Try this in calc.exe in "standard" as opposed to "scientific" mode

20^2 + 4*3*287

Calculator gives the erroneous answer of 347844

After pressing the first times (after 4) you can see that it's doing

(20^2 + 4)*3*287

In "scientific" mode, however, it gives the correct answer.

Getting different answers just because calculator is in a different
"mode" is inconsistent.

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"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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: Try this in calc.exe in "standard" as opposed to "scientific" mode
:
: 20^2 + 4*3*287
:
: Calculator gives the erroneous answer of 347844
:
: After pressing the first times (after 4) you can see that it's doing
:
: (20^2 + 4)*3*287
:
: In "scientific" mode, however, it gives the correct answer.
:
: Getting different answers just because calculator is in a different
: "mode" is inconsistent.
:

P.S. I guess this is another of Microsoft's "by design" "features"

<sigh>

> 20^2 + 4*3*287

And how exactly did you perform the exponential calculation in standard mode
? Note that there is no x^y button available in the standard mode and using
the keyboard to type in ^ (SHIFT+6) does not substitute for that.

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"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Try this in calc.exe in "standard" as opposed to "scientific" mode
>
> 20^2 + 4*3*287
>
> Calculator gives the erroneous answer of 347844
>
> After pressing the first times (after 4) you can see that it's doing
>
> (20^2 + 4)*3*287
>
> In "scientific" mode, however, it gives the correct answer.
>
> Getting different answers just because calculator is in a different
> "mode" is inconsistent.
>

I typed 20*20

"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in essage
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> Try this in calc.exe in "standard" as opposed to "scientific" mode
>
> 20^2 + 4*3*287
>
> Calculator gives the erroneous answer of 347844
>
> After pressing the first times (after 4) you can see that it's doing
>
> (20^2 + 4)*3*287
>
> In "scientific" mode, however, it gives the correct answer.
>
> Getting different answers just because calculator is in a different
> "mode" is inconsistent.

Sorry, but you're wrong.
In standard mode calc.exe is acting as a simple 4-function pocket calculator
(with memory) which performs the calculations in the order in which you
enter the numbers and operands. It is therefore giving the correct answer.
To achieve what you want in standard mode, you should have entered:
[MC] 20 * 20 = [M+] 4 * 3 * 287 + [MR] =

Try it with a real 4-function calculator and see for yourself.

Dear Mark,

Thanks for your answer. I found a 4 function calculator on the web and
I can confirm that I get the answer of 347844.

However, there is no mention of this change in behaviour from a 4
function to a "BEDMAS aware" calculator, when switching from Standard
to Scientific, in Help > Help Topics. I feel that some appropriate
documentation should be added.

Regards,

Patrick

>> Thanks for your answer. I found a 4 function calculator on the web and I
>> can confirm that I get the answer of 347844.
Try using a physical four function calculator.

There is a reason why there are standard and scientific views. Also, in the
help it does mention to switch to the scientific view to perform scientific
calculations. I quote:

"To perform a scientific calculation:

1) On the View menu, click Scientific. <----This is what i am referring to.
2) Click a number system.
3) Click the display size you want to use, and then continue with your
calculation. "



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"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Dear Mark,
>
> Thanks for your answer. I found a 4 function calculator on the web and
> I can confirm that I get the answer of 347844.
>
> However, there is no mention of this change in behaviour from a 4
> function to a "BEDMAS aware" calculator, when switching from Standard
> to Scientific, in Help > Help Topics. I feel that some appropriate
> documentation should be added.
>
> Regards,
>
> Patrick
>

Hi Anando,

> "To perform a scientific calculation:
>
> 1) On the View menu, click Scientific. <----This is what i am referring to.

This is much to subtle! The user has no reason to believe that BEDMAS
will be obeyed only for a "scientific" calculation from this
documentation. Anyway, since when was "20^2 + 4*3*287" a scientific
calculation ? All I see is basic mathematical operators.

Regards,

Patrick