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Phillip Windell
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      27th Mar 2008
The structure of NT4 domains is not relevant to this. You need to describe
the situation in the correct terms for the context of a Windows 200x Active
Directory Domain Structure.

1. An Active Directory cannot exist on its own without a "Forest".
2. A Forest can have many Domains in it
3. A Single Domain within a Forest can have many Domains underneath it in
the form of Child Domains.

Please describe the situation based on these things.

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"dave goldman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have 2 PDC's. Server2 in Domain 2, & Server3 in Domain 3. I just created
> Server2 as the previous one (running NT4), died after many years. All the
> boxes are on a class 2 subnet & all see each other. Following the
> tradition
> procedure in active directory/ ...trust /. entering passwords from both
> boxes
> doesn't work. I did delete the previous relationship on Server3 for the
> former
> Server2.
>
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dave goldman
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      27th Mar 2008
I have 2 PDC's. Server2 in Domain 2, & Server3 in Domain 3. I just created
Server2 as the previous one (running NT4), died after many years. All the
boxes are on a class 2 subnet & all see each other. Following the tradition
procedure in active directory/ ...trust /. entering passwords from both boxes
doesn't work. I did delete the previous relationship on Server3 for the former
Server2.

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Phillip Windell
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      27th Mar 2008
"dave goldman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Perhaps I configured the Server2 incorrectly when installing. I remember
> choosing "no" when asked if this domain was to exist in a forest w/ other
> domain controllers.


Then you created multiple Forests with a single Domain within each Forest.

> My intention is for each of the domain controlers to function as "PDC's
> in seperate
> domains.


There is a PDC FSMO "Role",...but there is no such thing as a PDC or BDC
after NT4.
The Domain is no longer at the highest level or top of the food-chain,...the
Forest is at the highest level and the Domain exists below that.

For the multiple Forests you created to trust each other you will have to
set up DNS Zone Transfers between the DC in one Domain/Forest to the DC in
the other Domain/Forest. This way the two Forests will be "aware" of each
others DNS Tree and you will be able to establish a Flat Inter-Forest Trust.

If this is too much work,...then start over with the second DC and when you
promote it again you need to choose one of the other options in the *same
existing* Forest. You can have two Domains in a Forest that are at an
"equal" level,...or you can have two Domains with one below the other
(Parent/Child model). I believe all Domains within a Forest are
automatically aware of each other DNS Tree and the Trust shouldn't be a
problem.

Others with more experience with this are welcome to tweek my details if I
am not quite correct.


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dave goldman
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      27th Mar 2008
Perhaps I configured the Server2 incorrectly when installing. I remember
choosing "no" when asked if this domain was to exist in a forest w/ other
domain controllers. My intention is for each of the domain controlers to
function as "PDC's in seperate domains. Are these terms even correct for this
invoirment. I'm afraid my training is dated. I have managed to keep everything
configured & running & as I explained, I can still access resources on all the
workstations.

In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Phillip Windell"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>The structure of NT4 domains is not relevant to this. You need to describe
>the situation in the correct terms for the context of a Windows 200x Active
>Directory Domain Structure.
>
>1. An Active Directory cannot exist on its own without a "Forest".
>2. A Forest can have many Domains in it
>3. A Single Domain within a Forest can have many Domains underneath it in
>the form of Child Domains.
>
>Please describe the situation based on these things.
>


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bruce@brucenet.net
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      29th Mar 2008
Thanks. I understand. If I use dcpromo.exe to "demote" the server, then run it
again, will I have the option to put the server in the same forest, or do I
need to do a new install ?


In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Phillip Windell"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>"dave goldman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:47ec0022$0$28227$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Perhaps I configured the Server2 incorrectly when installing. I remember
>> choosing "no" when asked if this domain was to exist in a forest w/ other
>> domain controllers.

>
>Then you created multiple Forests with a single Domain within each Forest.
>
>> My intention is for each of the domain controlers to function as "PDC's
>> in seperate
>> domains.

>
>There is a PDC FSMO "Role",...but there is no such thing as a PDC or BDC
>after NT4.
>The Domain is no longer at the highest level or top of the food-chain,...the
>Forest is at the highest level and the Domain exists below that.
>
>For the multiple Forests you created to trust each other you will have to
>set up DNS Zone Transfers between the DC in one Domain/Forest to the DC in
>the other Domain/Forest. This way the two Forests will be "aware" of each
>others DNS Tree and you will be able to establish a Flat Inter-Forest Trust.
>
>If this is too much work,...then start over with the second DC and when you
>promote it again you need to choose one of the other options in the *same
>existing* Forest. You can have two Domains in a Forest that are at an
>"equal" level,...or you can have two Domains with one below the other
>(Parent/Child model). I believe all Domains within a Forest are
>automatically aware of each other DNS Tree and the Trust shouldn't be a
>problem.
>
>Others with more experience with this are welcome to tweek my details if I
>am not quite correct.
>
>


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      31st Mar 2008
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thanks. I understand. If I use dcpromo.exe to "demote" the server, then
> run it
> again, will I have the option to put the server in the same forest, or do
> I
> need to do a new install ?


You don't have to reinstall.

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