Timothy Daniels wrote:
> "mike" wrote:
>> GMAN wrote:
>>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>>> Got the tivo drive working, thanks again. Loaded XPSP2;
>>>> seems to be working fine.
>>>>
>>>> Time to clone the original IDE drive.
>>>> I routinely use Acronis 10 to backup IDE system
>>>> drives and restore to IDE drives with different
>>>> partition geometry.
>>>> When I tried to backup an IDE drive and restore
>>>> to a SATA drive, it didn't work.
>>>>
>>>> XPSP3 boots as far as the two-tone blue screen with
>>>> the xp logo. The screen goes black with mouse cursor.
>>>> The cursor moves, but nothing else happens.
>>>>
>>>> I tried booting an XPSP2 CD to run the recovery console,
>>>> but it gave a stop error. Messed around with it some more
>>>> and tried the XPSP2 CD again. This time I got to the
>>>> recovery console and ran fixboot and fixmbr.
>>>> Still no joy.
>>>> If I try to boot to safe mode, the screen flashes back
>>>> and forth between the blue windows screen and the black
>>>> safe-mode screen.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that windows is trying to use the IDE driver
>>>> on a SATA disk.
>>>> Is there any way to force XP to re-detect hardware before it boots.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't have an XPSP3 CD. Always load sp2 disk and update
>>>> to sp3. Not sure if this matters. I'd rather not go to the
>>>> trouble of slipstreaming SP3 if it's not essential.
>>>>
>>>> So, any suggestions on moving my boot disk from IDE to SATA?
>>>> I REEELY don't want to reload all the programs/settings.
>>> Boot into windows with your IDE drive like normal, install the SATA chipset drivers in windows. Shut down. Reboot and
>>> clone the IDE to SATA. Shut down, boot with SATA as boot drive.
>>>
>> I have run the machine with both drives installed and working. It booted
>> from the ide drive and the sata was accessible. Doesn't that mean that
>> it did install the sata drivers?
>> I think that the problem might be that the IDE drive was C and D,
>> while the SATA was E and F. When I remove the ide drive, the SATA
>> is now C and D, but the internal mapping for C and D from the restored image still points to the "missing" IDE
>> drives?? Boots to the point where it switches to the
>> windows drive map and there's nothing there. Windows seems to know
>> how to sort this out for ide/ide clones, but not for SATA.
>>
>> It's also an old Dell 4600i. Think this has early SATA support that
>> may not be up to the latest standards???
>>
>> I've had similar problems in the past with graphics drivers.
>> The solution was to uninstall the graphics driver before backing up the
>> system in vga mode. Don't think this works with disk drivers, because
>> the system locks up as soon as you remove the driver.
>>
>> Need a magic bullet to put in runonce to force a rescan of hardware??
>>
>> This has gotta be a common problem for people who upgrade their computers
>> with SATA drives. I can't be the first person needing to do this cloning
>> operation.
>
> If you clone XP from partition X on one HD to partition Y on another HD,
> you have to adjust the "partition()" argument in the boot.ini menu to reflect the
> new partition no. (which starts with "1"), and you have to mark as "active"
> the partition which contains that boot.ini menu. If you are using the MBR on
> the old HD (i.e. the old HD still has the top position in the BIOS's boot
> sequence), you have to not only change the partition() value but also the
> rdisk() value (which starts with "0") in the boot.ini menu on the old HD (i.e.
> on the IDE HD in this case). "rdisk()" represents the relative position in the
> boot sequence of the HD that contains the booting partition - the partition
> which contains the boot sector and the files ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini.
> If you weren't transferring XP from an IDE HD to a SATA HD, you could
> just plug the old HD's data cable into the new HD and be done with it, since
> the new HD would then be in the position at the top of the boot sequence.
> But since the data cables are different for the IDE and SATA HDs, you have
> to understand the syntax of boot.ini, the meaning of "boot sequence" and how
> to set it in the BIOS, and the meaning of being the "active" partition and how
> to set that. Are you sure you want to go through that, or would you settle for
> just using another IDE HD?
>
> *TimDaniels*
>
>
>
I don't have any problem going through "all that". Problem is determining
what "all that" is.
I think we're still on different pages.
The SATA drive starts to boot. It gets all the way to the "loading
personal settings" part before the screen goes blank.
I tried randomly changing numbers in the boot.ini file.
In every case, I got error messages about missing files and/or
"reload windows".
I'm not convinced that the problem is in boot.ini, 'cause it gets way
past that in the boot sequence.
I had a similar problem years ago with win98 and a boot manager that
munged the registry to swizzle the drive letters. That way, you
couldhave three C: drives and one common D: drive. I could multi-boot
and every boot drive came up as c:, correctly linked to the common d:>
I could clone
partitions and boot without incident. Anyway, if that got screwed up,
the system would boot up to the point where it looked into the registry,
found the corrupt value and tried to execute from nowhere.
This sata problem feels just like that. It gets FAR into the boot process
before it just hangs.
I've been googling for two days. I find lots of incidences of my exact
problem, but no real solutions. It's been suggested that a repair install
might fix it. Problem with a repair install is that it doesn't work.
For example, if you have microsoft office installed, it won't work after
a repair install. Maintaining the license info on licensed products
is one of the main reasons to want to clone rather than reinstall.
YMMV
mike
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