I HATE the new 2007 editions of MS Office Excel and Word. I can't find any
of the commands I used to know by heart. Every time I try to use the new
computer I want to cry or throw it out the window. This is totally an
unfamiliar problem for me because
1) I grew up with a mouse in my hand,
2) I have a minor in Computer Science, and
3) my friends call me "Data" because I'm typically so UNemotional.

WHY ON EARTH did microsofties decide to go and change EVERYTHING?????

Is there a way to make 2007 editions look and work like previous editions?
While I await the instructions, I'm going back to my 2000 NT machine. If
there are no instructions, this computer is getting returned ASAP.

Thanks.

Crystal

There are third party programs that display the "classic" menus:

Patrick Schmid's ribbon customizer:
http://pschmid.net/index.php

(or directly)
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...r/download.php

From the documentation page:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...etourpart3.php

Dick Kusleika reviewed a couple:
http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/arch...into-the-past/

Crystal wrote:
>
> I HATE the new 2007 editions of MS Office Excel and Word. I can't find any
> of the commands I used to know by heart. Every time I try to use the new
> computer I want to cry or throw it out the window. This is totally an
> unfamiliar problem for me because
> 1) I grew up with a mouse in my hand,
> 2) I have a minor in Computer Science, and
> 3) my friends call me "Data" because I'm typically so UNemotional.
>
> WHY ON EARTH did microsofties decide to go and change EVERYTHING?????
>
> Is there a way to make 2007 editions look and work like previous editions?
> While I await the instructions, I'm going back to my 2000 NT machine. If
> there are no instructions, this computer is getting returned ASAP.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Crystal

--

Dave Peterson

Thanks! Elsewhere somebody wrote something to the effect of "oh just take 20
minutes to learn the new system" and it's not that simple. I HAD everything
arranged for the way I need to use it. This new "ribbon" thing has forced me
back to using all the control keys that my fingers remember because I can't
find the commands graphically. Perhaps in 6 months I can schedule some time
to learn the "ribbon." More likely, I'll wait 2 or 3 more years to consider
upgrading from Win '98 and 2000 to XP.

I'm absolutely letting our IT department know that upgrading to Vista and
2007 Office is a VERY BAD idea. Others in our company, especially the older
ones, are SIGNIFICANTLY more averse to change than I am and are likely to
stop using the computer entirely.

~ Crystal

"Dave Peterson" wrote:

> There are third party programs that display the "classic" menus:
>
> Patrick Schmid's ribbon customizer:
> http://pschmid.net/index.php
>
> (or directly)
> http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...r/download.php
>
> From the documentation page:
> http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...etourpart3.php
>
> Dick Kusleika reviewed a couple:
> http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/arch...into-the-past/
>
> Crystal wrote:
> >
> > I HATE the new 2007 editions of MS Office Excel and Word. I can't find any
> > of the commands I used to know by heart. Every time I try to use the new
> > computer I want to cry or throw it out the window. This is totally an
> > unfamiliar problem for me because
> > 1) I grew up with a mouse in my hand,
> > 2) I have a minor in Computer Science, and
> > 3) my friends call me "Data" because I'm typically so UNemotional.
> >
> > WHY ON EARTH did microsofties decide to go and change EVERYTHING?????
> >
> > Is there a way to make 2007 editions look and work like previous editions?
> > While I await the instructions, I'm going back to my 2000 NT machine. If
> > there are no instructions, this computer is getting returned ASAP.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Crystal
>
> --
>
> Dave Peterson
>

Hi Crystal

It does become easier with time.
In the interim, there is also an excellent free download form Shah Shailesh,
which provides the "comfort" of the old menu system till you become familiar
with the ribbon.

http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/

--
Regards
Roger Govier



"Crystal" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:7C5A00EE-D226-43BB-A452-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks! Elsewhere somebody wrote something to the effect of "oh just take
> 20
> minutes to learn the new system" and it's not that simple. I HAD
> everything
> arranged for the way I need to use it. This new "ribbon" thing has forced
> me
> back to using all the control keys that my fingers remember because I
> can't
> find the commands graphically. Perhaps in 6 months I can schedule some
> time
> to learn the "ribbon." More likely, I'll wait 2 or 3 more years to
> consider
> upgrading from Win '98 and 2000 to XP.
>
> I'm absolutely letting our IT department know that upgrading to Vista and
> 2007 Office is a VERY BAD idea. Others in our company, especially the
> older
> ones, are SIGNIFICANTLY more averse to change than I am and are likely to
> stop using the computer entirely.
>
> ~ Crystal
>
> "Dave Peterson" wrote:
>
>> There are third party programs that display the "classic" menus:
>>
>> Patrick Schmid's ribbon customizer:
>> http://pschmid.net/index.php
>>
>> (or directly)
>> http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...r/download.php
>>
>> From the documentation page:
>> http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...etourpart3.php
>>
>> Dick Kusleika reviewed a couple:
>> http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/arch...into-the-past/
>>
>> Crystal wrote:
>> >
>> > I HATE the new 2007 editions of MS Office Excel and Word. I can't find
>> > any
>> > of the commands I used to know by heart. Every time I try to use the
>> > new
>> > computer I want to cry or throw it out the window. This is totally an
>> > unfamiliar problem for me because
>> > 1) I grew up with a mouse in my hand,
>> > 2) I have a minor in Computer Science, and
>> > 3) my friends call me "Data" because I'm typically so UNemotional.
>> >
>> > WHY ON EARTH did microsofties decide to go and change EVERYTHING?????
>> >
>> > Is there a way to make 2007 editions look and work like previous
>> > editions?
>> > While I await the instructions, I'm going back to my 2000 NT machine.
>> > If
>> > there are no instructions, this computer is getting returned ASAP.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Crystal
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dave Peterson
>>

Make a custom ribbon, or have someone do it for you. Distribute it
office-wide. Office 2007 makes it much easier to implement such
solutions. I have "My Tab" just to the left of my "Home" tab
(implemented as a start-up add-in workbook), and while I'm pretty
fluent with the standard ribbon commands by now, I find that I use
these commands 95% of the time:

* PivotTable
* Table (well worth the switch to 07 just for this one)
* Paste sub-menu
* Conditional Formatting
* Auto-Filter
* Sort
* Name Manager
* Font group (the thing that comes up as floatey when you right-click
on cells)
* External Data group
* Formula Auditing group

At 1280 resolution (not wide-screen), all these fit on the ribbon and
make it extremely convenient. The other common features (New, Open,
Print, Print Preview, etc) are right below in the Quick Access
Toolbar.

It doesn't take 6 months, I don't care how old you are. Not 20
minutes either, but certainly not 6 months - nowhere near that.

I've asked many colleagues who've made the switch, particularly ones
who are not computer-friendly, what they like most about the new
version. Their answer: "Everything is better! I can find stuff!"
With Word, the new system is even more intuitive - not right away for
someone like me or you who is used to the old version, but certainly
for less experienced users. I wouldn't be so quick to jump to
conclusions about "older users" as you call them.


On Sep 11, 6:50 am, Crystal <Crys...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Thanks! Elsewhere somebody wrote something to the effect of "oh just take 20
> minutes to learn the new system" and it's not that simple. I HAD everything
> arranged for the way I need to use it. This new "ribbon" thing has forced me
> back to using all the control keys that my fingers remember because I can't
> find the commands graphically. Perhaps in 6 months I can schedule some time
> to learn the "ribbon." More likely, I'll wait 2 or 3 more years to consider
> upgrading from Win '98 and 2000 to XP.
>
> I'm absolutely letting our IT department know that upgrading to Vista and
> 2007 Office is a VERY BAD idea. Others in our company, especially the older
> ones, are SIGNIFICANTLY more averse to change than I am and are likely to
> stop using the computer entirely.
>
> ~ Crystal
>
>
>
> "Dave Peterson" wrote:
> > There are third party programs that display the "classic" menus:
>
> > Patrick Schmid's ribbon customizer:
> >http://pschmid.net/index.php
>
> > (or directly)
> >http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...r/download.php
>
> > From the documentation page:
> >http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...etourpart3.php
>
> > Dick Kusleika reviewed a couple:
> >http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/arch...ward-into-the-...
>
> > Crystal wrote:
>
> > > I HATE the new 2007 editions of MS Office Excel and Word. I can't find any
> > > of the commands I used to know by heart. Every time I try to use the new
> > > computer I want to cry or throw it out the window. This is totally an
> > > unfamiliar problem for me because
> > > 1) I grew up with a mouse in my hand,
> > > 2) I have a minor in Computer Science, and
> > > 3) my friends call me "Data" because I'm typically so UNemotional.
>
> > > WHY ON EARTH did microsofties decide to go and change EVERYTHING?????
>
> > > Is there a way to make 2007 editions look and work like previous editions?
> > > While I await the instructions, I'm going back to my 2000 NT machine. If
> > > there are no instructions, this computer is getting returned ASAP.
>
> > > Thanks.
>
> > > Crystal
>
> > --
>
> > Dave Peterson- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Interesting that you mentioned AUTOFILTER specifically. I just spent a couple
of hours looking over the 2007 Excel application. Primarily comparing it to
my inbstruction guide for Excel XP. AUTOFILTER is one thing I could NOT find.
Found filtering and sorting. I was able to apply the filter to selected
columns.

?? Have you actually found something labeled autofilters, or are you
referring to the filter and sorting options? The reason I ask is that another
user is having trouble with AUTOFILTERS in her 2007 version, and I can't find
autofilter anywhere. Please point me to this option in 2007.

"iliace" wrote:

> Make a custom ribbon, or have someone do it for you. Distribute it
> office-wide. Office 2007 makes it much easier to implement such
> solutions. I have "My Tab" just to the left of my "Home" tab
> (implemented as a start-up add-in workbook), and while I'm pretty
> fluent with the standard ribbon commands by now, I find that I use
> these commands 95% of the time:
>
> * PivotTable
> * Table (well worth the switch to 07 just for this one)
> * Paste sub-menu
> * Conditional Formatting
> * Auto-Filter
> * Sort
> * Name Manager
> * Font group (the thing that comes up as floatey when you right-click
> on cells)
> * External Data group
> * Formula Auditing group
>
> At 1280 resolution (not wide-screen), all these fit on the ribbon and
> make it extremely convenient. The other common features (New, Open,
> Print, Print Preview, etc) are right below in the Quick Access
> Toolbar.
>
> It doesn't take 6 months, I don't care how old you are. Not 20
> minutes either, but certainly not 6 months - nowhere near that.
>
> I've asked many colleagues who've made the switch, particularly ones
> who are not computer-friendly, what they like most about the new
> version. Their answer: "Everything is better! I can find stuff!"
> With Word, the new system is even more intuitive - not right away for
> someone like me or you who is used to the old version, but certainly
> for less experienced users. I wouldn't be so quick to jump to
> conclusions about "older users" as you call them.
>
>
> On Sep 11, 6:50 am, Crystal <Crys...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Thanks! Elsewhere somebody wrote something to the effect of "oh just take 20
> > minutes to learn the new system" and it's not that simple. I HAD everything
> > arranged for the way I need to use it. This new "ribbon" thing has forced me
> > back to using all the control keys that my fingers remember because I can't
> > find the commands graphically. Perhaps in 6 months I can schedule some time
> > to learn the "ribbon." More likely, I'll wait 2 or 3 more years to consider
> > upgrading from Win '98 and 2000 to XP.
> >
> > I'm absolutely letting our IT department know that upgrading to Vista and
> > 2007 Office is a VERY BAD idea. Others in our company, especially the older
> > ones, are SIGNIFICANTLY more averse to change than I am and are likely to
> > stop using the computer entirely.
> >
> > ~ Crystal
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dave Peterson" wrote:
> > > There are third party programs that display the "classic" menus:
> >
> > > Patrick Schmid's ribbon customizer:
> > >http://pschmid.net/index.php
> >
> > > (or directly)
> > >http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...r/download.php
> >
> > > From the documentation page:
> > >http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...etourpart3.php
> >
> > > Dick Kusleika reviewed a couple:
> > >http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/arch...ward-into-the-...
> >
> > > Crystal wrote:
> >
> > > > I HATE the new 2007 editions of MS Office Excel and Word. I can't find any
> > > > of the commands I used to know by heart. Every time I try to use the new
> > > > computer I want to cry or throw it out the window. This is totally an
> > > > unfamiliar problem for me because
> > > > 1) I grew up with a mouse in my hand,
> > > > 2) I have a minor in Computer Science, and
> > > > 3) my friends call me "Data" because I'm typically so UNemotional.
> >
> > > > WHY ON EARTH did microsofties decide to go and change EVERYTHING?????
> >
> > > > Is there a way to make 2007 editions look and work like previous editions?
> > > > While I await the instructions, I'm going back to my 2000 NT machine. If
> > > > there are no instructions, this computer is getting returned ASAP.
> >
> > > > Thanks.
> >
> > > > Crystal
> >
> > > --
> >
> > > Dave Peterson- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>
>

Hi

On the Data tab, clicking Filter applies Autofilter to the range you have
selected.
Use the dropdowns to filter your requirement.

One a filter is applied, the Clear icon to the right of Filter is activated,
to clear all filters in one go.

--
Regards
Roger Govier



"JR Hester" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:C3FEDB0F-8198-413B-BD91-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Interesting that you mentioned AUTOFILTER specifically. I just spent a
> couple
> of hours looking over the 2007 Excel application. Primarily comparing it
> to
> my inbstruction guide for Excel XP. AUTOFILTER is one thing I could NOT
> find.
> Found filtering and sorting. I was able to apply the filter to selected
> columns.
>
> ?? Have you actually found something labeled autofilters, or are you
> referring to the filter and sorting options? The reason I ask is that
> another
> user is having trouble with AUTOFILTERS in her 2007 version, and I can't
> find
> autofilter anywhere. Please point me to this option in 2007.
>
> "iliace" wrote:
>
>> Make a custom ribbon, or have someone do it for you. Distribute it
>> office-wide. Office 2007 makes it much easier to implement such
>> solutions. I have "My Tab" just to the left of my "Home" tab
>> (implemented as a start-up add-in workbook), and while I'm pretty
>> fluent with the standard ribbon commands by now, I find that I use
>> these commands 95% of the time:
>>
>> * PivotTable
>> * Table (well worth the switch to 07 just for this one)
>> * Paste sub-menu
>> * Conditional Formatting
>> * Auto-Filter
>> * Sort
>> * Name Manager
>> * Font group (the thing that comes up as floatey when you right-click
>> on cells)
>> * External Data group
>> * Formula Auditing group
>>
>> At 1280 resolution (not wide-screen), all these fit on the ribbon and
>> make it extremely convenient. The other common features (New, Open,
>> Print, Print Preview, etc) are right below in the Quick Access
>> Toolbar.
>>
>> It doesn't take 6 months, I don't care how old you are. Not 20
>> minutes either, but certainly not 6 months - nowhere near that.
>>
>> I've asked many colleagues who've made the switch, particularly ones
>> who are not computer-friendly, what they like most about the new
>> version. Their answer: "Everything is better! I can find stuff!"
>> With Word, the new system is even more intuitive - not right away for
>> someone like me or you who is used to the old version, but certainly
>> for less experienced users. I wouldn't be so quick to jump to
>> conclusions about "older users" as you call them.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 6:50 am, Crystal <Crys...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks! Elsewhere somebody wrote something to the effect of "oh just
>> > take 20
>> > minutes to learn the new system" and it's not that simple. I HAD
>> > everything
>> > arranged for the way I need to use it. This new "ribbon" thing has
>> > forced me
>> > back to using all the control keys that my fingers remember because I
>> > can't
>> > find the commands graphically. Perhaps in 6 months I can schedule some
>> > time
>> > to learn the "ribbon." More likely, I'll wait 2 or 3 more years to
>> > consider
>> > upgrading from Win '98 and 2000 to XP.
>> >
>> > I'm absolutely letting our IT department know that upgrading to Vista
>> > and
>> > 2007 Office is a VERY BAD idea. Others in our company, especially the
>> > older
>> > ones, are SIGNIFICANTLY more averse to change than I am and are likely
>> > to
>> > stop using the computer entirely.
>> >
>> > ~ Crystal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dave Peterson" wrote:
>> > > There are third party programs that display the "classic" menus:
>> >
>> > > Patrick Schmid's ribbon customizer:
>> > >http://pschmid.net/index.php
>> >
>> > > (or directly)
>> > >http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...r/download.php
>> >
>> > > From the documentation page:
>> > >http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...etourpart3.php
>> >
>> > > Dick Kusleika reviewed a couple:
>> > >http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/arch...ward-into-the-...
>> >
>> > > Crystal wrote:
>> >
>> > > > I HATE the new 2007 editions of MS Office Excel and Word. I can't
>> > > > find any
>> > > > of the commands I used to know by heart. Every time I try to use
>> > > > the new
>> > > > computer I want to cry or throw it out the window. This is totally
>> > > > an
>> > > > unfamiliar problem for me because
>> > > > 1) I grew up with a mouse in my hand,
>> > > > 2) I have a minor in Computer Science, and
>> > > > 3) my friends call me "Data" because I'm typically so UNemotional.
>> >
>> > > > WHY ON EARTH did microsofties decide to go and change
>> > > > EVERYTHING?????
>> >
>> > > > Is there a way to make 2007 editions look and work like previous
>> > > > editions?
>> > > > While I await the instructions, I'm going back to my 2000 NT
>> > > > machine. If
>> > > > there are no instructions, this computer is getting returned ASAP.
>> >
>> > > > Thanks.
>> >
>> > > > Crystal
>> >
>> > > --
>> >
>> > > Dave Peterson- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>>
>>

I too absolutely detest the new 2007 user interface. I find it extremely
rigid and un-customizable. In 2000 Excel, I used to have about 5 different
toolbars with a total of about 45 command icons. About 25 of these icons I
used regularly, and the other 20 or so were occasionally used. The rest of
the excel commands I didn't need, but I knew where to look for them in the
menus if I ever did need them. I had every toolbar and icon exactly how I
wanted it, and exactly where I wanted it.
In the 2007 system I'm just starting to use, there is only one toolbar, the
"quick access" bar, that I can't put wherever I want, and can only handle one
icon after another, after another. I can't split thing up into multiple
toolbars or drag different toolbars to different parts of the screen.

For the menu-based commands, and let's face it, the "ribbon" is the same
system as the old menus, the menus are now cluttered, and I have to sort
through dozens of options to find the one I wanted.

To Autofit a cell's column width for example, Instead of the 2000 method of
going to the format menu, scanning a short list of 7 options, picking column,
and picking autofit from another short sublist of 5 items, in the 2007 method
I now have to go to "home" (a mashing together of edit and format commands?
Why name it "home" instead of "edit"? to confuse people like me who've been
loyal customers for 15 years? And same goes for changing the "file" menu to
an un-named graphical symbol... as practical to users as trying to find a
Prince album in the store after he renamed himself with a symbol in the 90's)
look at a ribbon that has about 42 icons on it (none of which can be
customized as far as I can tell), navigate my eyes through the 42 icon
cluster to the "cells" area, pick "format" from 3 options, and then pick
autofit from a sub-menu list of 12 options. Every menu, from home to insert
to view is a cluster-bomb of icons, most of which I'll never need, that I
have to navigate through to get to the commands I do need.

I feel like I'm having to learn a more complicated 2nd language, when I was
already extremely happy with and fluent in the 1st language that I spoke for
15 years. Not good for efficiency. Are they daring me to try a macintosh for
the 1st time in my life? I have a feeling I'll either ask my IT guy to
install an older version of Office or try one of the add-ons that gives the
old-style feel.




"Crystal" wrote:

> I HATE the new 2007 editions of MS Office Excel and Word. I can't find any
> of the commands I used to know by heart. Every time I try to use the new
> computer I want to cry or throw it out the window. This is totally an
> unfamiliar problem for me because
> 1) I grew up with a mouse in my hand,
> 2) I have a minor in Computer Science, and
> 3) my friends call me "Data" because I'm typically so UNemotional.
>
> WHY ON EARTH did microsofties decide to go and change EVERYTHING?????
>
> Is there a way to make 2007 editions look and work like previous editions?
> While I await the instructions, I'm going back to my 2000 NT machine. If
> there are no instructions, this computer is getting returned ASAP.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Crystal

Hi

The ribbon is fine, once you get used to it.
If in the meantime, you need to access the "old" menu style, you could
download the free add-in from Shah Shailesh.
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/
download Excel Menu 2003
--
Regards
Roger Govier



"jj_boston" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:951EE642-BE19-4370-9875-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I too absolutely detest the new 2007 user interface. I find it extremely
> rigid and un-customizable. In 2000 Excel, I used to have about 5 different
> toolbars with a total of about 45 command icons. About 25 of these icons I
> used regularly, and the other 20 or so were occasionally used. The rest of
> the excel commands I didn't need, but I knew where to look for them in the
> menus if I ever did need them. I had every toolbar and icon exactly how I
> wanted it, and exactly where I wanted it.
> In the 2007 system I'm just starting to use, there is only one toolbar,
> the
> "quick access" bar, that I can't put wherever I want, and can only handle
> one
> icon after another, after another. I can't split thing up into multiple
> toolbars or drag different toolbars to different parts of the screen.
>
> For the menu-based commands, and let's face it, the "ribbon" is the same
> system as the old menus, the menus are now cluttered, and I have to sort
> through dozens of options to find the one I wanted.
>
> To Autofit a cell's column width for example, Instead of the 2000 method
> of
> going to the format menu, scanning a short list of 7 options, picking
> column,
> and picking autofit from another short sublist of 5 items, in the 2007
> method
> I now have to go to "home" (a mashing together of edit and format
> commands?
> Why name it "home" instead of "edit"? to confuse people like me who've
> been
> loyal customers for 15 years? And same goes for changing the "file" menu
> to
> an un-named graphical symbol... as practical to users as trying to find a
> Prince album in the store after he renamed himself with a symbol in the
> 90's)
> look at a ribbon that has about 42 icons on it (none of which can be
> customized as far as I can tell), navigate my eyes through the 42 icon
> cluster to the "cells" area, pick "format" from 3 options, and then pick
> autofit from a sub-menu list of 12 options. Every menu, from home to
> insert
> to view is a cluster-bomb of icons, most of which I'll never need, that I
> have to navigate through to get to the commands I do need.
>
> I feel like I'm having to learn a more complicated 2nd language, when I
> was
> already extremely happy with and fluent in the 1st language that I spoke
> for
> 15 years. Not good for efficiency. Are they daring me to try a macintosh
> for
> the 1st time in my life? I have a feeling I'll either ask my IT guy to
> install an older version of Office or try one of the add-ons that gives
> the
> old-style feel.
>
>
>
>
> "Crystal" wrote:
>
>> I HATE the new 2007 editions of MS Office Excel and Word. I can't find
>> any
>> of the commands I used to know by heart. Every time I try to use the new
>> computer I want to cry or throw it out the window. This is totally an
>> unfamiliar problem for me because
>> 1) I grew up with a mouse in my hand,
>> 2) I have a minor in Computer Science, and
>> 3) my friends call me "Data" because I'm typically so UNemotional.
>>
>> WHY ON EARTH did microsofties decide to go and change EVERYTHING?????
>>
>> Is there a way to make 2007 editions look and work like previous
>> editions?
>> While I await the instructions, I'm going back to my 2000 NT machine. If
>> there are no instructions, this computer is getting returned ASAP.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Crystal

the ribbon is NOT fine, it's rubbish. A complete failure as far as
I'm concerned.
I hope M$ is forced soon to re-establish the old menu and toolbars
system.