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Nigel Brooks
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      29th Sep 2006
Hi folks

I'm building a new computer

ASUS P5n32 sli motherboard
Intel Core Duo E6600 processor
Maxtor Sata 300 gig drive
EVGA GE Force 7950 dual GPU
2 1024 mbs of DDR2 800mhz memory
I'll also be using some of the old hardware from my other system

My question is this:

My old system was an Pentium 2.4 by Dell about 5 years old. I'd like to be
able to use my old harddrive and transfer the OS (Win XP) along with all of
the applications. Over the years I've accumulated a bunch of applications
and upgraded by downloading the updates - I just don't have all of the
original disks - although I routinely back up my boot drive with Acronis
True Image on a weekly basis.
If I use either Acronis or the Maxtor Maxblast program to transfer
everything to the new SATA drive what are the chances it will work in the
new system? I read somewhere that it might work if I transfer everything to
the new SATA - then boot up with the WINXP disk and do a repair install.

Or should I just put the WinXP Os on the new system then use something like
Aloha Bobs to transfer all of the applications from the old hard drive.

I'd appreciate any advise - thanks
--
Nigel Brooks



 
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Rod Speed
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      29th Sep 2006
Nigel Brooks <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

> I'm building a new computer


Too radical.

> ASUS P5n32 sli motherboard
> Intel Core Duo E6600 processor
> Maxtor Sata 300 gig drive
> EVGA GE Force 7950 dual GPU
> 2 1024 mbs of DDR2 800mhz memory
> I'll also be using some of the old hardware from my other system


> My question is this:


> My old system was an Pentium 2.4 by Dell about 5 years old. I'd like
> to be able to use my old harddrive and transfer the OS (Win XP) along
> with all of the applications. Over the years I've accumulated a bunch
> of applications and upgraded by downloading the updates - I just
> don't have all of the original disks - although I routinely back up
> my boot drive with Acronis True Image on a weekly basis.
> If I use either Acronis or the Maxtor Maxblast program to transfer everything to the new SATA
> drive


TI is much better for that.

> what are the chances it will work in the new system?


It wont work straight away, essentially because the chipset
has changed substantially. You will need to do a repair install
to load the drivers for the new chipset. That will work fine.

> I read somewhere that it might work if I transfer everything to the new SATA - then boot up with
> the WINXP disk and do a repair install.


Certain to work.

> Or should I just put the WinXP Os on the new system then use something like Aloha Bobs to transfer
> all of the applications from the old hard drive.


No, the repair install is a much better approach,
essentially because it keeps all the XP settings etc.

> I'd appreciate any advise - thanks



 
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johns
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      29th Sep 2006

You will get data corruption doing that, and
you will cripple the performance of your new
system. Software that old has lots of wrong
headed assumptions about memory maps,
and you will get constant errors "can't read
instruction at xxxxxxx". If you had a zip
drive in the old system, that will try to talk
to both of your SATA drives in a polling mode,
and drag them down. Get ready for some long
waits looking at your hour-glass. On a system
as quick as the one you are building, I would
plan on all new software .. written in the last
year. It is worth it, just to see that 7950 get
up and do its stuff.

johns

 
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Rod Speed
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      29th Sep 2006
johns <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> You will get data corruption doing that,


Nope.

> and you will cripple the performance of your new system.


Nope.

> Software that old has lots of wrong headed assumptions
> about memory maps, and you will get constant errors
> can't read instruction at xxxxxxx".


Nope.

> If you had a zip drive in the old system, that will try to talk to
> both of your SATA drives in a polling mode, and drag them down.


Nope.

> Get ready for some long waits looking at your hour-glass.


Nope.

> On a system as quick as the one you are building, I
> would plan on all new software .. written in the last year.


Have fun finding that with the mainstream apps.

> It is worth it, just to see that 7950 get up and do its stuff.


Waste of time, he'll have horsepower to burn.


 
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SteveH
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      29th Sep 2006
"Rod Speed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Nigel Brooks <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
>> I'm building a new computer

>
> Too radical.
>
>> ASUS P5n32 sli motherboard
>> Intel Core Duo E6600 processor
>> Maxtor Sata 300 gig drive
>> EVGA GE Force 7950 dual GPU
>> 2 1024 mbs of DDR2 800mhz memory
>> I'll also be using some of the old hardware from my other system

>
>> My question is this:

>
>> My old system was an Pentium 2.4 by Dell about 5 years old. I'd like
>> to be able to use my old harddrive and transfer the OS (Win XP) along
>> with all of the applications. Over the years I've accumulated a bunch
>> of applications and upgraded by downloading the updates - I just
>> don't have all of the original disks - although I routinely back up
>> my boot drive with Acronis True Image on a weekly basis.
>> If I use either Acronis or the Maxtor Maxblast program to transfer
>> everything to the new SATA drive

>
> TI is much better for that.
>
>> what are the chances it will work in the new system?

>
> It wont work straight away, essentially because the chipset
> has changed substantially. You will need to do a repair install
> to load the drivers for the new chipset. That will work fine.
>
>> I read somewhere that it might work if I transfer everything to the new
>> SATA - then boot up with the WINXP disk and do a repair install.

>
> Certain to work.
>
>> Or should I just put the WinXP Os on the new system then use something
>> like Aloha Bobs to transfer all of the applications from the old hard
>> drive.

>
> No, the repair install is a much better approach,
> essentially because it keeps all the XP settings etc.
>
>

Nonsense, a repair install is NOT guaranteed to work, and in this case as
the difference is so great, the o/p would do much better to do a clean
install.

SteveH


 
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Nigel Brooks
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      29th Sep 2006
"SteveH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:j_eTg.26803$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Rod Speed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Nigel Brooks <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>>
>>> I'm building a new computer

>>
>> Too radical.
>>
>>> ASUS P5n32 sli motherboard
>>> Intel Core Duo E6600 processor
>>> Maxtor Sata 300 gig drive
>>> EVGA GE Force 7950 dual GPU
>>> 2 1024 mbs of DDR2 800mhz memory
>>> I'll also be using some of the old hardware from my other system

>>
>>> My question is this:

>>
>>> My old system was an Pentium 2.4 by Dell about 5 years old. I'd like
>>> to be able to use my old harddrive and transfer the OS (Win XP) along
>>> with all of the applications. Over the years I've accumulated a bunch
>>> of applications and upgraded by downloading the updates - I just
>>> don't have all of the original disks - although I routinely back up
>>> my boot drive with Acronis True Image on a weekly basis.
>>> If I use either Acronis or the Maxtor Maxblast program to transfer
>>> everything to the new SATA drive

>>
>> TI is much better for that.
>>
>>> what are the chances it will work in the new system?

>>
>> It wont work straight away, essentially because the chipset
>> has changed substantially. You will need to do a repair install
>> to load the drivers for the new chipset. That will work fine.
>>
>>> I read somewhere that it might work if I transfer everything to the new
>>> SATA - then boot up with the WINXP disk and do a repair install.

>>
>> Certain to work.
>>
>>> Or should I just put the WinXP Os on the new system then use something
>>> like Aloha Bobs to transfer all of the applications from the old hard
>>> drive.

>>
>> No, the repair install is a much better approach,
>> essentially because it keeps all the XP settings etc.
>>
>>

> Nonsense, a repair install is NOT guaranteed to work, and in this case as
> the difference is so great, the o/p would do much better to do a clean
> install.
>
> SteveH



Well what the heck.

I'll try it with the repair install first.

I figure as long as I don't screw around with my original hard drive and
have a backup - I can always try other things.

1. Clone the original drive to the new drive and repair install
if that doesn't work
2. Do a new install of the Operating System to the new computer then try to
migrate all of the applications and settings from the old drive using Aloha
Bob's relocator


--
Nigel Brooks>


 
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SteveH
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      29th Sep 2006
"Rod Speed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> johns <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> You will get data corruption doing that,

>
> Nope.
>
>> and you will cripple the performance of your new system.

>
> Nope.
>
>> Software that old has lots of wrong headed assumptions
>> about memory maps, and you will get constant errors
>> can't read instruction at xxxxxxx".

>
> Nope.
>
>> If you had a zip drive in the old system, that will try to talk to
>> both of your SATA drives in a polling mode, and drag them down.

>
> Nope.
>
>> Get ready for some long waits looking at your hour-glass.

>
> Nope.
>
>> On a system as quick as the one you are building, I
>> would plan on all new software .. written in the last year.

>
> Have fun finding that with the mainstream apps.
>
>> It is worth it, just to see that 7950 get up and do its stuff.

>
> Waste of time, he'll have horsepower to burn.

For once, I agree with Johns. What is the point of putting together a high
spec PC of that sort and then crippling it by copying over the old registry
etc.
While you can indeed probably get it working with a repair install, it WILL
NOT work as well as a clean install.
While the o/p may have 'horsepower to burn', why waste any of that
horsepower with a bodge-up?

SteveH


 
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Rod Speed
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      29th Sep 2006
SteveH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> Rod Speed <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>> Nigel Brooks <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote


>>> I'm building a new computer


>> Too radical.


>>> ASUS P5n32 sli motherboard
>>> Intel Core Duo E6600 processor
>>> Maxtor Sata 300 gig drive
>>> EVGA GE Force 7950 dual GPU
>>> 2 1024 mbs of DDR2 800mhz memory
>>> I'll also be using some of the old hardware from my other system


>>> My question is this:


>>> My old system was an Pentium 2.4 by Dell about 5 years old. I'd like to be able to use my old
>>> harddrive and transfer the OS (Win XP) along with all of the applications. Over the years I've
>>> accumulated a bunch of applications and upgraded by downloading the updates - I just don't have
>>> all of the original disks - although I routinely back up my boot drive with Acronis True Image
>>> on a weekly basis. If I use either Acronis or the Maxtor Maxblast program to transfer everything
>>> to the new SATA drive


>> TI is much better for that.


>>> what are the chances it will work in the new system?


>> It wont work straight away, essentially because the chipset
>> has changed substantially. You will need to do a repair install
>> to load the drivers for the new chipset. That will work fine.


>>> I read somewhere that it might work if I transfer everything to the
>>> new SATA - then boot up with the WINXP disk and do a repair install.


>> Certain to work.


>>> Or should I just put the WinXP Os on the new system then use something like Aloha Bobs to
>>> transfer all of the applications from the old hard drive.


>> No, the repair install is a much better approach,
>> essentially because it keeps all the XP settings etc.


> Nonsense,


We'll see...

> a repair install is NOT guaranteed to work,


It is in when the only change is the motherboard detail.

> and in this case as the difference is so great, the o/p would do much better to do a clean
> install.


Wrong, as always. I bet there wouldnt be any different in the result whatever.

Because the repair install starts over from scratch
and just preserves the settings and apps etc.


 
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DaveW
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      29th Sep 2006
If you want to avoid endless hours of Registry errors and data
corruption-Whenever you change the motherboard that is used with a harddrive
that has a prior installation of XP installed: ALWAYS reformat the
harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS.

--
DaveW

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"Nigel Brooks" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi folks
>
> I'm building a new computer
>
> ASUS P5n32 sli motherboard
> Intel Core Duo E6600 processor
> Maxtor Sata 300 gig drive
> EVGA GE Force 7950 dual GPU
> 2 1024 mbs of DDR2 800mhz memory
> I'll also be using some of the old hardware from my other system
>
> My question is this:
>
> My old system was an Pentium 2.4 by Dell about 5 years old. I'd like to
> be able to use my old harddrive and transfer the OS (Win XP) along with
> all of the applications. Over the years I've accumulated a bunch of
> applications and upgraded by downloading the updates - I just don't have
> all of the original disks - although I routinely back up my boot drive
> with Acronis True Image on a weekly basis.
> If I use either Acronis or the Maxtor Maxblast program to transfer
> everything to the new SATA drive what are the chances it will work in the
> new system? I read somewhere that it might work if I transfer everything
> to the new SATA - then boot up with the WINXP disk and do a repair
> install.
>
> Or should I just put the WinXP Os on the new system then use something
> like Aloha Bobs to transfer all of the applications from the old hard
> drive.
>
> I'd appreciate any advise - thanks
> --
> Nigel Brooks
>
>
>



 
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Rod Speed
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      29th Sep 2006
Nigel Brooks <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> SteveH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>> Rod Speed <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>>> Nigel Brooks <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote


>>>> I'm building a new computer


>>> Too radical.


>>>> ASUS P5n32 sli motherboard
>>>> Intel Core Duo E6600 processor
>>>> Maxtor Sata 300 gig drive
>>>> EVGA GE Force 7950 dual GPU
>>>> 2 1024 mbs of DDR2 800mhz memory
>>>> I'll also be using some of the old hardware from my other system


>>>> My question is this:


>>>> My old system was an Pentium 2.4 by Dell about 5 years old. I'd like to be able to use my old
>>>> harddrive and transfer the OS (Win XP) along with all of the applications. Over the years I've
>>>> accumulated a bunch of applications and upgraded by downloading the updates - I just don't have
>>>> all of the original disks - although I routinely back up my boot drive with Acronis True Image
>>>> on a weekly basis. If I use either Acronis or the Maxtor Maxblast program to transfer
>>>> everything to the new SATA drive


>>> TI is much better for that.


>>>> what are the chances it will work in the new system?


>>> It wont work straight away, essentially because the chipset
>>> has changed substantially. You will need to do a repair install
>>> to load the drivers for the new chipset. That will work fine.


>>>> I read somewhere that it might work if I transfer everything to the new SATA - then boot up
>>>> with the WINXP disk and do a repair install.


>>> Certain to work.


>>>> Or should I just put the WinXP Os on the new system then use something like Aloha Bobs to
>>>> transfer all of the applications from the old hard drive.


>>> No, the repair install is a much better approach,
>>> essentially because it keeps all the XP settings etc.


>> Nonsense, a repair install is NOT guaranteed to work, and in this case as the difference is so
>> great, the o/p would do much better to do a clean install.


> Well what the heck.


> I'll try it with the repair install first.


> I figure as long as I don't screw around with my original hard drive and have a backup - I can
> always try other things.


Yeah, and with that collection of hardware you
can even rigorously test Steve's claim too.

Do a clean install of XP on the new drive
and use Aloha Bobs to get the apps across.

Then do the clone and the repair install and see
how well that works compared with the clean install.

Bet you keep the clone/repair install.

> 1. Clone the original drive to the new drive and repair install if that doesn't work
> 2. Do a new install of the Operating System to the new computer then try to migrate all of the
> applications and settings from the old drive using Aloha Bob's relocator



 
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