On Wed, 18 May 2011 02:38:57 -0400, Paul <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>mm wrote:
>> Alas, one more question: Can an internal CD/DVD burner work via a USB
>> port, when using an internal drive held in a Rosewill caddy?
>>
>> I googled and burners designed to be external are used all the time.
>>
>> So there are 3 possibilities for me.
>>
>> 1) Both burners I've tried are bad.
>>
>> 2) Using the Rosewill SATA/IDE/CD/DVD USB adapter is the problem.
>>
>> 3) Or it's because my mobo is so old. It's so old, it came only with
>> v1.1 USB, though I have put in a version 2 USB card, and used both
>> kinds of port.
>>
>>
>> I have no trouble taking an internal-style CD drive and connecting it
>> via a Rosewill caddy to either speed USB port and reading a USB.
>>
>> But when I try to burn an image to an empty CD, neither Nero or ImgBrn
>> even finds the USB CD Burner, not with v1.1 or v2 USB, not with either
>> of the drives. They only list the CD burner that is mounted
>> internally.
>>
>> Is this normal?
>>
>> I feel guilty about asking so many questions lately, so all you have
>> to do is tell me if this should work or not.
>>
>> Maybe the drive is bad. I've never used it to burn anything.
>> The previous drive I tried weeks ago and it had never been used to
>> burn anything, and the other I just bought (CD/DVD burner) and have
>> never burned anything with it either (though it will read a CD).
>>
>> Thanks again.
>
>I have run a CD/DVD drive in a USB enclosure, at USB 1.1 speeds.
>It was working, but the burner software I was using at the
>time, was warning me it would take hours to finish burning the
>DVD. I was doing a dual sided 9GB DVD at the time (7GB movie).
>It turned out, somehow the "Enhanced" entry in Device Manager
>had gone missing. Now, under those conditions, the optical drive
>was using "Burnproof", and was operating in start-stop mode.
>The flashing of the LED showed the drive could not work continuously,
>due to the lack of sufficient cable data rate. But it would
>have eventually finished the burn, if I'd let it.
>
>Yes, optical drives in USB enclosures work. Reading or writing.
>
>If you use old enough software, perhaps Nero 5 or so, it doesn't
>know what a USB optical drive is. But anything newer than that
Nero's so weird, I can't find the About screen, but I did find the
info command and it found the USB drive, which it correctly identified
as Lite-on LTN486S 48X Max USB Device, autorun on**. But it also
lists the internal DVD reader/no burner and it doesn't have either of
them in the dropdown list of possible burners.
I think this is was an OEM CD. The Nero files are from 2003 and 2004,
and a pdf file is entitled Nero 6!
Plus imgburn is free and only about 6 months old. Since you tell me
this should work, I guess I will dl the new version that it mentions
every time I start my current version.
**BTW, I just bought this drive new a month ago but tonight I noticed
it was made in December of 2003. So it's New Old Stock. But that's
okay, right? and I guess that's why it was only 25 dollars. It's a
CD/DVD burner. I don't care how fast it is. I rarely burn anything,
and I'm happy to do other things while it runs, if necessary. And
it's LightScribe, which I thought would be fun to have.
>should be OK. Back when I had a copy of Nero 5, I think I had to
>upgrade to the next version to get burning on an external to work
>(that was on a new computer).
>
>When you connect the optical drive, you should be seeing some
>response from Device Manager. Are any new entries showing up ?
It's there too, but I haven't seen anything that calls it a burner.
That would account for why it's not on the list. But how can it be
LightScribe if it's not a burner?
Well.... This would account for that. Googling the model I see that
the specs make no mention of it being a burner, nor of LightScribe.
They either didn't send me what I ordered or the webpage mislabeled
what I then ordered. Or conceivably I made a mistake. Dang. It's
been a couple months, and it will take me days to find the paper work.
Oh, well. Maybe when I find the vendor name, they'll have everything
on line for me, and maybe they'll believe me or they'll know that they
sent the wrong thing, that I meant to order something else. Would
anyone still spend 25 dollar for something that only reads?
It's very rare that a store has made a mistake when selling me
something, or even second-hand like at a hamfest, almost everything
has worked fine. Or that I have bought the wrong thing. So if I do
lose money this time, it's okay.
However, for my friend, the retiring public school psychologist, who
has to back up her psych records in the next 2 weeks, or maybe 10 days
now, it doesn't have to burn DVDs, only CDs, so let me go find the one
that didn't work the last time (but which had a twin, bought at the
same hamfest, which does work.) Plus I have a CD burner that is only
slightly installed in the Dell 4700 I'm working on. Something out of
these 3 should work!!
Well, after all this the HP CD-writer 9100 seems to work fine with
Nero. Its fastest speed is 8X but I just said I didn't care. I have
two of them, so maybe it's the other one that didn't work last time,
or maybe I made a mistake and they both do. 6.5 minutes to write it
-- that's fine --, though it didn't verify it like imgburn does. I
guess that's cause it's oem.
Imgburn finds the drive too.
I'll save what follows for when I actually buy the right thing!
Thanks again!
>If you look at those entries, do they properly represent the
>device ? Also, the setupapi.log file, may contain one or more
>entries at the end of the file, which signify the response to
>the newly detected hardware.
>
>An alternative is to use UVCView to view the configuration data.
>That is "closer to the hardware", and in this case, all you're
>looking for is that the hardware is visible. There probably
>isn't that much of interest in the details. Just that a new
>device shows up. It's possible to get a new entry in UVCView,
>but not in Device Manager. This posting has details in the
>second half, on UVCView. I would not bother reading this,
>unless the UpperFilter fix at the end of this post isn't helping.
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...9?dmode=source
>
>Occasionally, a controller chip inside a USB enclosure will
>"forget who it is". Some Cypress chip was doing that. But
>if you connected a hard drive instead of an optical drive,
>it would still be broken in the same way. Have you tested
>the enclosure with a hard drive, and did that work ? I've tested
>my enclosure with both hard drive and optical drive, so it
>does many different jobs for me. It's a wonder the screws
>aren't worn out.
>
>You should check, whether you're using any "Virtual CD" software.
>Sometimes, a software that accepts an ISO9660 file and mounts
>it as a file system, can interfere with burning software. The
>burner software tries to burn to the virtual drive, and gets
>confused.
>
>The other alternative, is the UpperFilter/Lowerfilter problem.
>Some programs that include their own burner software,
>add their own UpperFilter (like iTunes adds the GearSoftware
>burner package). There is a Fixit for that. No guarantees
>on what program(s) will be working 100% afterwards. Removing
>an UpperFilter, obviously has to affect something.
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982116
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/mats/cd...problems/en-us
>
> Paul
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