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      21st Oct 2006
Hi could somebody please help

I want to be able to create a server from an old pc that will allow me to
backup files and backup entire hard drives from other pc's on my network ,
idealy i want at least 1TB of space. the problems I am having is that i have
no idea where to begin, i have built pc's before but never servers, could
somebody give me a full guide on what to do from the hardware to the
operating system and how to connect it to my network.

Please help

Joe

 
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      21st Oct 2006
JReeder wrote:
> I want to be able to create a server from an old pc that will allow
> me to backup files and backup entire hard drives from other pc's on
> my network , idealy i want at least 1TB of space. the problems I
> am having is that i have no idea where to begin, i have built pc's
> before but never servers, could somebody give me a full guide on
> what to do from the hardware to the operating system and how to
> connect it to my network.


Just like your PC - more space, perhaps (but not necessarily - depending on
your needs) a different OS (a server OS vs a workstation OS.)

That's it. If you plan on having 5 or less users - even Windows XP Home
would do as an OS as long as the hardware can handle the larger hard disk
drives.

Or - make it easy on yourself and get a network attached storage - like the
Netgear/Linksys/Ximeta/Buffalo Tech devices that are basically just a lot of
space attached to your network.

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      21st Oct 2006
Some just in time, just for you reading.

http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=2817 Make sure you check out
part 2.

http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=2859

Good Luck

"JReeder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:567C03F6-7D66-4C8A-BF26-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi could somebody please help
>
> I want to be able to create a server from an old pc that will allow me to
> backup files and backup entire hard drives from other pc's on my network ,
> idealy i want at least 1TB of space. the problems I am having is that i
> have
> no idea where to begin, i have built pc's before but never servers, could
> somebody give me a full guide on what to do from the hardware to the
> operating system and how to connect it to my network.
>
> Please help
>
> Joe
>



 
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"JReeder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:567C03F6-7D66-4C8A-BF26-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi could somebody please help
>
> I want to be able to create a server from an old pc that will allow me to
> backup files and backup entire hard drives from other pc's on my network ,
> idealy i want at least 1TB of space. the problems I am having is that i
> have
> no idea where to begin, i have built pc's before but never servers, could
> somebody give me a full guide on what to do from the hardware to the
> operating system and how to connect it to my network.
>
> Please help
>
> Joe


First thing to do is figure out whether your old PC is up to the task,
starting with supporting a terabyte of drive space. If it isn't, consider
that a machine that *is* capable of this isn't that expensive now.

HTH
-pk


 
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      21st Oct 2006
Thing is , if i was to build one , and install server 2003 would i also have
to install server 2003 on the client machines?

"Patrick Keenan" wrote:

> "JReeder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:567C03F6-7D66-4C8A-BF26-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi could somebody please help
> >
> > I want to be able to create a server from an old pc that will allow me to
> > backup files and backup entire hard drives from other pc's on my network ,
> > idealy i want at least 1TB of space. the problems I am having is that i
> > have
> > no idea where to begin, i have built pc's before but never servers, could
> > somebody give me a full guide on what to do from the hardware to the
> > operating system and how to connect it to my network.
> >
> > Please help
> >
> > Joe

>
> First thing to do is figure out whether your old PC is up to the task,
> starting with supporting a terabyte of drive space. If it isn't, consider
> that a machine that *is* capable of this isn't that expensive now.
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
>
>

 
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"JReeder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thing is , if i was to build one , and install server 2003 would i also
> have
> to install server 2003 on the client machines?
>


Install a Server Operating System on all Servers.
e.g. Win NT Server, Win 2000 Server, Win 2003 Server.
Install a Workstation Operating System on all Workstations.
e.g. Win NT Workstation, Win 2000 Workstation, Win XP Pro(Workstation).
Steve


 
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      21st Oct 2006
finally whats the best way to connect the server , wired or wireless?


"Og" wrote:

> "JReeder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:A169586A-7412-4015-AE9B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thing is , if i was to build one , and install server 2003 would i also
> > have
> > to install server 2003 on the client machines?
> >

>
> Install a Server Operating System on all Servers.
> e.g. Win NT Server, Win 2000 Server, Win 2003 Server.
> Install a Workstation Operating System on all Workstations.
> e.g. Win NT Workstation, Win 2000 Workstation, Win XP Pro(Workstation).
> Steve
>
>
>

 
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      21st Oct 2006
JReeder wrote:

> finally whats the best way to connect the server , wired or wireless?
>
>
> "Og" wrote:
>
>> "JReeder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:A169586A-7412-4015-AE9B-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Thing is , if i was to build one , and install server 2003 would i
>> > also have
>> > to install server 2003 on the client machines?
>> >

>>
>> Install a Server Operating System on all Servers.
>> e.g. Win NT Server, Win 2000 Server, Win 2003 Server.
>> Install a Workstation Operating System on all Workstations.
>> e.g. Win NT Workstation, Win 2000 Workstation, Win XP
>> Pro(Workstation).


To answer your question, you would connect the server machine to the
network via ethernet and give it a static IP. If all it is doing is
file serving and storage, you don't need a MS server OS - you could
install Linux. However, you're going to an awful lot of trouble for
just a file server/back up storage. Why not look into an NAS instead?
Prices have come down amazingly.

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Shenan Stanley
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      21st Oct 2006
JReeder wrote:
> I want to be able to create a server from an old pc that will allow
> me to backup files and backup entire hard drives from other pc's on
> my network , ideally I want at least 1TB of space. the problems I
> am having is that I have no idea where to begin, I have built pc's
> before but never servers, could somebody give me a full guide on
> what to do from the hardware to the operating system and how to
> connect it to my network.


Shenan wrote:
> Just like your PC - more space, perhaps (but not necessarily -
> depending on your needs) a different OS (a server OS vs. a
> workstation OS.)
>
> That's it. If you plan on having 5 or less users - even Windows XP
> Home would do as an OS as long as the hardware can handle the
> larger hard disk drives.
>
> Or - make it easy on yourself and get a network attached storage -
> like the Netgear/Linksys/Ximeta/Buffalo Tech devices that are
> basically just a lot of space attached to your network.


JReeder wrote:
> finally what's the best way to connect the server , wired or
> wireless?


Malke wrote:
> To answer your question, you would connect the server machine to the
> network via Ethernet and give it a static IP. If all it is doing is
> file serving and storage, you don't need a MS server OS - you could
> install Linux. However, you're going to an awful lot of trouble for
> just a file server/back up storage. Why not look into an NAS
> instead? Prices have come down amazingly.


As I inferred before in this thread....
You left out a lot of vital information.

- What is this network/workgroup/domain setup for?
- Why/What are you using this server for?
- How many computers(workstations) are we talking here?
- Do you want features like roaming profiles/centralized user
management/etc - or just a simple file/print server?
- What types of files are we talking about here?

The fact is - again - that if all you want is a simple file/print server for
5 or less machines - Windows XP Home could do this for you.
If you have 10 or less machines - XP Professional could do the simple
file/print server thing for you too.
Linux would not have the user limitation and could easily do the file server
thing.
Any NAS box (like I mentioned before) would be a great file server - and
many are print servers as well.
Examples:
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/...?categoryid=10

http://netgear.com/Products/Storage.aspx

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...VisitorWrapper
(Bottom)

http://www.ximeta.com/web/products/index.php

As for wired/wireless?
Depends on what type of wireless and the answer to all the questions
above...
The larger the files and more heavily used the network - the more I would
push you towards wired networking.
But you probably should still have a wireless component in there for
convenience - just not necessarily for heavier usage.

Help us help you - read through and answer the above questions in this
thread. If you truly don't want to waste your time and effort and possibly
money - this is your chance to ask people who have probably setup/used
things like this before you dive in.

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