On Sep 15, 12:03 pm, Rob <no...@nowhere.nothere.com> wrote:
> On 15/09/2011 00:36, Industrial One wrote:
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> > On Sep 14, 8:45 pm, James D Andrews <jamesdandr...@att.net> wrote:
> >> Jack Toff banged his head on his keyboard to write :
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> >>> Google is your friend:
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> >>>http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=...cp=12&gs_id=1x...
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> >>> On 9/14/2011 8:18 AM, Industrial One wrote:
> >>>> So I tried WinToFlash but it failed after the second step due to
> >>>> "missing HAL.DLL" and if I tried to boot from the hard disk and let
> >>>> installation continue as I would when using my CD it would give me a
> >>>> disk readability error.
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> >>>> The main reason I'm doing this is cuz my XP CD after only 3 years and
> >>>> a usage of only maybe 3 times a year is already decaying into a
> >>>> corrupted mess of **** like all optical media is destined to do within
> >>>> 10 years. Useless.
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> >>>> So I'm moving a fresh ISO image to my USB drive to hopefully prevent
> >>>> this problem in the future.
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> >>>> I'm curious about the technical background behind this though. What
> >>>> exactly is done to make a Flash drive bootable? Can I not just copy
> >>>> the contents on the USB and boot from it like I would a CD?
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> >>>> Thanks in advance.
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> >> Thanks for the heads-up about WintoFlash. I was going to try it. Have
> >> you tried re-downloading the program and running again just to rule out
> >> something got clunked in the download? Also possible that your Windows
> >> disk is already too damaged to fully copy?
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> >> Since the process involved is supposedly a little more complicated than
> >> just putting an ISO on the flash drive, or so I'm told, this may be
> >> your best bet:
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> >> Passcape ISO Burner
> >> (In addition to making ISO files, this supposedly also makes bootable
> >> USB drives using any ISO)
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> >>http://www.freewarefiles.com/Passcap...ram_64120.html
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> >> NOTE: I haven't been able to fully test this since my test computer's
> >> PSU just died, but the Passcape is an executable (No install) and
> >> claimed to have made the Boot USB successfully on my test USB drive.
> >> However, still not sure if this will do the Windows disks, but may be
> >> worth a try.
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> >> --
> >> -There are some who call me...
> >> Jim
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> >> It's a dangerous business, going out your door. You step onto the road,
> >> and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be
> >> swept off to.
> >> -Samwise Gamgee quoting Bilbo Baggins, edited
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> > I just tried Passcape and I didn't even get to the first step because
> > it returned a NTDLR not found error. At least with WinToFlash it was
> > able to load all the system files and proceed to the second step.
> > UltraISO worked a little bit past the first step before complaining
> > that TXTSETUP.SIF is corrupted, which it isn't.
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> > Sigh... I don't understand what these programs actually do and why all
> > of them that I tried so far ****ed at least one thing up to prevent it
> > from actually working. Why is it so complicated to boot off a USB
> > stick? Is there a standard or isn't there?
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> > PS. I did not copy from my corrupted CD to the USB stick, I downloaded
> > another ISO. I wouldn't be that stupid to continue using a corrupted
> > installation.
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> First thing to do is copy your CD. If that won't work, it is
> damaged and you are wasting your time.
> Once you have copied the origianl CD, try these methods:http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm
> I had trouble with a custom PE disc and WiNToBootic was the only
> thing that worked (but I had to make an ISO from the disc first.)
> One problem is that booting from USB depends on motherboard BIOS
> support and, if that exists, setting it up properly.
> In other words, no, there is no standard to adhere to so blaming
> software authors who provide free stuff is simply unfair.
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> Rob
As I said, I downloaded a brand new ISO image of Windows XP setup
since my old one was corrupted. I burned it to a DVD right now and it
works fine.
That site you gave me sometimes charges for download links, none of
the programs on it worked and the rest of the methods are confusing,
keep talking about floppies and want me to use a floppy, are
instructed for Windows7 installation instead of XP and so on.
If there is no standard then what's the point of making USB drives
bootable at all if they'll be unreliable? CDs and DVDs have a
universal standard and either work or don't.
On Sep 15, 12:55*pm, "Zaphod Beeblebrox"
<Zaphod.Arisztid.Beebleb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Industrial One" <industrial_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:6925c6a8-8e97-4677-b294-(E-Mail Removed)...
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> > Sigh... I don't understand what these programs actually do and why
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> > of them that I tried so far ****** at least one thing up to prevent
> > it
> > from actually working. Why is it so complicated to boot off a USB
> > stick? Is there a standard or isn't there?
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> Yes, there is a standard to boot from USB, and given the error message
> you are getting you technically *are* actually booting, you are just
> not able to finish loading the OS (I know, a distinction without a
> difference from your perspective).
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> The problem is that XP and the Windows PE (Preinstallation
> Environment) used by XP were never intended to boot from USB - the
> process resets the USB controller before loading the OS USB drivers,
USB controller?
> so it loses the ability to read the USB drive right as it is getting
> ready to load the drivers... *These programs are supposed to change
> the way XP / PE handle USB boot devices, but apparently they are
> somewhat flawed.
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> As others have mentioned, with XP your best bet is to make a copy of
> the CD periodically to keep bit rot from making your media useless (or
> just keep an .ISO and burn it when needed).
Did that but I intend to make the USB stick useful sometime and boot
other things from it (without having to waste an entire DVD) and I
wanna secure whatever is the common standard to booting **** off a USB
because I can NOT afford for it to **** something up midway if I'm
running a Rescue Kit from it to fix my unbootable system drive which
already refuses to be fixed with even a functioning Rescue kit.
I'm not familiar with what makes a USB bootable but I'd assume an MBR
has to be written to it like a CD, though if it was that simple then I
assume there would be a standard.
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