Just upgraded my PC's DVD burner to one that supports Dual
Layer (D/L). I'd like to use it to "burn" 2 hours of
recorded video from my AIW X800-XT onto a single disc.

My question is: Will D/L DVDs play in most standard DVD
players (not recorders, just standard, retail DVD players)?

In other words, I'm "assuming" that Dual Layer just means
it's like a standard DVD, but records on both sides vs. one.
So when playing the DVD in a standard DVD player, I'm
assuming all you would need to do is "FLIP" the disc over
and play the other side. Is this correct?

So if the D/L is DVD-R, and your DVD players support DVD-R
discs (which 99.9% do), then WOULD THE D/L DVD-R PLAY BACK
FINE?

Or do DVD players (NOT recorders) specifically have to
support D/L formats?

Thanks for any/all advice.

Gary

> My question is: Will D/L DVDs play in most standard DVD players (not
> recorders, just standard, retail DVD players)?

Yes.

>
> In other words, I'm "assuming" that Dual Layer just means it's like a
> standard DVD, but records on both sides vs. one.

No. Dual Layer has both layers on the same side. It reads
the top layer then refocuses the laser to read the layer underneath.
You don't have to flip it over.

Tom Lake

On Sun, 21 May 2006 13:02:53 GMT, gary <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Just upgraded my PC's DVD burner to one that supports Dual
>Layer (D/L). I'd like to use it to "burn" 2 hours of
>recorded video from my AIW X800-XT onto a single disc.
>
>My question is: Will D/L DVDs play in most standard DVD
>players (not recorders, just standard, retail DVD players)?

Yes -- at least if your DVD-recorder have the possibility to have the
Booktype/Bitsetting set to DVD-ROM for dual layer-discs. Many (most)
recorders fixes this automaticly for DVD+R DL and DVD-DL.

At least a bit older players could have advantage of booktype set to
DVD-ROM, as they might not "understand" what a DVD-/+R DL-disc is, but
can read it through if they belive it is a DVD-ROM (DVD-players always
support dual layer DVD-Video-disc, do the Dual Layer-part is always
supported -- 90%, or maybe more, of DVDs with movies have two layers).

But for two hours of video you should be able to use a standard
single-layer disc and still have have very good quality.

>In other words, I'm "assuming" that Dual Layer just means
>it's like a standard DVD, but records on both sides vs. one.
>So when playing the DVD in a standard DVD player, I'm
>assuming all you would need to do is "FLIP" the disc over
>and play the other side. Is this correct?

Dual Layer have both layers on the same side, so you don't have to
flip.




--
Clas Mehus
- "Den som har flest prylar när han dör vinner..."

No:

Most of my relatives have dvd players more than 2 years old and they can not
play dvd+r or dvd-r, let alone dual layer, MP3, dvd+/-rw, or anything other
than factory stamped dvd's, single or dual layer.

Strange enough, I once distributed a dvd-r without sound that ran fine in
their units, but after encoding sound, the dvd's would not work. Very
strange.

Always check your target audience and see what type of equipment they have.
Be sure they have modern equipment purchased in the last 2 years, and were
smart enough to purchase a multi-format dvd player. Then you will be OK.
OTHERWISE, -----GOOD LUCK----

William



"gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1yZbg.329$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Just upgraded my PC's DVD burner to one that supports Dual Layer (D/L).
> I'd like to use it to "burn" 2 hours of recorded video from my AIW X800-XT
> onto a single disc.
>
> My question is: Will D/L DVDs play in most standard DVD players (not
> recorders, just standard, retail DVD players)?
>
> In other words, I'm "assuming" that Dual Layer just means it's like a
> standard DVD, but records on both sides vs. one.
> So when playing the DVD in a standard DVD player, I'm assuming all you
> would need to do is "FLIP" the disc over and play the other side. Is this
> correct?
>
> So if the D/L is DVD-R, and your DVD players support DVD-R discs (which
> 99.9% do), then WOULD THE D/L DVD-R PLAY BACK FINE?
>
> Or do DVD players (NOT recorders) specifically have to support D/L
> formats?
>
> Thanks for any/all advice.
>
> Gary

Yes; most factory pressed DVDs of movies are dual-layer.


gary wrote:

> Just upgraded my PC's DVD burner to one that supports Dual Layer
> (D/L). I'd like to use it to "burn" 2 hours of recorded video from my
> AIW X800-XT onto a single disc.
>
> My question is: Will D/L DVDs play in most standard DVD players (not
> recorders, just standard, retail DVD players)?
>
> In other words, I'm "assuming" that Dual Layer just means it's like a
> standard DVD, but records on both sides vs. one.
> So when playing the DVD in a standard DVD player, I'm assuming all you
> would need to do is "FLIP" the disc over and play the other side. Is
> this correct?
>
> So if the D/L is DVD-R, and your DVD players support DVD-R discs (which
> 99.9% do), then WOULD THE D/L DVD-R PLAY BACK FINE?
>
> Or do DVD players (NOT recorders) specifically have to support D/L formats?
>
> Thanks for any/all advice.
>
> Gary

Correct. But it's worth noting that double sided media that you have to
flip over does exist, although it's exremely rare. Such a media could
actually be dual layer on each side and hold about 18 gigabytes of data.

But normal dual layer media has both layers on the same side.


Tom Lake wrote:

>>My question is: Will D/L DVDs play in most standard DVD players (not
>>recorders, just standard, retail DVD players)?
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>>In other words, I'm "assuming" that Dual Layer just means it's like a
>>standard DVD, but records on both sides vs. one.
>
>
> No. Dual Layer has both layers on the same side. It reads
> the top layer then refocuses the laser to read the layer underneath.
> You don't have to flip it over.
>
> Tom Lake
>
>

On Sun, 21 May 2006 15:54:19 -0700, "William"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Most of my relatives have dvd players more than 2 years old and they can not
>play dvd+r or dvd-r, let alone dual layer, MP3, dvd+/-rw, or anything other
>than factory stamped dvd's, single or dual layer.

Most DVD-players for the last 5-6 years can handle recorded discs. I
guess you can say at least around 80 % of the players from the 6 last
years. The compatiblity for DVD-R is somewhat better than for DVD+R,
but this can often be fixed if your recorder can change booktype
(DVD+R/RW/+R DL/-R DL etc. will be identified as DVD-ROM).

Personally I have a Samsung-player from 2000. This can handle MP3,
DVD+R DL, DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW, DVD-RW etc etc. Also my first player,
which I belive I bought in 1998, could handle CD-R/RW with MP3's
(thus, never tried it with recorded DVDs).




--
Clas Mehus
- "Den som har flest prylar när han dör vinner..."

Clas:

Have you been to Wal-Mart lately? I have, only 2 out of 8 demo units were
multi-format that could play all formats. I went shopping for a
multi-format to purchase for mom so she could see the 2,347 slides I scanned
of dads from the 30's - 80's. I also needed something to recommend for
anyone interested. Found a cheep $39.00 unit for sale at Sears. Small and
cheep, and can play anything I throw at it. Out of 14 different relatives,
only four could play dvd-r I made. (And two were computers)

All I am saying, if someone is worried about being able to play a home
recorded dual-layer dvd in someone else's player, they have more to worry
about than this. They better check their target audience and find out what
type of gear they have. Shall we discuss hd-dvd and blue-ray while we are
at it?

William

PS

When I took Multi-Media and CD-ROM production in college, we had a saying.
"Start at the end and work backwards." In other words, know your customer.
Know what equipment they have, what they expect as far as 'splash', cultural
norms, do's and don't, content, 'user profiling', iconic research, etc.
THEN you can work backwards. What type of equipment is required to develop
the delivery mechanism needed. What type of content is acceptable to the
viewing audience. Then you could write a script, make budgets, and produce
content. THEN you can produce, edit, master, copy, and distribute.

People who start at the beginning usually get shot down before they get to
the end.



"Clas Mehus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 15:54:19 -0700, "William"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> Most DVD-players for the last 5-6 years can handle recorded discs. I
> guess you can say at least around 80 % of the players from the 6 last
> years. The compatiblity for DVD-R is somewhat better than for DVD+R,
> but this can often be fixed if your recorder can change booktype
> (DVD+R/RW/+R DL/-R DL etc. will be identified as DVD-ROM).
>
> Personally I have a Samsung-player from 2000. This can handle MP3,
> DVD+R DL, DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW, DVD-RW etc etc. Also my first player,
> which I belive I bought in 1998, could handle CD-R/RW with MP3's
> (thus, never tried it with recorded DVDs).
>
>
>
>
> --
> Clas Mehus
> - "Den som har flest prylar när han dör vinner..."

You are mixing apples and oranges.

DVD players were made, first, to play video DVDs. I'd say that
virtually every DVD player made in the past 4 years can play a video DVD
whether it is single or dual layer, +R, -R, +RW or -RW.

That has nothing to do with playing VCDs, MP3 CDs, CDs with JPEG
pictures on them.

You are confusing being able to read the media with what type of data is
recoreded on that media.

The original question ("Can Dual Layer DVDs Play in Most Standard DVD
Players?") dealt ONLY with ability to physically read the media. It
didn't even touch on the question of what that data was, which is what
you now seem to be asking about.


William wrote:

> Clas:
>
> Have you been to Wal-Mart lately? I have, only 2 out of 8 demo units were
> multi-format that could play all formats. I went shopping for a
> multi-format to purchase for mom so she could see the 2,347 slides I scanned
> of dads from the 30's - 80's. I also needed something to recommend for
> anyone interested. Found a cheep $39.00 unit for sale at Sears. Small and
> cheep, and can play anything I throw at it. Out of 14 different relatives,
> only four could play dvd-r I made. (And two were computers)
>
> All I am saying, if someone is worried about being able to play a home
> recorded dual-layer dvd in someone else's player, they have more to worry
> about than this. They better check their target audience and find out what
> type of gear they have. Shall we discuss hd-dvd and blue-ray while we are
> at it?
>
> William
>
> PS
>
> When I took Multi-Media and CD-ROM production in college, we had a saying.
> "Start at the end and work backwards." In other words, know your customer.
> Know what equipment they have, what they expect as far as 'splash', cultural
> norms, do's and don't, content, 'user profiling', iconic research, etc.
> THEN you can work backwards. What type of equipment is required to develop
> the delivery mechanism needed. What type of content is acceptable to the
> viewing audience. Then you could write a script, make budgets, and produce
> content. THEN you can produce, edit, master, copy, and distribute.
>
> People who start at the beginning usually get shot down before they get to
> the end.
>
>
>
> "Clas Mehus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>On Sun, 21 May 2006 15:54:19 -0700, "William"
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>Most DVD-players for the last 5-6 years can handle recorded discs. I
>>guess you can say at least around 80 % of the players from the 6 last
>>years. The compatiblity for DVD-R is somewhat better than for DVD+R,
>>but this can often be fixed if your recorder can change booktype
>>(DVD+R/RW/+R DL/-R DL etc. will be identified as DVD-ROM).
>>
>>Personally I have a Samsung-player from 2000. This can handle MP3,
>>DVD+R DL, DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW, DVD-RW etc etc. Also my first player,
>>which I belive I bought in 1998, could handle CD-R/RW with MP3's
>>(thus, never tried it with recorded DVDs).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Clas Mehus
>>- "Den som har flest prylar när han dör vinner..."
>
>
>

Barry:

I am doing nothing of the sort.

The question as put: "......I'd like to use it to "burn" 2 hours of
recorded video from my AIW X800-XT onto a single disc......"

and

"......Will D/L DVDs play in most standard DVD
players (not recorders, just standard, retail DVD players)?....."

and

"---In other words, I'm "assuming" that Dual Layer just means ..."


If you think every DVD player on the market made in the last 4 years can
play dvd-/+r, +rw or-rw, I suggest you go down to Wall-Mart or FredMeyers
and get an education. I HAVE. YOU ARE WRONG!

I am confusing nothing. What a waste of time. Question asked and answered.

William




"Barry Watzman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You are mixing apples and oranges.
>
> DVD players were made, first, to play video DVDs. I'd say that virtually
> every DVD player made in the past 4 years can play a video DVD whether it
> is single or dual layer, +R, -R, +RW or -RW.
>
> That has nothing to do with playing VCDs, MP3 CDs, CDs with JPEG pictures
> on them.
>
> You are confusing being able to read the media with what type of data is
> recoreded on that media.
>
> The original question ("Can Dual Layer DVDs Play in Most Standard DVD
> Players?") dealt ONLY with ability to physically read the media. It
> didn't even touch on the question of what that data was, which is what you
> now seem to be asking about.
>
>
> William wrote:
>
>> Clas:
>>
>> Have you been to Wal-Mart lately? I have, only 2 out of 8 demo units
>> were multi-format that could play all formats. I went shopping for a
>> multi-format to purchase for mom so she could see the 2,347 slides I
>> scanned of dads from the 30's - 80's. I also needed something to
>> recommend for anyone interested. Found a cheep $39.00 unit for sale at
>> Sears. Small and cheep, and can play anything I throw at it. Out of 14
>> different relatives, only four could play dvd-r I made. (And two were
>> computers)
>>
>> All I am saying, if someone is worried about being able to play a home
>> recorded dual-layer dvd in someone else's player, they have more to worry
>> about than this. They better check their target audience and find out
>> what type of gear they have. Shall we discuss hd-dvd and blue-ray while
>> we are at it?
>>
>> William
>>
>> PS
>>
>> When I took Multi-Media and CD-ROM production in college, we had a
>> saying. "Start at the end and work backwards." In other words, know your
>> customer. Know what equipment they have, what they expect as far as
>> 'splash', cultural norms, do's and don't, content, 'user profiling',
>> iconic research, etc. THEN you can work backwards. What type of
>> equipment is required to develop the delivery mechanism needed. What
>> type of content is acceptable to the viewing audience. Then you could
>> write a script, make budgets, and produce content. THEN you can produce,
>> edit, master, copy, and distribute.
>>
>> People who start at the beginning usually get shot down before they get
>> to the end.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Clas Mehus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>On Sun, 21 May 2006 15:54:19 -0700, "William"
>>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>Most DVD-players for the last 5-6 years can handle recorded discs. I
>>>guess you can say at least around 80 % of the players from the 6 last
>>>years. The compatiblity for DVD-R is somewhat better than for DVD+R,
>>>but this can often be fixed if your recorder can change booktype
>>>(DVD+R/RW/+R DL/-R DL etc. will be identified as DVD-ROM).
>>>
>>>Personally I have a Samsung-player from 2000. This can handle MP3,
>>>DVD+R DL, DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW, DVD-RW etc etc. Also my first player,
>>>which I belive I bought in 1998, could handle CD-R/RW with MP3's
>>>(thus, never tried it with recorded DVDs).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Clas Mehus
>>>- "Den som har flest prylar när han dör vinner..."
>>
>>