Greets All,

I've grown too tired of failing to discover the answer to my question by
navigating the new 'discoverable' interface, so I've decided to pose the
question here: In the new Office 2007 products, is there a way to choose the
deprecated UI? I much prefer the paradigm I've been accustomed to for more
than a decade over dramatically diminished productivity.

Best Regards,
Steven

Nope, there's no "deprecated" option (and Microsoft has said emphatically
many times that there never will be!)

On the other hand, the ribbon is all controlled by XML. I do know that third
party vendors are producing replacement ribbons that resemble the old menu
interface for some other products such as Word: not sure if anyone's doing
it for Access.

--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
http://I.Am/DougSteele
(no e-mails, please!)


"Oreslag" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Greets All,
>
> I've grown too tired of failing to discover the answer to my question by
> navigating the new 'discoverable' interface, so I've decided to pose the
> question here: In the new Office 2007 products, is there a way to choose
> the
> deprecated UI? I much prefer the paradigm I've been accustomed to for more
> than a decade over dramatically diminished productivity.
>
> Best Regards,
> Steven
>
>

Unfortunately, no! I know the feeling, the only way I have found is to ask
how to find something on this forum.

I have 2002, 2003, and 2007 on my home computer, and after 7 months still
have problems finding stuff on the ribbon.

----
Dale



"Oreslag" wrote:

> Greets All,
>
> I've grown too tired of failing to discover the answer to my question by
> navigating the new 'discoverable' interface, so I've decided to pose the
> question here: In the new Office 2007 products, is there a way to choose the
> deprecated UI? I much prefer the paradigm I've been accustomed to for more
> than a decade over dramatically diminished productivity.
>
> Best Regards,
> Steven
>
>

I went fairly quickly from hating the new interface to at least putting it
at close to a tie with the old interface.

The navigation pane I just always show by object type and never use any
other options on that one.

It's the bugs Microsoft sometimes leave in a product that get me.

Just my opinion,
Mark

"Oreslag" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Greets All,
>
> I've grown too tired of failing to discover the answer to my question by
> navigating the new 'discoverable' interface, so I've decided to pose the
> question here: In the new Office 2007 products, is there a way to choose
> the
> deprecated UI? I much prefer the paradigm I've been accustomed to for more
> than a decade over dramatically diminished productivity.
>
> Best Regards,
> Steven
>
>

The short answer is no. However, there are add-ins, from 3rd party vendors
(20$ or so - a few links have been provided below but note I have never used
any of them, just passing along info) that replace the typical ribbon with
one that resembles the 'old' menus.

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuaccess
http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/I...ccess_2007.htm
http://www.download3k.com/Business-F...-Software.html

I can't agree more regarding the ribbons. It has drastically cut my
productivity. As I was once told, the ribbon was designed with the end-user
in mind and for that it was well conceived. However, from a developer's
standpoint, it sucks the bag to put it bluntly. Now you get a single tab
which has 10-20 command where as you once could house 6-7 toolbars houses the
vast majority of all the commands! That said, I may be worth your while to
create your own ribbon tab with the various controls you need on a regular
basis rather than continuously running back and forth between the predefined
tab. Google the subject (custom access ribbon) to find out how and note that
ribbon customization for access is different from all other office programs?!
--
Hope this helps,

Daniel Pineault
http://www.cardaconsultants.com/
For Access Tips and Examples: http://www.devhut.net
Please rate this post using the vote buttons if it was helpful.



"Oreslag" wrote:

> Greets All,
>
> I've grown too tired of failing to discover the answer to my question by
> navigating the new 'discoverable' interface, so I've decided to pose the
> question here: In the new Office 2007 products, is there a way to choose the
> deprecated UI? I much prefer the paradigm I've been accustomed to for more
> than a decade over dramatically diminished productivity.
>
> Best Regards,
> Steven
>
>

"Oreslag" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:F37F2D4C-B73C-479E-A724-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Greets All,
>
> I've grown too tired of failing to discover the answer to my question by
> navigating the new 'discoverable' interface, so I've decided to pose the
> question here: In the new Office 2007 products, is there a way to choose
> the
> deprecated UI? I much prefer the paradigm I've been accustomed to for more
> than a decade over dramatically diminished productivity.

Many feel your pain. I can offer a bit of help though. Microsoft has a file
named:

ac2003_2007CmdRef.EXE

Use Bing to search for it. It will allow you to readily find everything in
the ribbon if you are familiar with Access 2003 menus.
--
Arvin Meyer, MCP, MVP
http://www.datastrat.com
http://www.mvps.org/access
http://www.accessmvp.com

"Oreslag" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

> I've grown too tired of failing to discover the answer
> to my question by navigating the new 'discoverable'
> interface, so I've decided to pose the question here:
> In the new Office 2007 products, is there a way to
> choose the deprecated UI? I much prefer the paradigm
> I've been accustomed to for more than a decade over
> dramatically diminished productivity.

No. It was deemed to be financially unfeasible to maintain two interfaces
and allow users to choose the one they thought was friendliest. Of course,
third parties have, with varying degrees of success, created emulations of
the menu interface whose price doesn't indicate that it would have been
financially unfeasible.

Larry

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<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> That said, I may be worth your while to
> create your own ribbon tab with the various controls you need on a
> regular basis rather than continuously running back and forth
> between the predefined tab.

I was wondering if it might make sense to use A2003 to create custom
toolbar replacements for all the default Access toolbars, and then
run A2007 in the mode that will display legacy toolbars. You'd have
to import the toolbars into each database, unfortunately, and it
wouldn't swap menus by default based on context. But for long-term
projects, I wonder if it might be less insane-making.

FWIW, I haven't yet done anything but play around with A2007, and
I'm still reserving judgment. Certain things I like about it, but I
sure do have a hard time finding anything on the ribbon -- it seems
completely disorganized to me, but that may be simply because I'm
trying to impose a different organizational scheme on it.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

"Arvin Meyer [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> "Oreslag" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:F37F2D4C-B73C-479E-A724-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Greets All,
>>
>> I've grown too tired of failing to discover the answer to my
>> question by navigating the new 'discoverable' interface, so I've
>> decided to pose the question here: In the new Office 2007
>> products, is there a way to choose the
>> deprecated UI? I much prefer the paradigm I've been accustomed to
>> for more than a decade over dramatically diminished productivity.
>
> Many feel your pain. I can offer a bit of help though. Microsoft
> has a file named:
>
> ac2003_2007CmdRef.EXE
>
> Use Bing to search for it.

Why Bing? Pasting it into Google returns the download link as the
first match.

> It will allow you to readily find everything in
> the ribbon if you are familiar with Access 2003 menus.

It's here:

http://tinyurl.com/5lxv8f =>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...d=B9574C72-657
F-438C-9DE9-F8F70DD2D40D&displaylang=en

It looks helpful, though not as much so as I had hoped.

I also think it's fascinating that MS chose to implement this tool
in Flash instead of its own Silverlight.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

Interesting work-around, but now that 2010 is out it will only be temporary
as I believe (do not quote me on this) that legacy toolbars will no longer be
supported at all anymore. So perhaps a solution for 2007, but that's it.
One way or another, we (all of us) have to adapt. It is part of the game.

Also, we haven't even discussed the changes they made to the object browser!
I guess a discussion for another day... :-)

Thank you for the idea, it is worth looking at further.
--
Hope this helps,

Daniel Pineault
http://www.cardaconsultants.com/
For Access Tips and Examples: http://www.devhut.net
Please rate this post using the vote buttons if it was helpful.



"David W. Fenton" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?RGFuaWVsIFBpbmVhdWx0?=
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:5633E3AA-0679-4E0B-A6A4-(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > That said, I may be worth your while to
> > create your own ribbon tab with the various controls you need on a
> > regular basis rather than continuously running back and forth
> > between the predefined tab.
>
> I was wondering if it might make sense to use A2003 to create custom
> toolbar replacements for all the default Access toolbars, and then
> run A2007 in the mode that will display legacy toolbars. You'd have
> to import the toolbars into each database, unfortunately, and it
> wouldn't swap menus by default based on context. But for long-term
> projects, I wonder if it might be less insane-making.
>
> FWIW, I haven't yet done anything but play around with A2007, and
> I'm still reserving judgment. Certain things I like about it, but I
> sure do have a hard time finding anything on the ribbon -- it seems
> completely disorganized to me, but that may be simply because I'm
> trying to impose a different organizational scheme on it.
>
> --
> David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
> usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
> .
>