Hello,

According to dutch law, consumers are protected for 6 months. If hardware
fails within 6 months then the law assumes the product had flaws from the
start.

Computers can die from overheat.

Overheat is more likely to occur in the summer, especially for those living
in houses/appartments which get hot in the summer.

If your computer manages to survive the summer at maximum temperature and
maximum strain... then maybe it will survive a bit longer... there is no
real garantuee though... it could fail the next summer !

However this is something to keep in mind:

When it does fail, return it immediatly otherwise you might just be a couple
of days to late... and then the warranty or law no longer applies.

A nice troll I like this one

Bye,
Skybuck.

On Sep 14, 8:38*am, "Skybuck Flying" <BloodySh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> According to dutch law, consumers are protected for 6 months. If hardware
> fails within 6 months then the law assumes the product had flaws from the
> start.
>
> Computers can die from overheat.
>
> Overheat is more likely to occur in the summer, especially for those living
> in houses/appartments which get hot in the summer.
>
> If your computer manages to survive the summer at maximum temperature and
> maximum strain... then maybe it will survive a bit longer... there is no
> real garantuee though... it could fail the next summer !
>
> However this is something to keep in mind:
>
> When it does fail, return it immediatly otherwise you might just be a couple
> of days to late... and then the warranty or law no longer applies.
>
> A nice troll I like this one
>
> Bye,
> * Skybuck.



De volgende tijd probeert een " brandwond in test" - stel
onophoudelijk uw computer voor verscheidene dagen in werking

Next time try a "burn in test" - run your computer continuously for
several days

Michael

I also propose that all computer buyers, and other hardware buyers that have
had a failure related to overheat join me in this new way of buying
computers and other hardware.

Let us all buy computers only during spring and summer, and let us not buy
computers during the autumn and winter.

Maybe this will force the law makers to increase the time to one year at
least, maybe even two... otherwise computer sales would plumit in the autumn
and winter. And maybe plumitting sales in autumn and winter would be bad and
enough reason to do something about it

Bye,
Skybuck =D

Michael <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> De volgende tijd probeert een " brandwond in test" - stel
> onophoudelijk uw computer voor verscheidene dagen in werking

Een " brandwond in test" ja dat lijkt me wel een goede oplossing
voor Skybuck!

Wie mag die dan uitvoeren?

But then again, maybe prices would then start rising in the spring and
summer...

Maybe "they"; the evil "overheating hardware sellers" already do that ?!
LOL.

Bye,
Skybuck =D

I also hope review sites will start doing long term heat tests.

Place the product in a large oven or so... and frie it for a while... at
least at 30 degrees celcius "room temperature".

Also throw some dust in for kicks... to see if that becomes a problem

Then run some state of the art game for 24 hours 7 days a week...

If the product/computer manages to survive 6 months in there then we have a
deal !

Bye,
Skybuck =D

> Maybe this will force the law makers to increase the time to one year at
> least, maybe even two...

Zolang jij alles maar graties krijgt he, belastinggeldverslindende nietsnut!

Bm

het mag in deze groep gewoon in het Nederlands hoor, heel irritant steeds
dat Engelse gelul van je....ging he tnou nog ergens over, maar NEE hoor.
Nog steeds dat gezeur over je pc van 1600 euri die oververhit is, ben toch
bang dat het meer aan jou onkunde ligt dan aan die pc...

Good that your start about that.

When building one's own PC this requires a certain ammount of
experimentation.

Because every PC has the potential to be unique.

There are so many PC components that it becomes pretty difficult for
manufactures to garantuee that their products work under all circumstances
with different components.

However for NVIDIA this excuse cannot be used.

NVIDIA has repeatedly promoted SLI... = many graphics cards right next to
each other.

This is very bad and will surely kill the motherboard on the long run.

Another example is this orientation of the Scythe Zipang CPU cooler.

It can be mounted in different directions... and the manufacturer wasn't
sure what orientation is best... it depends on the case, literally, the
computer case.

Still even this is a poor excuse for Scythe... the number of combinations is
very limited...

Only 4 combinations possible... they could have done different airflow
tests... with different combinations... granted the number of combinations
would rise... but still within doable parameters.

However not everybody can be as smart as me ! LOL.

I hope Scythe learns from this post and from now on does a certain number of
tests for their coolers then they can supply data in table as follows:

CPU Cooler Orientation | Back airflow | Top airflow | Side airflow

Numbers follow here......---->...... etc.

Assuming computer case manufactures publish this information as well then I
as a computer builder could have selected the proper orientation from the
start.

And now expensive-computer-killing-tests would have been needed !

Building computers yourself brings risks.... buying a pre-build computer has
risks just as well... see Dell computers beheheh.

However in the two examples I have given I find that I have been given risks
which are too high and could easily been evoided by the manufacturers
themselfes by proper testing and proper information supplieage

Therefore I believe the manufacturers are slacking, lacking and are to be
blamed !

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bf96c$4aae7a0a$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Good that your start about that.
>
> When building one's own PC this requires a certain ammount of
> experimentation.
>
> Because every PC has the potential to be unique.
>
> There are so many PC components that it becomes pretty difficult for
> manufactures to garantuee that their products work under all circumstances
> with different components.
>
> However for NVIDIA this excuse cannot be used.
>
> NVIDIA has repeatedly promoted SLI... = many graphics cards right next to
> each other.
>
> This is very bad and will surely kill the motherboard on the long run.
>
> Another example is this orientation of the Scythe Zipang CPU cooler.
>
> It can be mounted in different directions... and the manufacturer wasn't
> sure what orientation is best... it depends on the case, literally, the
> computer case.
>
> Still even this is a poor excuse for Scythe... the number of combinations
> is very limited...
>
> Only 4 combinations possible... they could have done different airflow
> tests... with different combinations... granted the number of combinations
> would rise... but still within doable parameters.
>
> However not everybody can be as smart as me ! LOL.
>
> I hope Scythe learns from this post and from now on does a certain number
> of tests for their coolers then they can supply data in table as follows:
>
> CPU Cooler Orientation | Back airflow | Top airflow | Side airflow
>
> Numbers follow here......---->...... etc.
>
> Assuming computer case manufactures publish this information as well then
> I as a computer builder could have selected the proper orientation from
> the start.
>
> And now expensive-computer-killing-tests would have been needed !

Little typo corrected (now=not)

And not expensive-computer-killing-tests would have been needed !

(I make that typo mistake more often it seems LOL )

>
> Building computers yourself brings risks.... buying a pre-build computer
> has risks just as well... see Dell computers beheheh.
>
> However in the two examples I have given I find that I have been given
> risks which are too high and could easily been evoided by the
> manufacturers themselfes by proper testing and proper information
> supplieage
>
> Therefore I believe the manufacturers are slacking, lacking and are to be
> blamed !
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>