in half. > >> >> > > >> >> > d: & g: say no files found. > >> >> > I set the hkey-current user value to 0 > >> >> > > >> >> > Phil > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Tim Meddick" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Your description lacks some essential detail... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I would like to know ; > >> >> >> > >> >> >> What drives are listed in "My Computer" ? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> In the "Explorer", "My Documents" folder, right-click any > >> >> >> empty > >> >> >> area > >> >> >> and choose "Properties" - Is the "hidden" attribute box > >> >> >> checkmarked > >> >> >> ? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Press the "Win key" + "R" together - the "Run" box appears - type > >> >> >> in > >> >> >> : > >> >> >> diskmgmt.msc and click [ok] What volumes (drives) are listed in > >> >> >> "Disk > >> >> >> Management" ? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Type : cmd.exe into the "Run" box - At the Command Prompt > >> >> >> type > >> >> >> : > >> >> >> dir c:\ ...and then; dir d:\ dir e:\ etc., > >> >> >> etc.,....which > >> >> >> drives are present.? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> There is a registry setting that can hide selected drives. You > >> >> >> can > >> >> >> make > >> >> >> sure this setting is not hiding any drives by opening > >> >> >> "Regedit.exe" > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> deleting the following value [and *only* this value] (or setting > >> >> >> it > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> 0 > >> >> >> [zero]) : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer] > >> >> >> "NoDrives"=- > >> >> >> > >> >> >> *N.B. There's also a similar-named value under this key : > >> >> >> "NoDriveTypeAutoRun" which has nothing to do with showing / > >> >> >> hiding > >> >> >> drives > >> >> >> in Explorer. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> === > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I would, with honesty, describe myself as an "enthusiast", as I > >> >> >> know > >> >> >> most > >> >> >> regular users of this group are twice as knowledgeable as me. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> However, it took me a while before even I learnt the most > >> >> >> important > >> >> >> thing > >> >> >> in diagnosing computer problems : - to include as much detail in > >> >> >> your > >> >> >> explanation as possible! You may not know what any of it means, > >> >> >> but > >> >> >> someone will, plus, as you and I don't know what's important and > >> >> >> what > >> >> >> isn't, you should include EVERYTHING (time allowing). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> == > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:20BD1985-8C6D-4321-B68C-(E-Mail Removed)... > >> >> >> >I am using win xp sp3. I just put a new hard drive. I re-install > >> >> >> >o/s > >> >> >> >and > >> >> >> > reinstalled docs& settings from a external hard drive. I am > >> >> >> > trying > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> > use > >> >> >> > macrium and make a bart pe disk. All of my files are hidden. > >> >> >> > IWhen > >> >> >> > i > >> >> >> > download > >> >> >> > something to my documents if i go directly to my documents i can > >> >> >> > see > >> >> >> > them. If > >> >> >> > i go into windows explorer they are not visable. How can I make > >> >> >> > them > >> >> >> > not > >> >> >> > hidden? I went into folders and clicked show hidden folders. > >> >> >> > Thank you, Phil > >> >> >> > >> >> >> . > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> . > >> >> > >> > >> . > >> > > . > |
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