I want to try out the latest viruses and see if they are any good.
Most of them are boring and lack creativity. There has got to be some
virus authors who can show some skill. The old viruses from the
1990's were a lot more fun and exciting than the ones these days. It
seems the skill of virus creation has vanished along with the death of
heavy metal and punk rock. Those were the good old days. I'm looking
for a virus that has some balls and does some serious damage to my
operating system, while stealing my identity and credit card numbers.
Or better yet a virus that allows anyone to hack into a federal bank
and withdraw all the money, or one that will shut down the entire .gov
network including the whitehouse. Or how about a virus that makes
someone's computer explode. Those are the good viruses that actually
do something fun.

These 21st century viruses are a complete bore. Like big deal, when
they pop up a few ads on my screen, or mess up my browser so I cant
access Mcaffee or Microsoft.com. Like big ****ing deal. I dont much
care for either of those sites anyhow, and as far as those popup ads,
who cares. Every goddamn website is filled with them anyhow, so
what's a few more.

Come on you virus authors. Lets get real, and lets create something
that does some real damage and causes panic and excitement. These
days the media make it sound like these viruses are exciting, but
that's just the media trying to make a sensational blood gushing story
out of a broken fingernail. It's just like that Swine Flu. People
die from all flus, every year, but this is supposed to be the "big
one" that is going to wipe out civilization and destroy the human
race..... Just more media lies and bullshit.

I want a REAL VIRUS. One that causes mass chaos across the entire
planet, and does so in the real world, not just in stories created by
bored news reporters trying to make a buck. Hell, why not create a
computer virus that actually spreads the swine flu to every linux user
on earth. After all, most windows users hate linux users, so lets
wipe them off the face of the earth. If you recall, linux users like
to boast that they're so called "superior" operating system is virus
free. Lets prove them wrong and put them in their rightful place once
and for all. I dont know about you, but I'm damn tired of them
thinking they are superior human beings to everyone else just because
they are too damn cheap to actually pay for a copy of Windows, and
would rather spend their entire lives in some cheap rented basement
filled with damp mildew because they are too busy trying to get their
computers to work, than to actually get a job.

How about we all get even with them and create a virus so powerful
that their USB ports begin firing real bullets, forcing them out of
the darkness of their windowless basements into the sunlight and
making them come face to face with actual living and breathing human
beings, and having to communicate using their tongue rather than a
keyboard, and having to use actual words found in the dictionary,
rather than words like Ubunta and GNU. Who knows, 20 or 30 percent of
them may actually apply for employment, so they can afford to purchase
Vista, while one in ten thousand may actually meet a member of the
opposite sex for the first time in their life and maybe even go on a
date and kiss. Miracles do happen, you know.

As soon a I can find the best place to download the latest viruses,
I'll give them a try, but I already know I am going to be disappointed
just like I was with the viruses of 2008, 2007, and earlier. We need
a new virus that actually does something. Lets get on the ball and
create at least one. I'm sure that at least one or two of you must
have some talent and skill to actually create a virus that has more
power than a triple A penlight battery. Lets create a virus that runs
on all eight cylinders and has more horsepower than the engine in a
NASA rocket booster.

I'll be waiting !!!!

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I want to try out the latest viruses and [...]

I hope you are comfortable and have something to read while you wait.

Just what exactly do you think a virus does that isn't being done these
days. Viruses these days are mostly just for starting.

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> I want to try out the latest viruses and see if they are any good.

Ok, here's a link to koobface:

"Virus Guy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
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>> I want to try out the latest viruses and see if they are any good.
>
> Ok, here's a link to koobface:

Koobface is a worm, not a virus.

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "FromTheRafters" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>
> | "Virus Guy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>>>> I want to try out the latest viruses and see if they are any good.
>
>>> Ok, here's a link to koobface:
>
> | Koobface is a worm, not a virus.
>
>
> It is a sub-class of virus as it does self replicate.

Last I heard, the deciding factor separating worm from virus was that a
virus replicated by attaching to code (infection) and a worm need not do
so. A program that replicates without the need to infect another
program, is a replicating worm.

On Sun, 03 May 2009 20:49:10 -0400, David H. Lipman <DLipman~nospam~@verizon.net> wrote:

> As long as it self-replicates its a virus. When it uses other means like network

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
agrees with my understanding of the definition, that a
virus must have a host program to infect, while a worm
does not, and the two are different, rather then a
worm being a subclass of a virus.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "FromTheRafters" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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> | "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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>>> From: "FromTheRafters" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>>> | "Virus Guy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>>>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
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>>>>>> I want to try out the latest viruses and see if they are any
>>>>>> good.
>
>>>>> Ok, here's a link to koobface:
>
>>> | Koobface is a worm, not a virus.
>
>
>>> It is a sub-class of virus as it does self replicate.
>
> | Last I heard, the deciding factor separating worm from virus was
> that a
> | virus replicated by attaching to code (infection) and a worm need
> not do
> | so. A program that replicates without the need to infect another
> | program, is a replicating worm.
>
> As long as it self-replicates its a virus. When it uses other means
> like network
> protocols or read/write media insertions and not file infection it
> becomes a worm.
> But that doen't change it from being a sub-class of virus. It just
> means it isn't a file
> infecting virus. When a trojan prepends, appends or inserts code into
> a legitimate file
> and that file is "infected" it didn't become a virus if that infected
> file can't infect
> another file. It is simply trojanized. The concept of prepending,
> appending or inserting
> code does not make the distinction of a virus. The underlying factor
> is self replication.

I know Wikipedia isn't the know all and end all ... but in this case
both "computer worm" and "computer virus" are more in line with my
interpretation than with yours. That is not to say that I agree
completely with what is there either - but mostly.

"David W. Hodgins" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. :-)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
> agrees with my understanding of the definition, that a
> virus must have a host program to infect, while a worm
> does not, and the two are different, rather then a
> worm being a subclass of a virus.>

What about a companion virus that replicates without attaching itself
or infecting a host program?

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"Bill Clark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "David W. Hodgins" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>
>> I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. :-)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
>> agrees with my understanding of the definition, that a
>> virus must have a host program to infect, while a worm
>> does not, and the two are different, rather then a
>> worm being a subclass of a virus.>
>
> What about a companion virus that replicates without attaching itself
> or infecting a host program?

The virus runs as a matter of course when the host program is invoked.
It doesn't matter if it is a fragmented cavity infector, a filesystem
infector, or a companion (aliasing) infector. The code can be "attached"
external to the host program's "file". See Dir-II method.

http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/dir2.shtml

[ki4jgt]

Know this is about a year late, but

Firstly don't ask for things you can't handle. Everyone's system will go down. Even yours.

Secondly these 21st century viruses can't get around as great as the 1990 viruses. There's too much security. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's extremely complicated.

Thirdly people have realized how beneficial hacking is these days. Hackers are no longer forced to believe that their deeds are evil and must remain in the dark any more. Though occasionally a good hacker has a bad striek, In these modern times, hackers are recruited to do good things. including virus writing.

Fourthly, the best things in life are free. If you want to pay for a system which is vulnerable then thats your perogative. It's none of my business and I don't think I'm any better for having a system with just as many vulnerabilities. Just not as well known. Einstein said and proved that there is no way possible to cover all the bases. Meaning every system has faults. You just pay for yours. If you don't like the fact that Ubuntu or Linux is FREE, then you just have to get over it! As long as a quality system works I think most people would rather not pay for than pay 100 - 1000 dollars for it!

There are Linux viruses, but since every Linux system is different, they have a hard time spreading, though everyone moving to Ubuntu kind of defeats that. And your asking the computer virus writers to destroy themselves??? That makes no sense. Pt being you have to learn to program before you write a virus, meaning you're going to sit in front of a computer for some time.

Fifthly, You won't have to wait long! There's always something interesting that happens every decade. Maybe this'll be the year he emp is deployed and destroys all computers on the planet. Most peoples whole life savings, ssi, and businesses will be lost, but if you're willing to sacrifice that for your own entertainment, then that is up to you.