hi i got windows xp pro not long a go an installed it on my main pc but i
have another pc in my bed room that dosen`t have xp am i aloud to have it on
both pc`s and get the updates an such or can u only run it on one ??? ( can
u install the same copy of xp on all the pc`s u own??)

"stumpy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> hi i got windows xp pro not long a go an installed it on my main pc but i
> have another pc in my bed room that dosen`t have xp am i aloud to have it
> on
> both pc`s and get the updates an such or can u only run it on one ??? (
> can
> u install the same copy of xp on all the pc`s u own??)


Read the EULA and then ask the question again.....

"Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "stumpy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:10042259-2381-4242-94E7-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> hi i got windows xp pro not long a go an installed it on my main pc but i
>> have another pc in my bed room that dosen`t have xp am i aloud to have it
>> on
>> both pc`s and get the updates an such or can u only run it on one ???
>> ( can
>> u install the same copy of xp on all the pc`s u own??)
>
>
> Read the EULA and then ask the question again.....

On an XP machine or installation CD/DVD, what file contains the EULA?

-Paul Randall

C:\Windows\System32\eula.txt


Gord

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:59:35 -0600, "Paul Randall" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>
>"Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "stumpy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:10042259-2381-4242-94E7-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> hi i got windows xp pro not long a go an installed it on my main pc but i
>>> have another pc in my bed room that dosen`t have xp am i aloud to have it
>>> on
>>> both pc`s and get the updates an such or can u only run it on one ???
>>> ( can
>>> u install the same copy of xp on all the pc`s u own??)
>>
>>
>> Read the EULA and then ask the question again.....
>
>On an XP machine or installation CD/DVD, what file contains the EULA?
>
>-Paul Randall
>

stumpy <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>hi i got windows xp pro not long a go an installed it on my main pc but i
>have another pc in my bed room that dosen`t have xp am i aloud to have it on
>both pc`s and get the updates an such or can u only run it on one ??? ( can
>u install the same copy of xp on all the pc`s u own??)

One PC for one OS copy.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)
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"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca> wrote in message
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> C:\Windows\System32\eula.txt

> Gord
>
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:59:35 -0600, "Paul Randall" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> Read the EULA and then ask the question again.....
>>
>>On an XP machine or installation CD/DVD, what file contains the EULA?
>>
>>-Paul Randall
>>
Thanks. The eula file is on my system, but for some reason, when I searched
for files containing eula or license in the file name, it only showed those
containing license.

Do you know of any web site that discusses the meaning and implications of
each sentence or paragraph in Microsoft's various OS eulas? For example:

1) Eula says:
You may permit
a maximum of ten (10) ("Connection Maximum") computers or
other electronic devices (each a "Device") to connect to the
COMPUTER to utilize one or more of the following services of
the SOFTWARE: File services, Print services, Internet
Information services, and remote access (including connection
sharing and telephony services). The ten (10) Connection
Maximum includes any indirect connections made through
"multiplexing" or other software or hardware which pools or
aggregates connections.

When I open a web page that displays info from 15 different domains, and it
is all being cached in the temporary internet files folder, have I used 15
File services "devices"? Does the software have a way for me to find out
how many "devices" are connected? I'm almost certain that the internet has
more than 10 devices that might use Print services. Does this mean I can't
connect to the internet??? What if I need to print at 20 different offices
around the country and each has a printer connected to the net? It is easy
enough to install a 20 printers using their IP addresses. If I set up a
method to only install a printer when I want to use that particular printer,
and uninstall it as soon as the print job is complete, does that limit my
print services device count to 1? If I know I am at the 10-device limit,
and accidently plug a thumbdrive into a USB port, am I in violation? If I
plug a multi- memory card reader into a USB port, have I used one "Device"
for each card slot?

Some things are obvious, and should be avoided, such as installing the
software on two separate computers.

Its easy to see why some people just ignore the EULA alltogether. It would
cost 100 times the software's cost to figure out what the EULA actually
means over its lifetime as the computer is used by various members of a
family and their friends, with various connections and personal devices.

-Paul Randall

stumpy wrote:
> hi i got windows xp pro not long a go an installed it on my main pc but i
> have another pc in my bed room that dosen`t have xp am i aloud to have it on
> both pc`s and get the updates an such or can u only run it on one ??? ( can
> u install the same copy of xp on all the pc`s u own??)


You need to purchase a separate WinXP license for each computer on
which you install it. (As long as you have multiple identical licenses,
it doesn't matter if you use the same CD for the installations, as long
as you use a different license each time.)

Just as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating
systems, it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S.
copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not
technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which it
is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine
final applicability in your locale.) The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft mechanism,
Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more difficult)
multiple installations using a single license.

One can buy additional licenses, assuming one already has a retail
license. Naturally, Microsoft cannot sell additional OEM licenses. Be
aware, however, that you'll probably pay more this way than you would if
you were to buy a second copy of WinXP from a discount retailer;
Microsoft will only offer you a 15% discount off their MSRP.

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...buy/addlic.asp

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...buy/addlic.asp


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"Bruce Chambers" <(E-Mail Removed)3t> wrote in message
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> Just as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
> it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S. copyright
> law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not technically)
> to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which it is installed.

But what about 'fair use'?
.. "Fair use" is the catch-all term for the rights that a buyer of a
copyrighted work has to make copies for his or her own personal use. For
example, it's well established under the U.S. Copyright Act (and the laws of
several other countries) that someone who buys a music recording has a right
to make a copy to play in his car or elsewhere. Copying and "time-shifting"
TV programs is another well-established example of fair use that is
perfectly legal.
See http://www.windowssecrets.com/comp/070308#intro3

For non OS eulas, Microsoft often allows two installations, such as
installing Microsoft Streets & Trips on both a desktop and laptop, so you
have it with you when and where you need it, as long as you are 'fairly
using', ie, not using it in both places at once. Similar 'fair use' could
apply to the OS. Shut down one computer before you boot up the other.

> (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine final
> applicability in your locale.)
Yes, this is the only thing you can do to be sure you are not violating the
applicable laws or Microsoft's rights. Microsoft's eula does little to tell
you what parts of it are superceded by laws that may apply to your
situation. You might even consider the OS software to be cheap because you
can buy a package for each computer cheaper than paying a attorney who might
find that you only need to buy one package for all the computers in your
situation.

-Paul Randall

Paul Randall wrote:
>
>
> But what about 'fair use'?


"Fair Use" is, as regarding copyright law, a very narrowly defined term
that does not apply to either this situation. The term "fair use" is
most often deliberately misused by those who oppose protecting
intellectual property as a "red herring" in any argument concerning
copyright laws and the EULA, because it sounds like something everyone
should favor.

"Fair Use," as defined by copyright law, doesn't apply in any of the
above discussion. (It isn't even relevant, in this particular discussion.)


----------------------------------------------------------------------
TITLE 17 > CHAPTER 1 > § 107

§ 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use

Release date: 2004-04-30

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of
a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or
phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for
purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including
multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an
infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work
in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall
include—
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is
of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the
copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the
copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of
fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above
factors.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

For more information:

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyrigh...er9/index.html





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"Bruce Chambers" <(E-Mail Removed)3t> wrote in message
news:O6Hy1e$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Paul Randall wrote:
>>
>>
>> But what about 'fair use'?
>
>
> "Fair Use" is, as regarding copyright law, a very narrowly defined term
> that does not apply to either this situation. The term "fair use" is most
> often deliberately misused by those who oppose protecting intellectual
> property as a "red herring" in any argument concerning copyright laws and
> the EULA, because it sounds like something everyone should favor.
>
> "Fair Use," as defined by copyright law, doesn't apply in any of the above
> discussion. (It isn't even relevant, in this particular discussion.)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> TITLE 17 > CHAPTER 1 > § 107
>
> § 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
>
> Release date: 2004-04-30
>
> Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a
> copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or
> phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes
> such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple
> copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an
> infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work
> in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall
> include—
> (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of
> a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
> (2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
> (3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the
> copyrighted work as a whole; and
> (4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the
> copyrighted work.
> The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair
> use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> For more information:
>
> http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyrigh...er9/index.html

Thanks for that link. I found it very informative, expecially the court
case summaries.

-Paul Randall