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FireBrick
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      17th Mar 2006
I purchased a used computer that I was assured had a legal version of WinXP
pro.
I soon found that after I'd loaded my programs to it, that I could not
process updates as I kept getting a message that it would not install the
updates.

Now I do have a legal paid for version. It was on the computer that died and
was replaced with this used computer.

ALL MY SOFTWARE IS PAID FOR AND REGISTERABLE.

So basically my question is....how would I go about running this paid for
version to correct/override the apparently not registerable version.

I should have checked before installing all my programs and adjusting my
settings and I really don't want to go through all that process again.

Can I just run my paid for version that was previously installed and
registered on a now dead computer????

please and thank you.



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      17th Mar 2006
FireBrick wrote:
> I purchased a used computer that I was assured had a legal version of WinXP
> pro.
> I soon found that after I'd loaded my programs to it, that I could not
> process updates as I kept getting a message that it would not install the
> updates.
>
> Now I do have a legal paid for version. It was on the computer that died and
> was replaced with this used computer.
>
> ALL MY SOFTWARE IS PAID FOR AND REGISTERABLE.
>
> So basically my question is....how would I go about running this paid for
> version to correct/override the apparently not registerable version.
>
> I should have checked before installing all my programs and adjusting my
> settings and I really don't want to go through all that process again.
>
> Can I just run my paid for version that was previously installed and
> registered on a now dead computer????
>
> please and thank you.
>
>
>


Assuming that the version on the machine is the same version as the new
one, just do a repair installation and all your programs, settings, etc.
should remain intact.

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Bruce Chambers
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      17th Mar 2006
FireBrick wrote:
> I purchased a used computer that I was assured had a legal version of WinXP
> pro.
> I soon found that after I'd loaded my programs to it, that I could not
> process updates as I kept getting a message that it would not install the
> updates.
>
> Now I do have a legal paid for version. It was on the computer that died and
> was replaced with this used computer.
>
> ALL MY SOFTWARE IS PAID FOR AND REGISTERABLE.
>
> So basically my question is....how would I go about running this paid for
> version to correct/override the apparently not registerable version.
>
> I should have checked before installing all my programs and adjusting my
> settings and I really don't want to go through all that process again.
>
> Can I just run my paid for version that was previously installed and
> registered on a now dead computer????
>
> please and thank you.
>
>
>



With second-hand computers, especially if acquired from strangers
but perhaps even if acquired from a family member, your wisest course
of action would probably be to format the hard drives and start fresh.
You don't want to get in trouble because the original owner may have
filled the hard drive with kiddie porn, or have problems because the
original owner downloaded/installed viruses or other malware.

If you are trying to install a WinXP Service Pack and getting the
following:

The Product Key Used to Install Windows Is Invalid
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q326904

You need to purchase and a _legitimate_ retail or OEM full license
of WinXP Pro to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation,
using the new CDs and Product Keys.

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341

You should also report whomever sold you this license to your local
law enforcement agencies; you've been defrauded.


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John Barnett MVP
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      17th Mar 2006
You should be able to do a repair install. For details of a repair install
visit my website http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org click the Win XP Faq
button and take a look at question 55

It's amazing how easy it is to say, 'sure, of course the software is legal'
simply to get a sale. It isn't until you get to the genuine advantage setup
on the windows update site that you find, to your horror, that all is not as
it seems.

Another interesting sideline is thehere you can purchase OEM copies of
Windows XP. OEM copies should only be supplied with a newly built PC and
should come from the PC manufacturer. If you go out and buy an OEM copy of
Windows XP it will install okay and it will activate okay. The only problem
is when you try changing any hardware. It is then that the block comes down
and, after calling microsoft activation, you politely get told 'sorry your
copy can't be activated because it is an OEM copy' As the saying goes
'caveat emptor' (Buyer Beware!) If you are going to buy software but retail
versions 'not' OEM

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of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post..



"FireBrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I purchased a used computer that I was assured had a legal version of WinXP
>pro.
> I soon found that after I'd loaded my programs to it, that I could not
> process updates as I kept getting a message that it would not install the
> updates.
>
> Now I do have a legal paid for version. It was on the computer that died
> and was replaced with this used computer.
>
> ALL MY SOFTWARE IS PAID FOR AND REGISTERABLE.
>
> So basically my question is....how would I go about running this paid for
> version to correct/override the apparently not registerable version.
>
> I should have checked before installing all my programs and adjusting my
> settings and I really don't want to go through all that process again.
>
> Can I just run my paid for version that was previously installed and
> registered on a now dead computer????
>
> please and thank you.
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Too many freaks, not enough circuses.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Bill H. in Chicagoland
> webcams at http://24.14.49.4:8080
> weather at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w9ol/WX/HH.htm
>
>



 
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      17th Mar 2006
John Barnett MVP wrote:

If you go out and buy an OEM copy of
> Windows XP it will install okay and it will activate okay. The only problem
> is when you try changing any hardware. It is then that the block comes down
> and, after calling microsoft activation, you politely get told 'sorry your
> copy can't be activated because it is an OEM copy' As the saying goes
> 'caveat emptor' (Buyer Beware!) If you are going to buy software but retail
> versions 'not' OEM


False. This is only true of DEll/HP type OEMs. Generic OEMs will
activate no problem even if you, gasp!, change the motherboard. In
Spain, where I live, you cannot buy a full retail version anywhere and
all the retail computer stores only carry generic OEMs, so you were saying?

You're just another MVP like Carey Fritch who tries to scare newbies
into buying retail. Either that or you're merely ill informed.

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      17th Mar 2006
Totally Wrong! I have just, only yesterday, been dealing with Microsoft
regarding such an issue of them (Microsoft) not being able to activate a OEM
copy for a user that contacted me. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but my
comments stand and i stand with them.

As for Carey, while i respect her views, i am not in the scaremongering
market. I, and every other MVP, including Carey, have no reason to make
Microsoft out as the 'good guy'. We are totally independant and Microsoft
have no influence over our views. If Microsoft attempted to influence my
views i, again like most MVPs, would gladly relinquish the MVP title.


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of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post..



"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
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> John Barnett MVP wrote:
>
> If you go out and buy an OEM copy of
>> Windows XP it will install okay and it will activate okay. The only
>> problem is when you try changing any hardware. It is then that the block
>> comes down and, after calling microsoft activation, you politely get told
>> 'sorry your copy can't be activated because it is an OEM copy' As the
>> saying goes 'caveat emptor' (Buyer Beware!) If you are going to buy
>> software but retail versions 'not' OEM

>
> False. This is only true of DEll/HP type OEMs. Generic OEMs will activate
> no problem even if you, gasp!, change the motherboard. In Spain, where I
> live, you cannot buy a full retail version anywhere and all the retail
> computer stores only carry generic OEMs, so you were saying?
>
> You're just another MVP like Carey Fritch who tries to scare newbies into
> buying retail. Either that or you're merely ill informed.
>
> Alias
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Tom [Pepper] Willett
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      17th Mar 2006
Carey should be please to know you have changed *his* gender ;-)

Tom
> As for Carey, while i respect her views, i am not in the scaremongering
> market. I, and every other MVP, including Carey, have no reason to make
> Microsoft out as the 'good guy'. We are totally independant and Microsoft
> have no influence over our views. If Microsoft attempted to influence my
> views i, again like most MVPs, would gladly relinquish the MVP title.
>
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
> either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
> the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> post..
>
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> John Barnett MVP wrote:
>>
>> If you go out and buy an OEM copy of
>>> Windows XP it will install okay and it will activate okay. The only
>>> problem is when you try changing any hardware. It is then that the block
>>> comes down and, after calling microsoft activation, you politely get
>>> told 'sorry your copy can't be activated because it is an OEM copy' As
>>> the saying goes 'caveat emptor' (Buyer Beware!) If you are going to buy
>>> software but retail versions 'not' OEM

>>
>> False. This is only true of DEll/HP type OEMs. Generic OEMs will activate
>> no problem even if you, gasp!, change the motherboard. In Spain, where I
>> live, you cannot buy a full retail version anywhere and all the retail
>> computer stores only carry generic OEMs, so you were saying?
>>
>> You're just another MVP like Carey Fritch who tries to scare newbies into
>> buying retail. Either that or you're merely ill informed.
>>
>> Alias
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>> me.
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>
>



 
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      17th Mar 2006
John Barnett MVP wrote:
> Totally Wrong! I have just, only yesterday, been dealing with Microsoft
> regarding such an issue of them (Microsoft) not being able to activate a OEM
> copy for a user that contacted me. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but my
> comments stand and i stand with them.


What kind of OEM, generic or branded? And why did it need activating?
Can you provide some proof of this besides hear say?

>
> As for Carey, while i respect her views, i am not in the scaremongering
> market. I, and every other MVP, including Carey, have no reason to make
> Microsoft out as the 'good guy'. We are totally independant and Microsoft
> have no influence over our views. If Microsoft attempted to influence my
> views i, again like most MVPs, would gladly relinquish the MVP title.
>
>


"Her" views?

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      18th Mar 2006
John Barnett MVP wrote:
> Totally Wrong! I have just, only yesterday, been dealing with Microsoft
> regarding such an issue of them (Microsoft) not being able to activate a OEM
> copy for a user that contacted me. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but my
> comments stand and i stand with them.


I read this twice and, for the life of me, I can't find where it says
that generic OEMs can't be reactivated:

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_faq.mspx

Do you have a more recent, credible source?

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      18th Mar 2006
If you are getting the following error message when attempting to update:

Error Message: The Product Key Used to Install Windows Is Invalid
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

You'll have to purchase a new "Full Version" of Windows XP Professional
and perform a "Repair Install" using the new Windows XP Pro CD and Product Key
that comes with it. (You cannot simply change the Product Key)

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

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"FireBrick" wrote:

> I purchased a used computer that I was assured had a legal version of WinXP
> pro.
> I soon found that after I'd loaded my programs to it, that I could not
> process updates as I kept getting a message that it would not install the
> updates.
>
> Now I do have a legal paid for version. It was on the computer that died and
> was replaced with this used computer.
>
> ALL MY SOFTWARE IS PAID FOR AND REGISTERABLE.
>
> So basically my question is....how would I go about running this paid for
> version to correct/override the apparently not registerable version.
>
> I should have checked before installing all my programs and adjusting my
> settings and I really don't want to go through all that process again.
>
> Can I just run my paid for version that was previously installed and
> registered on a now dead computer????
>
> please and thank you.
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Too many freaks, not enough circuses.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Bill H. in Chicagoland
> webcams at http://24.14.49.4:8080
> weather at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w9ol/WX/HH.htm
>
>
>

 
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