ok, I need to clear up one point here ... I don't want BT telephone, I just want the Broadband, however, you cannot negotiate one without the other ... its a "con" charge.
The same seems to go for ALL the others that are not cable, I loved cable, I can't get it here.
I know that some, include the line rental, and, like Virgin, have their own "lines", but I still can't seem to find anything on par to BT, in cost ... despite the stupid, never had before, min call fee, of which, I'm not going to pay.
I'm looking for unlimited Broadband, I don't need the phone, but if it comes as a free addition, what the heck, fine.
I am seriously looking, and reading the very small print, some, including BT, hide a lot of the actual cost behind these "special" offers.
I phoned,
or tried to phone, for some clarification, Virgin, using their 0845 number, and, after numerous punching in numbers was told to phone another 0845 number, where I was then asked to press 1 on my Virgin phone ... huh!

the mind boggles.