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Can my mobo support an internal card reader? Pics included.

 
 
Go Tyler
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      14th Dec 2005
I just bought this front panel usb thing for my comp:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998813


It came with a cable that looks like this:
http://tinypic.com/ilwolw.jpg

It is hard to see in the pic, but it goes from the card reader to the
motherboard somewhere. It has just 4 holes and it says VCC, D-, D+, and GND.
The instructions say to connect it to "the pin header of the motherboard."

Does the MOBO specifically have to support a card reader? I can't see where
mine does, although I see all kinds of headers that seem to go with this
cable. Here is my MOBO:

http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm


 
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Bob Knowlden
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      14th Dec 2005
Do you have a copy of your mainboard manual? If not, it's available for
download:

http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/..._p4s533-mx.pdf

The pinouts for the USB header are given on p. 1-19. It appears that the
header is intended for an auxiliary port that fits in a disused PCI slot
opening and provides 2 more USB ports, but you should be able to use it
differently if you desire. (I don't know how your connector is wired, to see
whether it would mate properly.) As you can see, there a 4 pins for each USB
port, all in a row: +5V (=Vcc), Signal - (D-, I suppose), Signal +, and a
ground. Either side should be usable.

I've used a USB header in my own system (Asus A8V Deluxe mainboard) with
front panel USB ports of my PC case. The connections there used individual
pins, though, rather than a 4 pin connector. It was a little awkward, but
not difficult.

If that doesn't work for you, I'd guess that the unit may also be connected
using the A/B USB cable that's pictured. The connection to the USB header
would be neater, though. The A/B cable snakes out of the case (through the
PCI slot cover, with hole, that's supplied), and plugs into one of the rear
USB slots. Ugly, but serviceable.

HTH.


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"Go Tyler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:m5Lnf.34695$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I just bought this front panel usb thing for my comp:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998813
>
>
> It came with a cable that looks like this:
> http://tinypic.com/ilwolw.jpg
>
> It is hard to see in the pic, but it goes from the card reader to the
> motherboard somewhere. It has just 4 holes and it says VCC, D-, D+, and
> GND. The instructions say to connect it to "the pin header of the
> motherboard."
>
> Does the MOBO specifically have to support a card reader? I can't see
> where mine does, although I see all kinds of headers that seem to go with
> this cable. Here is my MOBO:
>
> http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm
>



 
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Go Tyler
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      14th Dec 2005
Thank you for helping. The thing is I have no trouble getting the USB port
to work. I just can't get the card reader to work. I guess I am sending this
back to newegg. See you later.

"Bob Knowlden" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Do you have a copy of your mainboard manual? If not, it's available for
> download:
>
> http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/..._p4s533-mx.pdf
>
> The pinouts for the USB header are given on p. 1-19. It appears that the
> header is intended for an auxiliary port that fits in a disused PCI slot
> opening and provides 2 more USB ports, but you should be able to use it
> differently if you desire. (I don't know how your connector is wired, to
> see whether it would mate properly.) As you can see, there a 4 pins for
> each USB port, all in a row: +5V (=Vcc), Signal - (D-, I suppose), Signal
> +, and a ground. Either side should be usable.
>
> I've used a USB header in my own system (Asus A8V Deluxe mainboard) with
> front panel USB ports of my PC case. The connections there used individual
> pins, though, rather than a 4 pin connector. It was a little awkward, but
> not difficult.
>
> If that doesn't work for you, I'd guess that the unit may also be
> connected using the A/B USB cable that's pictured. The connection to the
> USB header would be neater, though. The A/B cable snakes out of the case
> (through the PCI slot cover, with hole, that's supplied), and plugs into
> one of the rear USB slots. Ugly, but serviceable.
>
> HTH.
>
>
> Address scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.
>
> "Go Tyler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:m5Lnf.34695$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I just bought this front panel usb thing for my comp:
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998813
>>
>>
>> It came with a cable that looks like this:
>> http://tinypic.com/ilwolw.jpg
>>
>> It is hard to see in the pic, but it goes from the card reader to the
>> motherboard somewhere. It has just 4 holes and it says VCC, D-, D+, and
>> GND. The instructions say to connect it to "the pin header of the
>> motherboard."
>>
>> Does the MOBO specifically have to support a card reader? I can't see
>> where mine does, although I see all kinds of headers that seem to go with
>> this cable. Here is my MOBO:
>>
>> http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm
>>

>
>



 
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Bob Knowlden
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      15th Dec 2005
I'm confused.

I believe that the reader uses a USB interface for its card reading
function. You say that you "have no trouble getting the USB port to work".
I'm not sure which USB port you're referring to. Have you gotten the card
connected to the mainboard via the USB header, or by the A/B USB cable to an
external USB port? (I don't know whether the reader requires power as well,
but my guess is that it does, probably from one of the Molex connectors.)

Sorry that I couldn't be more helpful. I don't own such a reader myself, and
I was unable to find a downloadable copy of its manual. (I use an external
USB reader myself. It hasn't given any trouble, and it takes no knowldege to
use it.)

"Go Tyler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thank you for helping. The thing is I have no trouble getting the USB port
> to work. I just can't get the card reader to work. I guess I am sending
> this back to newegg. See you later.
>
> "Bob Knowlden" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...

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Go Tyler
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      15th Dec 2005
Thanks for your help. I just returned the product, and I have order an IDE
card reader. Forget this usb stuff. I got plenty of room for ide devices.

See you later.

"Bob Knowlden" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I'm confused.
>
> I believe that the reader uses a USB interface for its card reading
> function. You say that you "have no trouble getting the USB port to work".
> I'm not sure which USB port you're referring to. Have you gotten the card
> connected to the mainboard via the USB header, or by the A/B USB cable to
> an external USB port? (I don't know whether the reader requires power as
> well, but my guess is that it does, probably from one of the Molex
> connectors.)
>
> Sorry that I couldn't be more helpful. I don't own such a reader myself,
> and I was unable to find a downloadable copy of its manual. (I use an
> external USB reader myself. It hasn't given any trouble, and it takes no
> knowldege to use it.)
>
> "Go Tyler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:x2Pnf.34917$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thank you for helping. The thing is I have no trouble getting the USB
>> port to work. I just can't get the card reader to work. I guess I am
>> sending this back to newegg. See you later.
>>
>> "Bob Knowlden" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...

> (snip)
>



 
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Gordon Scott
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      18th Dec 2005
Go Tyler wrote:
>
> I just bought this front panel usb thing for my comp:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998813
>
> It came with a cable that looks like this:
> http://tinypic.com/ilwolw.jpg
>
> It is hard to see in the pic, but it goes from the card reader to the
> motherboard somewhere. It has just 4 holes and it says VCC, D-, D+, and GND.
> The instructions say to connect it to "the pin header of the motherboard."
>
> Does the MOBO specifically have to support a card reader? I can't see where
> mine does, although I see all kinds of headers that seem to go with this
> cable. Here is my MOBO:
>
> http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm


did you load the drivers for the card reader?
btw the newegg link doesnt seem to work.
 
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Paul
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      1st Jan 2006
Just as long as the mobo has USB 2 headers
and the reader is USB 2, it'll work.

All you have to do is make sure you connect the wires
to the right pins from the reader to the mobo header.

Usually, internal card reader wires go from left to right.

ie: They're coloured red,white,green,black black (only one of the black
wires are used).

The black wire always goes on the 4th/5th pin like this.

o o o o o (sometimes the 5th pin isnt on the top row)
R W G B
o o o o o (the 5th pin is also never used, and left blank).
R W G B

Thats all you have to do. XP will read it as a removable disk. No drivers
needed. Unless you want icons for the slots, in which case, you'll have to
install the icons from the manufacturer's cd.

"Gordon Scott" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Go Tyler wrote:
>>
>> I just bought this front panel usb thing for my comp:
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998813
>>
>> It came with a cable that looks like this:
>> http://tinypic.com/ilwolw.jpg
>>
>> It is hard to see in the pic, but it goes from the card reader to the
>> motherboard somewhere. It has just 4 holes and it says VCC, D-, D+, and
>> GND.
>> The instructions say to connect it to "the pin header of the
>> motherboard."
>>
>> Does the MOBO specifically have to support a card reader? I can't see
>> where
>> mine does, although I see all kinds of headers that seem to go with this
>> cable. Here is my MOBO:
>>
>> http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm

>
> did you load the drivers for the card reader?
> btw the newegg link doesnt seem to work.



 
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Bald Guy
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      1st Jan 2006
I have this usb card reader, which is usb plugged into a Syba pci card that
has two usb headers on it:
http://tinyurl.com/8scxj

I have a front panel audio USB panel connected to my USB mobo headers. The
panel looks like this:
http://tinyurl.com/a9pnx

The front panel audio and its usb ports worked fine before I put in the card
reader. Now when I plug something into the front panel USB ports the
computer freezes until I get a pop up saying the disk needs to be formatted.
If I unplug the card reader, the USB front panel starts working again.
Obviously XP is getting confused, but I sure would like to know how to fix
it so that I can use both devices.




"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Just as long as the mobo has USB 2 headers
> and the reader is USB 2, it'll work.
>
> All you have to do is make sure you connect the wires
> to the right pins from the reader to the mobo header.
>
> Usually, internal card reader wires go from left to right.
>
> ie: They're coloured red,white,green,black black (only one of the black
> wires are used).
>
> The black wire always goes on the 4th/5th pin like this.
>
> o o o o o (sometimes the 5th pin isnt on the top row)
> R W G B
> o o o o o (the 5th pin is also never used, and left blank).
> R W G B
>
> Thats all you have to do. XP will read it as a removable disk. No drivers
> needed. Unless you want icons for the slots, in which case, you'll have to
> install the icons from the manufacturer's cd.
>
> "Gordon Scott" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Go Tyler wrote:
>>>
>>> I just bought this front panel usb thing for my comp:
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998813
>>>
>>> It came with a cable that looks like this:
>>> http://tinypic.com/ilwolw.jpg
>>>
>>> It is hard to see in the pic, but it goes from the card reader to the
>>> motherboard somewhere. It has just 4 holes and it says VCC, D-, D+, and
>>> GND.
>>> The instructions say to connect it to "the pin header of the
>>> motherboard."
>>>
>>> Does the MOBO specifically have to support a card reader? I can't see
>>> where
>>> mine does, although I see all kinds of headers that seem to go with this
>>> cable. Here is my MOBO:
>>>
>>> http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm

>>
>> did you load the drivers for the card reader?
>> btw the newegg link doesnt seem to work.

>
>



 
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Bald Guy
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      1st Jan 2006
Well, if I plug my usb webcam into the front panel usb, it works fine. It is
my thumbdrive that will not work when I plug it into the front panel usb.
When I plug my thumbdrive in, I get something saying the drive has not been
formatted, do you want to format it now. Of course, when I plug the
thumbdrive up to the rear usb port, it works fine.


"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Just as long as the mobo has USB 2 headers
> and the reader is USB 2, it'll work.
>
> All you have to do is make sure you connect the wires
> to the right pins from the reader to the mobo header.
>
> Usually, internal card reader wires go from left to right.
>
> ie: They're coloured red,white,green,black black (only one of the black
> wires are used).
>
> The black wire always goes on the 4th/5th pin like this.
>
> o o o o o (sometimes the 5th pin isnt on the top row)
> R W G B
> o o o o o (the 5th pin is also never used, and left blank).
> R W G B
>
> Thats all you have to do. XP will read it as a removable disk. No drivers
> needed. Unless you want icons for the slots, in which case, you'll have to
> install the icons from the manufacturer's cd.
>
> "Gordon Scott" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Go Tyler wrote:
>>>
>>> I just bought this front panel usb thing for my comp:
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998813
>>>
>>> It came with a cable that looks like this:
>>> http://tinypic.com/ilwolw.jpg
>>>
>>> It is hard to see in the pic, but it goes from the card reader to the
>>> motherboard somewhere. It has just 4 holes and it says VCC, D-, D+, and
>>> GND.
>>> The instructions say to connect it to "the pin header of the
>>> motherboard."
>>>
>>> Does the MOBO specifically have to support a card reader? I can't see
>>> where
>>> mine does, although I see all kinds of headers that seem to go with this
>>> cable. Here is my MOBO:
>>>
>>> http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm

>>
>> did you load the drivers for the card reader?
>> btw the newegg link doesnt seem to work.

>
>



 
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Paul
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      1st Jan 2006
Whats the mobo Bald Guy?

Does the mobo have a firewire mobo header?

And have you connected the reader as
in my previous post? red, white, green black on both
USB header rows, on the mobo?

And whats the PSU in the case? 300? 400W?? or more?






"Bald Guy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have this usb card reader, which is usb plugged into a Syba pci card that
>has two usb headers on it:
> http://tinyurl.com/8scxj
>
> I have a front panel audio USB panel connected to my USB mobo headers. The
> panel looks like this:
> http://tinyurl.com/a9pnx
>
> The front panel audio and its usb ports worked fine before I put in the
> card reader. Now when I plug something into the front panel USB ports the
> computer freezes until I get a pop up saying the disk needs to be
> formatted. If I unplug the card reader, the USB front panel starts working
> again. Obviously XP is getting confused, but I sure would like to know how
> to fix it so that I can use both devices.
>
>
>
>
> "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:dp809m$a8e$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Just as long as the mobo has USB 2 headers
>> and the reader is USB 2, it'll work.
>>
>> All you have to do is make sure you connect the wires
>> to the right pins from the reader to the mobo header.
>>
>> Usually, internal card reader wires go from left to right.
>>
>> ie: They're coloured red,white,green,black black (only one of the black
>> wires are used).
>>
>> The black wire always goes on the 4th/5th pin like this.
>>
>> o o o o o (sometimes the 5th pin isnt on the top row)
>> R W G B
>> o o o o o (the 5th pin is also never used, and left blank).
>> R W G B
>>
>> Thats all you have to do. XP will read it as a removable disk. No drivers
>> needed. Unless you want icons for the slots, in which case, you'll have
>> to install the icons from the manufacturer's cd.
>>
>> "Gordon Scott" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Go Tyler wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just bought this front panel usb thing for my comp:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998813
>>>>
>>>> It came with a cable that looks like this:
>>>> http://tinypic.com/ilwolw.jpg
>>>>
>>>> It is hard to see in the pic, but it goes from the card reader to the
>>>> motherboard somewhere. It has just 4 holes and it says VCC, D-, D+, and
>>>> GND.
>>>> The instructions say to connect it to "the pin header of the
>>>> motherboard."
>>>>
>>>> Does the MOBO specifically have to support a card reader? I can't see
>>>> where
>>>> mine does, although I see all kinds of headers that seem to go with
>>>> this
>>>> cable. Here is my MOBO:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm
>>>
>>> did you load the drivers for the card reader?
>>> btw the newegg link doesnt seem to work.

>>
>>

>
>



 
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