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>> > "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> > news:1CEC1495-A102-4B34-93D8-(E-Mail Removed)... >> >>I purchased a 80gig hd while I was putting togeather my current pc(Azus >> >> A7n8x-x, AMD2600333-Ebarton, 2XKingstone 512DDR DIMM, 2XSamsung 80gig >> >> hd,etc.) It's about 9mos old. I installed the hd I am using as >> >> "C"drive >> >> and all my stuff on it , originally in my old cp with windows me. It >> >> formated the 80 gig hd with 32gig and I did not know enough to notice >> >> it until >> >> later. I have #1(32) as primary and #2 as Slave. >> >> >> >> Can some one advise me to articles or help me upgrade my understanding >> >> so >> >> I can understand the basics of what is going on so that I can change >> >> out >> >> this fat32 and install the proper format sys. ? Or, if too big a >> >> question >> >> then direct me to fix my hd to go th the full 80 on #1(32)? Thank you >> >> (I hope >> >> this is understandable) > "Mercury" wrote: > >> try diskpart /extend - but supposedly not on system volumes. >> "Yves Leclerc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:(E-Mail Removed)... >> > XP will only be able to format FAT32 drives to 32GB, natively. >> > Microsoft >> > has purposely place this limit. Now, in order to expand your >> > partition, >> > you need to look at utilities like Partition Magic, since XP does not >> > allow your to expand partitions on its own. "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news  A8FAAB9-05FB-45AD-A234-(E-Mail Removed)...>I found all but the "volume" to change the fat32 to NTFS thru articles in >PC > Mag. What is the volume the are talking about-- total hd space, space of > the > proposed partition--??? > > I considered just experimenting and stick in 1as in all/100%. I would > sure > appreciate your thoughts--Chuck Chuck: First, let me see if I understand your problem, or indeed, if there's any problem at all... 1. You have two 80 GB HDs. One of them, we'll call it #1 contains the XP OS and it's the one you boot to. 2. That #1 HD has two partitions; the first partition is 32 GB and has been formatted FAT32. The second partition is what? unallocated space? Has it been partitioned/formatted? 3. Your second 80 GB HD, we'll call it #2 has been installed as a Slave to your #1 HD. Is that right? You use it for storage and/or backup purposes? Has that drive also been formatted FAT32? 4. Is the problem that you want to convert any FAT32 partitions to NTFS ones? That's easy enough, but perhaps it's unnecessary. 5. And/or is the problem that you have "unallocated space" on one of those drives that you want to utilize? 6. Are you familiar with XP's Disk Management utility? Start > right-click My Computer > Manage > Disk Management? Think you could find your way using that utility to do what you want to do? 7. Is it that you want one partition on one of your 80 GB drives so that it encompasses the entire capacity of that drive, i.e., the drive now contains two partitions and you want only a single one? Forget about using the diskpart command. Anyway, if I've misunderstood your situation and what you want to accomplish, please forgive me. If, however, you want further assistance from me, or others, please so indicate. Anna |
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Dear Anna:
You've got what I do not! Step-by-step ability to lawout logical problems. I am one of those that sees the answer but strugles with the liner parts. Yes to Q1. Q2.: #1 has one partition of 32 GB and #2 is unallocated and I donot know how to configure for storage which is how I envisioned it originally. #2 is formated Basic and NTFS. Q3.: Yes. Q4. I want to get #1 to NTFS w/o losing my info and get my 46 GB of storage back--for gp's... then clean up trash on #1 and then config to put programs on #1 and Storage on #2. Q6. Yes. I have gone as far as everything correct except entering "volume" which is what fail message says to my entry(DOS) I agree that utl seems to go where I want but have to answer "volume" Q first. Maytbe more to come but that is my road block todate. Do you know what the ref. of "volume" is and where I can go to learn about drives and there config and related uses? Thanx in advance--Chuck "Anna" wrote: > > >> > "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> > news:1CEC1495-A102-4B34-93D8-(E-Mail Removed)... > >> >>I purchased a 80gig hd while I was putting togeather my current pc(Azus > >> >> A7n8x-x, AMD2600333-Ebarton, 2XKingstone 512DDR DIMM, 2XSamsung 80gig > >> >> hd,etc.) It's about 9mos old. I installed the hd I am using as > >> >> "C"drive > >> >> and all my stuff on it , originally in my old cp with windows me. It > >> >> formated the 80 gig hd with 32gig and I did not know enough to notice > >> >> it until > >> >> later. I have #1(32) as primary and #2 as Slave. > >> >> > >> >> Can some one advise me to articles or help me upgrade my understanding > >> >> so > >> >> I can understand the basics of what is going on so that I can change > >> >> out > >> >> this fat32 and install the proper format sys. ? Or, if too big a > >> >> question > >> >> then direct me to fix my hd to go th the full 80 on #1(32)? Thank you > >> >> (I hope > >> >> this is understandable) > > > > "Mercury" wrote: > > > >> try diskpart /extend - but supposedly not on system volumes. > > > >> "Yves Leclerc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> news:(E-Mail Removed)... > >> > XP will only be able to format FAT32 drives to 32GB, natively. > >> > Microsoft > >> > has purposely place this limit. Now, in order to expand your > >> > partition, > >> > you need to look at utilities like Partition Magic, since XP does not > >> > allow your to expand partitions on its own. > > > "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news A8FAAB9-05FB-45AD-A234-(E-Mail Removed)...> >I found all but the "volume" to change the fat32 to NTFS thru articles in > >PC > > Mag. What is the volume the are talking about-- total hd space, space of > > the > > proposed partition--??? > > > > I considered just experimenting and stick in 1as in all/100%. I would > > sure > > appreciate your thoughts--Chuck > > > Chuck: > First, let me see if I understand your problem, or indeed, if there's any > problem at all... > > 1. You have two 80 GB HDs. One of them, we'll call it #1 contains the XP OS > and it's the one you boot to. > > 2. That #1 HD has two partitions; the first partition is 32 GB and has been > formatted FAT32. The second partition is what? unallocated space? Has it > been partitioned/formatted? > > 3. Your second 80 GB HD, we'll call it #2 has been installed as a Slave to > your #1 HD. Is that right? You use it for storage and/or backup purposes? > Has that drive also been formatted FAT32? > > 4. Is the problem that you want to convert any FAT32 partitions to NTFS > ones? That's easy enough, but perhaps it's unnecessary. > > 5. And/or is the problem that you have "unallocated space" on one of those > drives that you want to utilize? > > 6. Are you familiar with XP's Disk Management utility? Start > right-click > My Computer > Manage > Disk Management? Think you could find your way using > that utility to do what you want to do? > > 7. Is it that you want one partition on one of your 80 GB drives so that it > encompasses the entire capacity of that drive, i.e., the drive now contains > two partitions and you want only a single one? > > Forget about using the diskpart command. > > Anyway, if I've misunderstood your situation and what you want to > accomplish, please forgive me. If, however, you want further assistance from > me, or others, please so indicate. > Anna > > > > > > |
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Chuck:
I'll respond to your query but first of all, may I suggest that when you post a query or subsequent response, you should include *all pertinent information* from previous postings that bear on the issue involved. This is so I, and others, can easily follow the thread. A newsgroup such as this one should *not* be considered merely a "chatline" between two (or possibly more) individuals. We all can benefit from the issues raised and responses to these issues even if we're not directly involved. But we need to understand precisely what the problem is and whatever proposed solutions have been offered. And for this we need to follow the thread in some organized and meaningful fashion. It doesn't necessarily mean that you have to include *all* previous postings in the thread, just those pertinent portions that bear on the issue at hand. So I'm including in my response to you the background information on this issue... Anna Original posting by Chuck... >> >>I purchased a 80gig hd while I was putting togeather my current pc(Azus >> >> A7n8x-x, AMD2600333-Ebarton, 2XKingstone 512DDR DIMM, 2XSamsung 80gig >> >> hd,etc.) It's about 9mos old. I installed the hd I am using as >> >> "C"drive and all my stuff on it , originally in my old cp with windows >> >> me. It >> >> formated the 80 gig hd with 32gig and I did not know enough to notice >> >> it until later. I have #1(32) as primary and #2 as Slave. >> >> >> >> Can some one advise me to articles or help me upgrade my understanding >> >> so I can understand the basics of what is going on so that I can >> >> change >> >> out this fat32 and install the proper format sys. ? Or, if too big a >> >> question then direct me to fix my hd to go th the full 80 on #1(32)? >> >> Thank you >> >> (I hope this is understandable) > "Mercury" wrote: > >> try diskpart /extend - but supposedly not on system volumes. >> "Yves Leclerc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:(E-Mail Removed)... >> > XP will only be able to format FAT32 drives to 32GB, natively. >> > Microsoft >> > has purposely place this limit. Now, in order to expand your >> > partition, >> > you need to look at utilities like Partition Magic, since XP does not >> > allow your to expand partitions on its own. "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news A8FAAB9-05FB-45AD-A234-(E-Mail Removed)...>I found all but the "volume" to change the fat32 to NTFS thru articles in >PC > Mag. What is the volume the are talking about-- total hd space, space of > the > proposed partition--??? > > I considered just experimenting and stick in 1as in all/100%. I would > sure > appreciate your thoughts--Chuck > > > > > > "Anna" wrote: > >> >> >> > "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> >> > news:1CEC1495-A102-4B34-93D8-(E-Mail Removed)... >> >> >>I purchased a 80gig hd while I was putting togeather my current >> >> >>pc(Azus >> >> >> A7n8x-x, AMD2600333-Ebarton, 2XKingstone 512DDR DIMM, 2XSamsung >> >> >> 80gig >> >> >> hd,etc.) It's about 9mos old. I installed the hd I am using as >> >> >> "C"drive >> >> >> and all my stuff on it , originally in my old cp with windows me. >> >> >> It >> >> >> formated the 80 gig hd with 32gig and I did not know enough to >> >> >> notice >> >> >> it until >> >> >> later. I have #1(32) as primary and #2 as Slave. >> >> >> >> >> >> Can some one advise me to articles or help me upgrade my >> >> >> understanding >> >> >> so >> >> >> I can understand the basics of what is going on so that I can >> >> >> change >> >> >> out >> >> >> this fat32 and install the proper format sys. ? Or, if too big a >> >> >> question >> >> >> then direct me to fix my hd to go th the full 80 on #1(32)? Thank >> >> >> you >> >> >> (I hope >> >> >> this is understandable) >> >> >> > "Mercury" wrote: >> > >> >> try diskpart /extend - but supposedly not on system volumes. >> >> >> >> "Yves Leclerc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)... >> >> > XP will only be able to format FAT32 drives to 32GB, natively. >> >> > Microsoft >> >> > has purposely place this limit. Now, in order to expand your >> >> > partition, >> >> > you need to look at utilities like Partition Magic, since XP does >> >> > not >> >> > allow your to expand partitions on its own. >> >> >> "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news A8FAAB9-05FB-45AD-A234-(E-Mail Removed)...>> >I found all but the "volume" to change the fat32 to NTFS thru articles >> >in >> >PC >> > Mag. What is the volume the are talking about-- total hd space, space >> > of >> > the >> > proposed partition--??? >> > >> > I considered just experimenting and stick in 1as in all/100%. I would >> > sure >> > appreciate your thoughts--Chuck Response by Anna... >> Chuck: >> First, let me see if I understand your problem, or indeed, if there's any >> problem at all... >> >> 1. You have two 80 GB HDs. One of them, we'll call it #1 contains the XP >> OS >> and it's the one you boot to. >> >> 2. That #1 HD has two partitions; the first partition is 32 GB and has >> been >> formatted FAT32. The second partition is what? unallocated space? Has it >> been partitioned/formatted? >> >> 3. Your second 80 GB HD, we'll call it #2 has been installed as a Slave >> to >> your #1 HD. Is that right? You use it for storage and/or backup purposes? >> Has that drive also been formatted FAT32? >> >> 4. Is the problem that you want to convert any FAT32 partitions to NTFS >> ones? That's easy enough, but perhaps it's unnecessary. >> >> 5. And/or is the problem that you have "unallocated space" on one of >> those >> drives that you want to utilize? >> >> 6. Are you familiar with XP's Disk Management utility? Start > >> right-click >> My Computer > Manage > Disk Management? Think you could find your way >> using >> that utility to do what you want to do? >> >> 7. Is it that you want one partition on one of your 80 GB drives so that >> it >> encompasses the entire capacity of that drive, i.e., the drive now >> contains >> two partitions and you want only a single one? >> >> Forget about using the diskpart command. >> >> Anyway, if I've misunderstood your situation and what you want to >> accomplish, please forgive me. If, however, you want further assistance >> from >> me, or others, please so indicate. >> Anna "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news 34D7728-E25C-4C68-9DFE-(E-Mail Removed)...> Dear Anna: > > You've got what I do not! Step-by-step ability to lawout logical > problems. > I am one of those that sees the answer but strugles with the liner parts. > > Yes to Q1. Q2.: #1 has one partition of 32 GB and #2 is unallocated and > I > donot know how to configure for storage which is how I envisioned it > originally. #2 is formated Basic and NTFS. Q3.: Yes. Q4. I want to get #1 > to > NTFS w/o losing my info and get my 46 GB of storage back--for gp's... > then > clean up trash on #1 and then config to put programs on #1 and Storage on > #2. > Q6. Yes. I have gone as far as everything correct except entering > "volume" > which is what fail message says to my entry(DOS) I agree that utl seems to > go > where I want but have to answer "volume" Q first. Maytbe more to come but > that is my road block todate. > > Do you know what the ref. of "volume" is and where I can go to learn about > drives and there config and related uses? > Thanx in advance--Chuck Chuck: To be perfectly frank, I'm not entirely sure I completely understand your present situation, but I'm basing the following on what I *think* is your present configuration... 1. So your #1 HD (your booting drive) contains a single partition of 32 GB (presumably FAT32) and the remained of that 80 GB drive is unallocated. So you need to partition/format that "unallocated space" by using XP's Disk Management utility (Start > right-click My Computer > Manage > Computer Management > Disk Management). There you can create a partition and format that "unallocated space". Because of its size, you will format it NTFS. The Help file in DM will give you details of the process. It's not complicated at all. It probably would be best if you would convert that first booting partition from FAT32 to NTFS. There's a built-in convert function in XP. Access the Help and Support files and do a search for "convert to ntfs" for the simple instructions to perform this conversion process. Now, after doing this, you will have two NTFS partitions on your booting drive. There's no way within XP that will allow you to "merge" those two partitions into one. In order to do so non-destructively you would need to use a third-party partition manager type of program such as Partition Magic. On the other hand if you would not object to deleting your present XP partition (the 32 GB one) and losing ALL the data on that partition -- in effect, starting all over again -- you could do that and create a single NTFS partition by making a fresh install of XP. Note you would have to install ALL your programs and data files again. So I don't know if that's a practical approach for you. 2. Since your second HD is already NTFS-formatted, there's no problem here. As I've said, I'm not entirely sure that I've responded to your specific questions, nor am I sure that I precisely understand what you're trying to accomplish. If I haven't, and you want to give this another try, please do so. As to how you can learn more about "volumes" and aspects that relate to hard drives and their configurations, there are tons of books on the subject and a wealth of websites containing basic and advanced information re this subject. You can do a Google search on "hard drive configuration" or some such and you'll be pointed to these sites. Anna |
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