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      7th Aug 2006
Hello,

I am wanting to purchase and install window 2003 server software. However,
we have a unique setup were we only use the server for DHCP services (for
aprox. 500 machines). We remotely access the server from our home offices
using Remote Desktop. The users never (they can't even see the server) the
services on the server, except for DHCP requests. Do I still need a CAL for
each user?

Cheers,

Mac
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      8th Aug 2006

RMac (donotspam) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am wanting to purchase and install window 2003 server software. However,
> we have a unique setup were we only use the server for DHCP services (for
> aprox. 500 machines). We remotely access the server from our home offices
> using Remote Desktop. The users never (they can't even see the server) the
> services on the server, except for DHCP requests. Do I still need a CAL for
> each user?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mac
> --
> We are not Borg...


 
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      8th Aug 2006
Roop,

I don't think your reply posted.

Mac
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"roop" wrote:

>
> RMac (donotspam) wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am wanting to purchase and install window 2003 server software. However,
> > we have a unique setup were we only use the server for DHCP services (for
> > aprox. 500 machines). We remotely access the server from our home offices
> > using Remote Desktop. The users never (they can't even see the server) the
> > services on the server, except for DHCP requests. Do I still need a CAL for
> > each user?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mac
> > --
> > We are not Borg...

>
>

 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
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      10th Aug 2006


In news:7878D4CF-5C45-4B08-9975-(E-Mail Removed),
RMac <(E-Mail Removed).(donotspam)> typed:
> Hello,
>
> I am wanting to purchase and install window 2003 server software.
> However, we have a unique setup were we only use the server for DHCP
> services (for aprox. 500 machines). We remotely access the server
> from our home offices using Remote Desktop. The users never (they
> can't even see the server) the services on the server, except for
> DHCP requests. Do I still need a CAL for each user?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mac


My first question is, why do you want to buy & install Win2003 just for
DHCP? That sounds like an incredible waste of money/resources.
My second question is, what does "remotely access the server from our home
offices" mean - Terminal Services?


 
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      10th Aug 2006
Hello,

Thank you for your response. Provisioning. We have Call Center personel
(non techs) who access and build scopes for our interenet users. The MS
interface is easy for them to use.

Remotely access, that is to provision the DHCP server. Our call center and
geographically displaced from the servers. We use Remote Desktop to connect
and provision the DHCP scopes.

I'm presuming that Terminal Services are used by Remote Desktop?

Cheers,

mac

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We are not Borg...


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

>
>
> In news:7878D4CF-5C45-4B08-9975-(E-Mail Removed),
> RMac <(E-Mail Removed).(donotspam)> typed:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am wanting to purchase and install window 2003 server software.
> > However, we have a unique setup were we only use the server for DHCP
> > services (for aprox. 500 machines). We remotely access the server
> > from our home offices using Remote Desktop. The users never (they
> > can't even see the server) the services on the server, except for
> > DHCP requests. Do I still need a CAL for each user?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mac

>
> My first question is, why do you want to buy & install Win2003 just for
> DHCP? That sounds like an incredible waste of money/resources.
> My second question is, what does "remotely access the server from our home
> offices" mean - Terminal Services?
>
>
>

 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
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      11th Aug 2006

"RMac" <(E-Mail Removed).(donotspam)> wrote in message
news:37A6685D-6AE4-4377-A9F9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your response. Provisioning. We have Call Center personel
> (non techs) who access and build scopes for our interenet users. The MS
> interface is easy for them to use.


OK. I find this an odd choice still, as there are so many alternatives, but
that's no matter. Re CALs for users, I doubt you need them, but you should
call Microsoft licensing for this, to make sure you get the correct answer
from the source.
>
> Remotely access, that is to provision the DHCP server. Our call center
> and
> geographically displaced from the servers. We use Remote Desktop to
> connect
> and provision the DHCP scopes.
>
> I'm presuming that Terminal Services are used by Remote Desktop?


No. Remote Desktop is for admin only use (which it sounds like you're using)
and TS is something else entirely - it's RD but for users to use/share as a
big fat desktop, essentially. You're fine without it.

>
> Cheers,
>
> mac
>
> --
> We are not Borg...
>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> In news:7878D4CF-5C45-4B08-9975-(E-Mail Removed),
>> RMac <(E-Mail Removed).(donotspam)> typed:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am wanting to purchase and install window 2003 server software.
>> > However, we have a unique setup were we only use the server for DHCP
>> > services (for aprox. 500 machines). We remotely access the server
>> > from our home offices using Remote Desktop. The users never (they
>> > can't even see the server) the services on the server, except for
>> > DHCP requests. Do I still need a CAL for each user?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Mac

>>
>> My first question is, why do you want to buy & install Win2003 just for
>> DHCP? That sounds like an incredible waste of money/resources.
>> My second question is, what does "remotely access the server from our
>> home
>> offices" mean - Terminal Services?
>>
>>
>>



 
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      11th Aug 2006
I don't disagree with your comment concerning our choice of DHCP servers.
What other options did you have in mind? We have one site that uses Cisco's
CNR. Not particularly resiliant, but it gets the job done.

I think our application is not the typical enterprise. Each user has their
own scope (and virtual network). I would love to hear what you have say.

Cheers,

Mac
--
We are not Borg...


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

>
> "RMac" <(E-Mail Removed).(donotspam)> wrote in message
> news:37A6685D-6AE4-4377-A9F9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello,
> >
> > Thank you for your response. Provisioning. We have Call Center personel
> > (non techs) who access and build scopes for our interenet users. The MS
> > interface is easy for them to use.

>
> OK. I find this an odd choice still, as there are so many alternatives, but
> that's no matter. Re CALs for users, I doubt you need them, but you should
> call Microsoft licensing for this, to make sure you get the correct answer
> from the source.
> >
> > Remotely access, that is to provision the DHCP server. Our call center
> > and
> > geographically displaced from the servers. We use Remote Desktop to
> > connect
> > and provision the DHCP scopes.
> >
> > I'm presuming that Terminal Services are used by Remote Desktop?

>
> No. Remote Desktop is for admin only use (which it sounds like you're using)
> and TS is something else entirely - it's RD but for users to use/share as a
> big fat desktop, essentially. You're fine without it.
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > mac
> >
> > --
> > We are not Borg...
> >
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> In news:7878D4CF-5C45-4B08-9975-(E-Mail Removed),
> >> RMac <(E-Mail Removed).(donotspam)> typed:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I am wanting to purchase and install window 2003 server software.
> >> > However, we have a unique setup were we only use the server for DHCP
> >> > services (for aprox. 500 machines). We remotely access the server
> >> > from our home offices using Remote Desktop. The users never (they
> >> > can't even see the server) the services on the server, except for
> >> > DHCP requests. Do I still need a CAL for each user?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Mac
> >>
> >> My first question is, why do you want to buy & install Win2003 just for
> >> DHCP? That sounds like an incredible waste of money/resources.
> >> My second question is, what does "remotely access the server from our
> >> home
> >> offices" mean - Terminal Services?
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

 
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      11th Aug 2006

"RMac" <(E-Mail Removed).(donotspam)> wrote in message
news:805CF678-B4C7-4B7B-A843-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I don't disagree with your comment concerning our choice of DHCP servers.
> What other options did you have in mind? We have one site that uses
> Cisco's
> CNR. Not particularly resiliant, but it gets the job done.
>
> I think our application is not the typical enterprise. Each user has
> their
> own scope (and virtual network). I would love to hear what you have say.


I'm afraid I may be getting a little out of my depth <blush>. Seriously, I'm
not sure what your needs are, nor why the configuration you're using is in
place/what it's used for. Try posting with more detail in a networking group
to see what you can see.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mac
> --
> We are not Borg...
>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
>>
>> "RMac" <(E-Mail Removed).(donotspam)> wrote in message
>> news:37A6685D-6AE4-4377-A9F9-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Thank you for your response. Provisioning. We have Call Center
>> > personel
>> > (non techs) who access and build scopes for our interenet users. The
>> > MS
>> > interface is easy for them to use.

>>
>> OK. I find this an odd choice still, as there are so many alternatives,
>> but
>> that's no matter. Re CALs for users, I doubt you need them, but you
>> should
>> call Microsoft licensing for this, to make sure you get the correct
>> answer
>> from the source.
>> >
>> > Remotely access, that is to provision the DHCP server. Our call center
>> > and
>> > geographically displaced from the servers. We use Remote Desktop to
>> > connect
>> > and provision the DHCP scopes.
>> >
>> > I'm presuming that Terminal Services are used by Remote Desktop?

>>
>> No. Remote Desktop is for admin only use (which it sounds like you're
>> using)
>> and TS is something else entirely - it's RD but for users to use/share as
>> a
>> big fat desktop, essentially. You're fine without it.
>>
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > mac
>> >
>> > --
>> > We are not Borg...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In news:7878D4CF-5C45-4B08-9975-(E-Mail Removed),
>> >> RMac <(E-Mail Removed).(donotspam)> typed:
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am wanting to purchase and install window 2003 server software.
>> >> > However, we have a unique setup were we only use the server for DHCP
>> >> > services (for aprox. 500 machines). We remotely access the server
>> >> > from our home offices using Remote Desktop. The users never (they
>> >> > can't even see the server) the services on the server, except for
>> >> > DHCP requests. Do I still need a CAL for each user?
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >
>> >> > Mac
>> >>
>> >> My first question is, why do you want to buy & install Win2003 just
>> >> for
>> >> DHCP? That sounds like an incredible waste of money/resources.
>> >> My second question is, what does "remotely access the server from our
>> >> home
>> >> offices" mean - Terminal Services?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



 
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